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  • Buckeyebrown
    Banned
    • May 2015
    • 59

    #226
    Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

    Originally posted by crenk
    That's the thing with this game at this point. They try to do something and it just isn't fleshed out or it causes other issues. So now we either have to go edit every existing qb/db/wr or c.f. is unplayable. What are the chances they can recode all rookie ratings? Is that faithful thinking?
    Connected franchise will be unplayable for the "sim" players is what I think you meant to say.

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    • toast49
      Banned
      • Jul 2013
      • 43

      #227
      Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

      Hopefully they will patch this issue before or with the official roster update when most online leagues start their games.

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      • Instant C1a55ic
        2022 Clark Cup Champions!
        • Mar 2007
        • 2959

        #228
        Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

        Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
        Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have notified QA and the CFM team and they are looking into it. I will report back when I have an update for you.
        Thanks Rex. I know this was posted days ago, but this issue is holding me up from buying. I can deal with the equipment issues and the only other issue is the in game progression and from I have read in other threads thats getting fixed as well.

        To me, this is a big mode killer, and like many of you other guys/gals I am strictly an offline CFM guy. I have enough issues already with dealing with the new aggressive catch resulting in one handed super grabs, I dont need a guy with a cannon killing me on the long ball with precision accuracy.

        I beg and plead for this to be fixed, and thats a lot coming from me. I would normally call this game dead due to EA's track record of letting stuff go (My last Madden is when the teams wouldnt release the F potential players and you had to manually release them in order for them to sign better players, and when punters would sub in as a G or T) I am actually enjoying the game this year, I wish I had more than 10 hours to play. Its beautiful, the animations are spot on (except for the over abundance of one handed catches, I have seen 4 total in 2 games ) and overall I am actually enjoying myself. Fix this issue, and I am a day one buyer!
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        • Stridah
          Banned
          • Aug 2015
          • 33

          #229
          Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

          I keep hearing good things, but keep reading about cfm mate, because it appears there is a regression bug for ol and qb's also. So CFM has a bit of work to be "sim playable." I really hope it is fixed this development cycle as i really want my football fix.

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          • BleedGreen710
            Eagles Fan
            • Oct 2012
            • 4025

            #230
            Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

            yeah this is an issue. on my CFM I wanted to draft a QB. i checked all the guys I scouted. theres this dude projected 4th round who ran a 4.4 and lead all QBs in bench press. an athletic freak. I drafted him 3rd round to find he has better throwing then basically every QB in the game. im happy to have a new QB to build around but damn.. it feels unfair...

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            • Instant C1a55ic
              2022 Clark Cup Champions!
              • Mar 2007
              • 2959

              #231
              Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

              Originally posted by BleedGreen710
              yeah this is an issue. on my CFM I wanted to draft a QB. i checked all the guys I scouted. theres this dude projected 4th round who ran a 4.4 and lead all QBs in bench press. an athletic freak. I drafted him 3rd round to find he has better throwing then basically every QB in the game. im happy to have a new QB to build around but damn.. it feels unfair...
              I hate to say it but Tom Brady?

              I like the new scouting feature, I picked up a very decent C in the 4th round as he had 1st round talent, fell in the draft because of his combine. Hes not a stud by any means, but at a 75ovr where my current center is a 68 is a great improvement for me.

              Aside from a positive note, I really hope the now progression issue gets fixed as well. I didnt notice it until it was pointed out in the other thread. I fired up my CFM and yup, Ryan Clady was now a 78ovr and thats down from 82 a year before.

              These issues are really bumming me out. I just tried to play college and I couldnt, i wanted to boot up madden and honestly, that hasnt happened to me since I bought college in its final year. EA hooked me this year, but I cant bow down unless these issues are fixed.
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              • BleedGreen710
                Eagles Fan
                • Oct 2012
                • 4025

                #232
                Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                Originally posted by Instant C1a55ic
                I hate to say it but Tom Brady?
                uhhh i dont think tom brady ran a 4.4 and lead all QBs in bench press? the dudes got 90+ speed and agility/acceleration and the best arm in the league. as a 4th rounder. tom brady is great but comparing the 2 seems like a pretty big stretch to me.

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                • Instant C1a55ic
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2959

                  #233
                  Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                  Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                  uhhh i dont think tom brady ran a 4.4 and lead all QBs in bench press? the dudes got 90+ speed and agility/acceleration and the best arm in the league. as a 4th rounder. tom brady is great but comparing the 2 seems like a pretty big stretch to me.

