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  • Phobia
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    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #271
    Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

    Originally posted by CM
    It also appears that 80 is the lowest rating the game will hand out to a generated rookie at WR
    While CM's data has shown the old system is still in play for the creation of ratings of rookies, I'm honestly more concerned with this line from his first post. I hope you are not referring to the "overall" rating here because if so there is some issues.

    WHY is it that WR's will never be rated lower than 80?? This seems flat out poor design if this is true. So basically you can never bust on a WR draft pick? I'm afraid to see what the lowest rating is at other positions.

    CM if you can clear this up, were you talking about the speed rating or overall rating?

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    • NDAlum
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      • Jun 2010
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      #272
      Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

      Originally posted by Phobia
      While CM's data has shown the old system is still in play for the creation of ratings of rookies, I'm honestly more concerned with this line from his first post. I hope you are not referring to the "overall" rating here because if so there is some issues.

      WHY is it that WR's will never be rated lower than 80?? This seems flat out poor design if this is true. So basically you can never bust on a WR draft pick? I'm afraid to see what the lowest rating is at other positions.

      CM if you can clear this up, were you talking about the speed rating or overall rating?
      He was saying that no WR will have SPD/ACC/AGI under 80.
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      • Phobia
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        • Jan 2008
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        #273
        Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

        Originally posted by NDAlum
        He was saying that no WR will have SPD/ACC/AGI under 80.
        I'm not saying you are wrong ND, but why in this post does he show 3 players at a 77 speed in year 2035? Degradation?
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        Last edited by Phobia; 08-25-2015, 03:45 PM.

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        • Hooe
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          • Aug 2002
          • 21555

          #274
          Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

          Originally posted by Phobia
          CM if you can clear this up, were you talking about the speed rating or overall rating?
          The Acceleration rating appears to floor out at 80 for WRs. Definitely not talking about OVR.

          The OVR ratings were all over the place and more reasonably distributed, that primarily driven by the AWR rating I believe (also the expected things like CTH, CIT, RRT, and SPC).
          Last edited by Hooe; 08-25-2015, 04:39 PM. Reason: went back and double-checked, confirmed

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          • Phobia
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            • Jan 2008
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            #275
            Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

            Originally posted by CM Hooe
            The Acceleration rating appears to floor out at 80 for WRs. Definitely not talking about OVR.

            The OVR ratings were all over the place and more reasonably distributed, that primarily driven by the AWR rating I believe (also the expected things like CTH, CIT, RRT, and SPC).
            Good to know,

            I wish we could get a detailed take into certain ratings and what they truly effect. Reason I say that, we can discuss the ramifications of these rating issues but without knowing just how they work its kind of like shooting in the dark.

            Now obviously speed is not vague in what it does but awareness is very vague at what it truly does. Lineman footwork is another, sure it sounds like its easy to know what it does but can you truly see a difference between a 99 RBF compared to a 50 RBF? How about strength vs block strength or agility vs elusiveness?

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            • Hooe
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              • Aug 2002
              • 21555

              #276
              Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

              Originally posted by Phobia
              Good to know,

              I wish we could get a detailed take into certain ratings and what they truly effect. Reason I say that, we can discuss the ramifications of these rating issues but without knowing just how they work its kind of like shooting in the dark.

              Now obviously speed is not vague in what it does but awareness is very vague at what it truly does. Lineman footwork is another, sure it sounds like its easy to know what it does but can you truly see a difference between a 99 RBF compared to a 50 RBF? How about strength vs block strength or agility vs elusiveness?
              I realize this is a bit off-subject from the point of your post, but players in Madden NFL 16 are no longer given ratings for Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, and Pass Block Footwork. Those ratings are completely absent from the game now and, though present, had no function in Madden NFL 15.

              More on-topic, it's my impression the reason that we are not explicitly told everything the ratings do is to encourage us to play the game, figure it out ourselves, and build our teams based upon our own experiences.

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              • DCEBB2001
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                • Nov 2008
                • 2569

                #277
                Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                Originally posted by CM Hooe
                I realize this is a bit off-subject from the point of your post, but players in Madden NFL 16 are no longer given ratings for Run Block Strength, Run Block Footwork, Pass Block Strength, and Pass Block Footwork. Those ratings are completely absent from the game now and, though present, had no function in Madden NFL 15.

                More on-topic, it's my impression the reason that we are not explicitly told everything the ratings do is to encourage us to play the game, figure it out ourselves, and build our teams based upon our own experiences.
                I thought it was confirmed that those 4 blocking attributes were still in the game. Someone said they were in the fbg roster thread. Do you know otherwise.
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                • Hooe
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                  • Aug 2002
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                  #278
                  Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                  Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                  I thought it was confirmed that those 4 blocking attributes were still in the game. Someone said they were in the fbg roster thread. Do you know otherwise.
                  After some investigation, I found these ratings only in the Player Edit screen. They aren't in the front-end View Roster screen, and they have never been included in Connected Franchise.

                  The devs have said repeatedly these ratings no longer have any in-game function, however.

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                  • DCEBB2001
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                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2569

                    #279
                    Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                    Originally posted by CM Hooe
                    After some investigation, I found these ratings only in the Player Edit screen. They aren't in the front-end View Roster screen, and they have never been included in Connected Franchise.

                    The devs have said repeatedly these ratings no longer have any in-game function, however.
                    Ah, that clears it up then. Thank you!
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                    • Allball76
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 512

                      #280
                      Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                      Best madden yet Gameplay wise , But Man there so Many Bugs they have to patch, i hope this one hear is important to them ! The Gameplay also plays great because the lower Speed Ratings and Deep acc Ratings ! So This is very very important to CFM Play !

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                      • Robo COP
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 911

                        #281
                        Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                        Originally posted by CM Hooe
                        After some investigation, I found these ratings only in the Player Edit screen. They aren't in the front-end View Roster screen, and they have never been included in Connected Franchise.

                        The devs have said repeatedly these ratings no longer have any in-game function, however.
                        Oh wow, I never knew this. Kind of glad they did away with it tbh. Attributes were/are getting pretty cluttered.

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                        • Allball76
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 512

                          #282
                          Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                          I listen to this and thats why im scared so many bugs and Kolbe nor shop master mention Rookie classes



                          Last night, Kolbe called into Game Changers Radio, and advised everyone to wait until the upcoming patch to start their CFMs. More info available

                          http://www.blogtalkradio.com/easgcra...st-impressions

                          He talks about waiting specifically around the 13:00 minute mark.

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                          • Robo COP
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                            • Feb 2012
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                            #283
                            Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                            Originally posted by Allball76
                            I listen to this and thats why im scared so many bugs and Kolbe nor shop master mention Rookie classes



                            Last night, Kolbe called into Game Changers Radio, and advised everyone to wait until the upcoming patch to start their CFMs. More info available

                            http://www.blogtalkradio.com/easgcra...st-impressions

                            He talks about waiting specifically around the 13:00 minute mark.
                            ?

                            At about 13:50ish he mentions one of the reasons to hold off on starting a CFM is because they can't retroactively fix rookie classes on franchises that have already been started. So in other words if you start a franchise before the patch, then the rookie class that was already generated for you can't be fixed.

                            So he is saying wait until the patch comes to start your CFM if you want to have fixed rookie classes

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                            • Mike Lowe
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                              • Dec 2006
                              • 5291

                              #284
                              Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                              Has anyone tested this in offline franchise to see if it still exists?

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                              • redsox4evur
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                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #285
                                Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

                                Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                                Has anyone tested this in offline franchise to see if it still exists?
                                Yes it does...EA is working on a patch for it as I post this.
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