Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

[Badguy1985]

Re: Madden 2016 team specific playbooks / everything playbooks

Well I still can't upload after the patch. I'm about to give up as its pointless for me if I can't share to download with my other profile as I can only have the CPU with the updated playbooks while I'm stuck with generic. Pretty frustrating. With nba2k coming out of return this thing if I wasn't an impatient idiot and downloaded digital copy! Ugh! Maybe I'll try later but for me it's pointless to go any further without ability to use the playbooks or share with you guys. Sorry!

I feel pretty much the same. I've tried to post my Lions and Packers for over a week. I've pretty much stopped working on the Vikings, because it's a lot of work and I can't share it. I know there's no way I'll ever get 32 done on my own so it's not a cfm possibility for me to use without a lot of help.

I'm thinking about doing a few kind of generic books to use in cfm. Something to sort of represent the different styles but vaguely enough that I can apply it to multiple teams.

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[SwaggerCoach]

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One thing we could do is host the files online for download, throw them onto a usb, and then download to the system.

Should be a viable way to share. I'll look into it tomorrow.


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[SwaggerCoach]

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Also - stupid question but: for the inside the 5 situation, is that the offensive team's 5 or the defensive teams 5?


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[Badguy1985]

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Also - stupid question but: for the inside the 5 situation, is that the offensive team's 5 or the defensive teams 5?


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The offense's. Though that's one of my assumptions which have been known to be wrong on occasion. But they have the goal line situation for offense, and the inside the 5 is all quick runs and Max Pro shot plays which makes sense.

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[vannwolfhawk]

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The offense's. Though that's one of my assumptions which have been known to be wrong on occasion. But they have the goal line situation for offense, and the inside the 5 is all quick runs and Max Pro shot plays which makes sense.

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Interesting and your probably right as I was thinking it was like goaline! Uh oh! Lol

And great idea swagger! Let me know as that might save this game for me... It's just so frustrating to not be able to upload so I can't even use my playbooks or share with you guys.

[vannwolfhawk]

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I feel pretty much the same. I've tried to post my Lions and Packers for over a week. I've pretty much stopped working on the Vikings, because it's a lot of work and I can't share it. I know there's no way I'll ever get 32 done on my own so it's not a cfm possibility for me to use without a lot of help.

I'm thinking about doing a few kind of generic books to use in cfm. Something to sort of represent the different styles but vaguely enough that I can apply it to multiple teams.

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The thing is if you can't upload you can't download with other profile. So you can never have a user and CPU with both their custom playbooks in cfm. Your always stuck as the user with the stock playbooks.

[Badguy1985]

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The thing is if you can't upload you can't download with other profile. So you can never have a user and CPU with both their custom playbooks in cfm. Your always stuck as the user with the stock playbooks.

I have actually been able to download so far with a different profile. Someone in another thread theorized that this problem has to do with origin accounts limiting downloads which seems to make sense because everybody I've heard of was able to download at least once before it stopped working. Today I downloaded a roster on the other account and kept it active while switching profiles to get it on my main account. Don't know how you'd do this for a playbook though, because books are not really active except when you're editing and you can't change accounts from that screen.

Anyways, this is besides the point, because I'm OK with using a default PB. The major draw in this for me is getting the CPU to make better playcalls. I'm fine with the ones I make.

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[vannwolfhawk]

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I have actually been able to download so far with a different profile. Someone in another thread theorized that this problem has to do with origin accounts limiting downloads which seems to make sense because everybody I've heard of was able to download at least once before it stopped working. Today I downloaded a roster on the other account and kept it active while switching profiles to get it on my main account. Don't know how you'd do this for a playbook though, because books are not really active except when you're editing and you can't change accounts from that screen.

Anyways, this is besides the point, because I'm OK with using a default PB. The major draw in this for me is getting the CPU to make better playcalls. I'm fine with the ones I make.

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Ya I have no problems downloading files. I have downloaded all the ones in this thread on xbox1. But no offense to anyone here I have gone way into detail in every formation and specific situation. I've never used game plan before but when I did my playbook I've been able to as I know every play in a situation is a play I'd call in that situation.

The whole reason for me doing my books was obviously for the CPU to play realistic but I'm OCD and always take it to the extreme. I went into major detail on the Seahawks both offensive and defensively. After putting in days making sure it was accurate it's hard to go back to default. The problem would be solved if I could upload my playbooks to then download with my other profile so both controllers have the playbooks. So if I have packers and Seahawks done as of now on controller 1 I have to assign it to CPU playbook. I can't do that for the controller 2 however. Sure a simple solution is redo playbook on the other controller but I have probably a weeks worth of editing with it with all the detail. Hard to even get motivated to redo all that.

The weird thing is I can upload from the 2nd profile and when I first got the game and tested to upload a file it worked on my original profile. I then deleted it as it was just a test and nothing but then ever since I couldn't upload from that profile.

I've tried using Seahawks regular playbook when I'm testing the CPU playbooks I've done with other teams. It just isn't the same knowing how the other playbook is so authentic with plays they run out of different formations from last year and this pre season. I probably got rid of 50-60 plays that were repetitive and added 100-120 new ones. Then rated every play for down and distance.