                  HAHA sorry, I meant the situation you are in. Guys a stud and you took him late and well....Brady is ok at least
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                  • ChiefsFan93
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 5

                    #234
                    Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                    2 things cross my mind as far as the speed ratings and generated stuff

                    1. Maybe the range for generated speed is high for players coming out because speed doesnt seem to progress naturally year to year unless you influence it with xp and when players near 30 or so speed will go down so they wanna make sure players coming in will help supplement this even though there may be a few too many. Plus it may also be in a effort to eliminate ppl saying theres no fast talent readily available and speed cost way too much xp to progress so they are trying to nip that complaint in the bud.

                    2. These players coming out with these ratings.....whether its the DAC or SPD just remember someone saying alot of their overalls were in the 70s. So they wont be like that crazy first rounder qb starting over flacco in his rookie year most of them will float in the bottom half of the depth chart so you dont have to worry about them starting immediately.

                    Just a thought. Im not worried thats my position

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                    • no1xdraftpck
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 40

                      #235
                      Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                      What if you just adjust the base rosters you are using, increase speed and DAC in the guys you think appropriate that way rookies coming in wouldn't be so far apart.

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                      • Birdman18
                        Flyin' High
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 59

                        #236
                        Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                        Originally posted by no1xdraftpck
                        What if you just adjust the base rosters you are using, increase speed and DAC in the guys you think appropriate that way rookies coming in wouldn't be so far apart.

                        Unfortunately until the draft classes are fixed, this is the best option


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                        • oneamongthefence
                          Nothing to see here folks
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5683

                          #237
                          Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                          Could you also look at strength for DTs? They were pretty low in the draft classes compared to the base rosters last year.

                          Also it might also be worth looking into the average overall rating for players that far ahead to see if they're inline with the base roster. If speed is up and deep accuracy is up but the overall ratings are still close to the base roster that would alleviate some concerns I would think since these players would have deficiencies in other areas.

                          Also I would like to say players are getting faster every year as the NFL gets more wide open. I would guess that on a linear graph the average speed for players in the NFL is on a constant upswing at most if not all positions.

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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21555

                            #238
                            Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                            Originally posted by oneamongthefence
                            Could you also look at strength for DTs? They were pretty low in the draft classes compared to the base rosters last year.

                            Also it might also be worth looking into the average overall rating for players that far ahead to see if they're inline with the base roster. If speed is up and deep accuracy is up but the overall ratings are still close to the base roster that would alleviate some concerns I would think since these players would have deficiencies in other areas.

                            Also I would like to say players are getting faster every year as the NFL gets more wide open. I would guess that on a linear graph the average speed for players in the NFL is on a constant upswing at most if not all positions.

                            This is not a test.

                            Looking at OVR rating in CFM is going to be next to worthless, to be honest. Each team within CFM calculates OVR ratings for players per-position differently based on schemes, that OVR is influenced by a production rating, and the default OVR calculation from the front-end doesn't match any within CFM.

                            I can look at DT STR next chance I get, though, absolutely.

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                            • Syncmastr
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 0

                              #239
                              Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                              Why do so many people on these forums focus on a players overall when it is one of the most pointless stats?

                              -You can change you scheme and your players overalls will change

                              -You can bump awareness up to the high 90s, and even though it will not affect your player on the field at all, it will bring their overall up faster than any other attribute.

                              -A player can be a pretty high overall and still be useless. Think about all those WRs who regressed last year, does it matter what their overall or other stats were when they had 50 speed? The same goes for those 70 overall rookies, they can be the best players in the game with the right stats.

                              EDIT: Looks like CM Hooe beat me to the punch, but I will say one more thing. Anyone who is a good CFM player will not even acknowledge a players overall most of the time. The few that do, always end up falling behind anytime they make a trade or draft a player. It's a very bad habit to have if you are in a serious online CFM.
                              Last edited by Syncmastr; 08-23-2015, 02:13 AM.
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                              • no1xdraftpck
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 40

                                #240
                                Re: CFM Rookies Not Adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                                Don't think the issue was concerning overall... more along the lines of individual attributes. I myself don't hold much value on the actual number of the overall however, I do look at the individual attributes when evaluating a player.

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