CFM Rookies Not Adjusted To Stock Player Scale (EA Is Investigating)

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  • zackebarsch10
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 178

    #76
    Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

    Originally posted by khaliib
    Man, folks see the ratings every year and fly off the deep end if it a certain rating doesn't measure up "visual wise" to their expectation, the game is labeled broke!!! lol



    The game is not even out yet, and folks are screaming for a "patch" based off of what they "visually" seen in a video or screenshot.



    The fact is, if/when something is tinkered with in Madden, another area is "always" affected and usually in a negative way.



    There are a lot of CFM variables that "will" affect generated player ratings that are not being considered in the discussion...

    -Scheme will alter those ratings

    -Confidence will alter those ratings

    -Goals will alter those ratings

    -Those ratings will be altered by "Stamina" rating/settings during gameplay.



    Folks are locked in on the "Speed" rating, esp for WR, when "Route Running" determines how much separation the WR will have, not "Speed".



    -I believe the WR in the pic the WR had a "58" Route Run and a low Release.

    Those are the ratings that matter for a WR.

    That WR will be lucky to get open with such a low Route Run.



    As far as the "DAC", an 80 vs 67.



    Do we really believe that Madden has been programmed so that such a small disparity will be evident in throw accuracy?

    Come on now!!!



    The fix is simple for those that this bothers!!!

    Role up your sleeves and bump up your default roster to the levels you desire.

    Problem solved!!!



    But to entice the Dev's to go in alter without putting in the time to test for "negative" impacts in other areas, is asking for trouble.



    I'm just saying, let's wait and get the game in our hands and see what the community can/will do first, before we throw out "Broke" and "Patch"!!!



    Been down this road many times, and we ended up with more/greater problems.


    It's not only about gameplay with these ratings. Simmed stats could (and should) be affected as well.
    As we are here it's pure speculating.
    But always good to know the Devs are listening. Whether they see a problem in this or not (think about the 'in their eyes' non-existent sack issue from last year) is another question itself.


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    • mrprice33
      Just some guy
      • Jul 2003
      • 5986

      #77
      Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

      If they have already acknowledged it and are looking into it, it's obviously not supposed to work that way, so I'd say they think it's an issue, which makes it an issue.

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      • Sheba2011
        MVP
        • Oct 2013
        • 2353

        #78
        Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

        Originally posted by mrprice33
        If they have already acknowledged it and are looking into it, it's obviously not supposed to work that way, so I'd say they think it's an issue, which makes it an issue.
        Not entirely, they haven't really acknowledged anything other than they will look into it. Them looking into it means nothing one way or the other, it means just what it says, they will have their team test it out and see if they can replicate it.

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        • mrprice33
          Just some guy
          • Jul 2003
          • 5986

          #79
          Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

          Originally posted by Sheba2011
          Not entirely, they haven't really acknowledged anything other than they will look into it. Them looking into it means nothing one way or the other, it means just what it says, they will have their team test it out and see if they can replicate it.
          If it was designed that way there'd be no need to look into it.

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          • kingkid1313
            Rookie
            • Aug 2006
            • 133

            #80
            Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

            We all know that scheme and such affects player ratings, but we're talking about physical ratings of rookies.. Speed, Acc, etc.. Look at this roookie QB has 92 speed, 88 acc, 92 THP, 86 short, 84 Med, 73 Deep. There is no stock QB in Madden with these physical attributes so incoming rookies shouldn't have them either.

            Rookie scale is not adjusted to current player scale ratings..It's just that simple.
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            • T5063
              Pro
              • Oct 2010
              • 802

              #81
              Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

              Originally posted by kingkid1313
              We all know that scheme and such affects player ratings, but we're talking about physical ratings of rookies.. Speed, Acc, etc.. Look at this roookie QB has 92 speed, 88 acc, 92 THP, 86 short, 84 Med, 73 Deep. There is no stock QB in Madden with these physical attributes so incoming rookies shouldn't have them either.

              Rookie scale is not adjusted to current player scale ratings..It's just that simple.
              Plus is it just me or does that face pic not look like someone who is 6'3 and 217lb. He looks like a 250lbs+ lineman.

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              • howboutdat
                MVP
                • Nov 2012
                • 1908

                #82
                Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                Originally posted by kingkid1313

                Rookie scale is not adjusted to current player scale ratings..It's just that simple.
                Yeah i dont understand the denial of this.Its simple , easy to see.
                That is the issue, they forgot to tune the drafts down along to match the stock rosters.
                Yup, i said it !



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                • EricFreakingBerry
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 382

                  #83
                  Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                  Originally posted by T5063
                  Plus is it just me or does that face pic not look like someone who is 6'3 and 217lb. He looks like a 250lbs+ lineman.
                  They don't scale that stuff and that probably won't change anytime soon. It's just randomly finding a picture upon generation and probably with very little definition around what the height/weight of the player is. I agree it's a bit distracting, but it's purely cosmetic and I would prefer they spend their time working on the ratings/direct impact to gameplay elements of the rookies.

                  It's clear there's an issue there. What's not clear yet is if it will be adjusted/fixed ever. Time will tell.

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                  • DeuceDouglas
                    Madden Dev Team
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4297

                    #84
                    Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                    Originally posted by kingkid1313
                    We all know that scheme and such affects player ratings, but we're talking about physical ratings of rookies.. Speed, Acc, etc.. Look at this roookie QB has 92 speed, 88 acc, 92 THP, 86 short, 84 Med, 73 Deep. There is no stock QB in Madden with these physical attributes so incoming rookies shouldn't have them either.

                    Rookie scale is not adjusted to current player scale ratings..It's just that simple.
                    Mariota is really close. That QB would immediately become the fastest QB in the game though. But I don't know, I'd have to see several classes laid out to see how far off they really are. I agree that this should be a concern but I'm not personally too worried about it yet.

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                    • KiiNG_rekt
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 67

                      #85
                      Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale




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                      • neume1mb
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 98

                        #86
                        Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                        How the hell do they have to "look into" this? No one at your huge company caught this?

                        Hire me to beta test, I'll catch every bug for you. Pay me in beer.

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                        • Sheba2011
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2353

                          #87
                          Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                          Originally posted by howboutdat
                          Yeah i dont understand the denial of this.Its simple , easy to see.
                          That is the issue, they forgot to tune the drafts down along to match the stock rosters.
                          No one is denying anything we are just asking for more in depth testing. One or two draft classes isn't enough to make an accurate judgement one way or the other.

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                          • lowndsy
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 313

                            #88
                            Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                            Are they random drafts or set drafts this year! Set drafts would be easy to change surely for a day 1 fix? Random draft may be a bit longer but I guess I will not complete season and complete draft until patch is in.
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                            • XtremeDunkz
                              CNFL Commissioner
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3414

                              #89
                              Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                              I feel like QA should be filled with just people like us. How do things like this get missed every single year. Now they have to waste time patching something that never should have happened.

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                              • howboutdat
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 1908

                                #90
                                Re: CFM rookies not adjusted to Stock Player Scale

                                Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                                I feel like QA should be filled with just people like us.

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                                This times 10 . Ive been saying it for years. We can help and would love to help. Not trying to bash them, trying to help them.
                                Yup, i said it !



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