Sorry I'm just rambling and bitching! It's just disheartening as it makes game 1000x better and now hard to go backwards. If I wasn't so damn OCD with this type of stuff and saw the difference is be like oh well but now that I do it's really hard to go back... Like someone said earlier why not use default balanced or run n shoot , etc books. I just can't do it. Lol! Maybe for bottom 20 teams but I want the top 12 playoff teams playing like themselves. To each their own I guess...

End rant sorry...

Quick question for you guys though... When you bring up uoad screen and your gamertag is at top left of screen does it show your profile pic? I got nothing and it almost looks like it doesn't even recognize me or load anything. Just curious what others are seeing....

[aholbert32]

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Unfortunately, that seems to be the last list of this exact nature on the forums...

I did find this thread form the next year that tried to address the situation with created coaches and using their run / pass and aggressiveness settings to manipulate gameplay:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-run-ball.html

Here's the reference that was used:

http://www.fftoday.com/articles/smith/13_run_pass_ratios.html

I still think the generics yield the quickest and easiest "fix" for this, so perhaps someone will take the initiative to match the current HC schemes to the appropriate generic...

A lot of the HC's just relocated (Fox / Ryan), so one could also match what their former team used to their current team...

I'd do it, but I'm traveling and don't have access to a console!

I'm gonna give it a shot today. Stay tuned.

[SwaggerCoach]

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Hey everyone,

Here's a link that explains how to copy saved files from your Xbox to a USB drive/external storage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W968QaCBEDw

Here's a link that explains how to copy saved files from your PS4 to a USB drive/external storage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlwHrL9M80

I'm going to tweak my 3 playbooks I've finished so far (Tampa, Carolina, New Orleans) to account for not having inside the 5 correctly interpreted. Then re-upload to Madden Share.

Then I will throw them onto a USB and put them online for external download. That way those of you having trouble with Madden Share on PS4 will still be in business.

[aholbert32]

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Hey everyone,

Here's a link that explains how to copy saved files from your Xbox to a USB drive/external storage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W968QaCBEDw

Here's a link that explains how to copy saved files from your PS4 to a USB drive/external storage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlwHrL9M80

I'm going to tweak my 3 playbooks I've finished so far (Tampa, Carolina, New Orleans) to account for not having inside the 5 correctly interpreted. Then re-upload to Madden Share.

Then I will throw them onto a USB and put them online for external download. That way those of you having trouble with Madden Share on PS4 will still be in business.

I dont know if that will work because the files are connected to your account and I dont think there is a way to resign files to a new account out yet.

[aholbert32]

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Alright. Here is my take on the generic playbooks. Let me know what you think:


Arizona Cardinals- Run and Gun

Atlanta Falcons- west coast

Baltimore Ravens – balanced or west coast (Kubiak ran a WC offense last year but not sure if they will run it with Kubiak gone)

Buffalo Bills-run balance (Ryan moved from NYJ and at least from preseason it appears he will run a run focused offense)

Carolina Panthers -panthers

Chicago Bears - pass balanced (Changed from Run Balanced: The bears had the second lowest run % last year)

Cincinnati Bengals -pass balanced

Cleveland Browns- West Coast (Pettine runs a WC)

Dallas Cowboys-pass balanced (Sticking with Pass Balanced because this generic playbook has more formations (Singleback) that are similar to the real Cowboys playbook)

Denver Broncos-west coast (Kubiak runs a west coast offense. Still plenty of shotgun and single back for Manning to run in this playbook)

Detroit Lions – Lions (I think this can stay the same since the Lions offense hasnt changed much under the new coach)

Green Bay Packers- run and gun

Houston Texans- Texans or Run Balanced(If you don't mind the overuse of 4 verts on 3rd and 4th and long, stick with the Texans playbookj
Indianapolis Colts – pass balanced (Not enough shotgun formations in Vermeil’s playbook. Colts have one of the lowest run percentages)

Jacksonville Jaguars- west coast - (No real RB, under 40% run ration and they run a few pistol plays = west coast. Also Gus Bradley’s O has been a west coast offense)

Kansas City Chiefs- west coast – (Andy Reid = West Coast)

Miami Dolphins- Run and Shoot – (This is a tough one: Philbin used to
run a west coast offense but that changed two years ago when Tannehill came in and he went to more Shotgun sets. RNS is the closest generic playbook to what Miami currently runs. Run and Gun is close but it has I formation, Wildcat and other plays that Miami doesn't run.

Minnesota Vikings – Balanced (I expect them to run more with AP back but I don't think their Run/Pass ratio will rise enough to make it a run only offense)

New England Patriots- balance

New Orleans Saints – run and gun (I hate that the Wildcat is in this playbook but everything else is perfect.

New York Giants- pass balanced

New York Jets- West Coast (OC Chan Gailey runs more of a spread offense but until I see them go with a majority Shotgun offense, I think the West Coast playbook is a better fit)

Oakland Raiders- pass balanced – (Oakland was last in run ratio and 4th in passes attempted. Most of that was because they were behind in a lot of games. )

Philadelphia Eagles- Run and Shoot (Closest generic playbook to the Eagles offense. No I formation, Weak or Strong,)

Pittsburgh Steelers –West Coast (OC Haley runs a West Coast scheme)

Saint Louis Rams-run balance

San Diego Chargers - West Coast (McCoy runs a West Coast scheme with a few more downfield plays. Pass balance is another option.)

San Francisco 49ers – 49ers or run balanced ( more passing on 1st and 2nd down)

Seattle Seahawks- run balanced

Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Run and Gun

Tennessee Titans- Pass balanced or Run and Gun (Run and Gun if you want Pistol plays.)

Washington Redskins- West Coast (Gruden runs the WC)

[Badguy1985]

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Alright. Here is my take on the generic playbooks. Let me know what you think:


Arizona Cardinals- Run and Gun

Atlanta Falcons- pass balanced (Fox moved from Den and I’m assuming he uses a similar playbook)

Baltimore Ravens – balanced or west coast (Kubiak ran a WC offense last year but not sure if they will run it with Kubiak gone)

Buffalo Bills-run balance (Ryan moved from NYJ and at least from preseason it appears he will run a run focused offense)

Carolina Panthers -panthers

Chicago Bears - pass balanced (Changed from Run Balanced: The bears had the second lowest run % last year)

Cincinnati Bengals -pass balanced

Cleveland Browns- West Coast (Pettine runs a WC)

Dallas Cowboys-pass balanced (Sticking with Pass Balanced because this generic playbook has more formations (Singleback) that are similar to the real Cowboys playbook)

Denver Broncos-west coast (Kubiak runs a west coast offense. Still plenty of shotgun and single back for Manning to run in this playbook)

Detroit Lions – Lions (I think this can stay the same since the Lions offense hasnt changed much under the new coach)

Green Bay Packers- run and gun

Houston Texans- Texans or Run Balanced(If you don't mind the overuse of 4 verts on 3rd and 4th and long, stick with the Texans playbookj
Indianapolis Colts – pass balanced (Not enough shotgun formations in Vermeil’s playbook. Colts have one of the lowest run percentages)

Jacksonville Jaguars- west coast - (No real RB, under 40% run ration and they run a few pistol plays = west coast. Also Gus Bradley’s O has been a west coast offense)

Kansas City Chiefs- west coast – (Andy Reid = West Coast)

Miami Dolphins- Run and Shoot – (This is a tough one: Philbin used to
run a west coast offense but that changed two years ago when Tannehill came in and he went to more Shotgun sets. RNS is the closest generic playbook to what Miami currently runs. Run and Gun is close but it has I formation, Wildcat and other plays that Miami doesn't run.

Minnesota Vikings – Balanced (I expect them to run more with AP back but I don't think their Run/Pass ratio will rise enough to make it a run only offense)

New England Patriots- balance

New Orleans Saints – run and gun (I hate that the Wildcat is in this playbook but everything else is perfect.

New York Giants- pass balanced

New York Jets- West Coast (OC Chan Gailey runs more of a spread offense but until I see them go with a majority Shotgun offense, I think the West Coast playbook is a better fit)

Oakland Raiders- pass balanced – (Oakland was last in run ratio and 4th in passes attempted. Most of that was because they were behind in a lot of games. )

Philadelphia Eagles- Run and Shoot (Closest generic playbook to the Eagles offense. No I formation, Weak or Strong,)

Pittsburgh Steelers –West Coast (OC Haley runs a West Coast scheme)

Saint Louis Rams-run balance

San Diego Chargers - West Coast (McCoy runs a West Coast scheme with a few more downfield plays. Pass balance is another option.)

San Francisco 49ers – 49ers or run balanced ( more passing on 1st and 2nd down)

Seattle Seahawks- run balanced

Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Run and Gun

Tennessee Titans- Pass balanced or Run and Gun (Run and Gun if you want Pistol plays.)

Washington Redskins- West Coast (Gruden runs the WC)

Few things from the NFC North - John Fox went to Chicago, not Atlanta. Atlanta hired Dan Quinn from Seattle's staff.

The Packers, Dolphins and Giants (Joe Philbin and Ben McAdoo were offensive coaches under McCarthy) do have similarities to the run and shoot in their passing offenses, but run and shoot PB doesn't play well with simulation. The tight ends get like 2 catches a year.

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[aholbert32]

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Few things from the NFC North - John Fox went to Chicago, not Atlanta. Atlanta hired Dan Quinn from Seattle's staff.

The Packers, Dolphins and Giants (Joe Philbin and Ben McAdoo were offensive coaches under McCarthy) do have similarities to the run and shoot in their passing offenses, but run and shoot PB doesn't play well with simulation. The tight ends get like 2 catches a year.

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I'll make the John Fox change.

FYI, I dont suggest using these for simulation. I typically switch the playbook before playing a game and switch back to their original playbook before simming.

[angels28]

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If you did a 32 team setup and became owner for 31 and coach for your team. Can you give owners a different created playbook. So you don't have to use 2 controllers ?