Drag Routes Always Open?

[Kushmir]

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planted?? LOL! suuuure he did. well atleast now everyone knows how to shade inside......*sarcasm*

last time: front 7 come up on run commit? sure. safety? perhaps. CBs in man coverage? CAN NEVER HAPPEN.

EVER.

[Phobia]

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planted?? LOL! suuuure he did. well atleast now everyone knows how to shade inside......*sarcasm*

last time: front 7 come up on run commit? sure. safety? perhaps. CBs in man coverage? CAN NEVER HAPPEN.

EVER.

I don't know how you can explain it anyway else, he does a quick chop with his legs like he slowing down, plants, then runs other direction.

Play is at 4:40 if anyone else wants to view it.

I don't have a problem with the interception. I do have a problem with what run commit is doing to the defenders. It is not my idea of how run commit should act.

[fballturkey]

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CB looked fine. Yeah run commit has been broken like that since it was implemented.

[Kushmir]

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CB looked fine. Yeah run commit has been broken like that since it was implemented.

i doubt that. guy leaves the WR runs about 5 yards THEN stops on a dime, sprints back for the pick and doesnt even have to dive? lol....seems legit.

at a basic level you dont get to commit to run AND play the pass. again--this is basic 'dime defenses aren't designed to stop the run' stuff. If that corner's in man and jumps the route? cool. leaving his man and sprinting back? #notsomuch

[JOS1181]

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i doubt that. guy leaves the WR runs about 5 yards THEN stops on a dime, sprints back for the pick and doesnt even have to dive? lol....seems legit.

Agreed. That was ugly. For him to run at least 5 yards away from the WR and as soon as the throw is made run all the way back and shift into position for the INT is stupid.

Had he just ran at an angle and got between the ball and the WR it would have been fine.

There is way to much shifting and warping this year in the passing game. I have lost count how many times a WR has had great position ( Human or CPU ) and the throw is to the correct area but then see the DB shift to that area just so a certain animation can play out.

[ggsimmonds]

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Agreed. That was ugly. For him to run at least 5 yards away from the WR and as soon as the throw is made run all the way back and shift into position for the INT is stupid.

Had he just ran at an angle and got between the ball and the WR it would have been fine.

There is way to much shifting and warping this year in the passing game. I have lost count how many times a WR has had great position ( Human or CPU ) and the throw is to the correct area but then see the DB shift to that area just so a certain animation can play out.

There was no warping on that play.
The CB planted his feet to run to the WR immediately before the pass.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that interception.

There is a big problem with both corners leaving their assignment because of run commit though. That is inexcusable.

[DreSki]

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There was no warping on that play.
The CB planted his feet to run to the WR immediately before the pass.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that interception.

There is a big problem with both corners leaving their assignment because of run commit though. That is inexcusable.

Agree with them here. I feel for you that it was probably frustrating to have it happen but that wasnt a warp INT there. Corner commited and then broke back towards the receiver before the ball left the QBs hand. If he caught back up on a streak or somthing for an INT youd have a point but it was like a 2 yard hitch and CB is right in between the line of sight of the QB and receiver. Its worriesome that the CB left his whole man if anything.

[Young Coaches]

Drag Routes Always Open?

So I've been messing with the game quite a bit just to see if there's anything that was over-powered and started to notice that drag routes are wide open 95% of the time.



It's weird, because I can't really find any other routes that are so open. I guess the good news is that it's a low yardage play, for the most part. And press coverage mixed with a little blitzing/pressure usually blows the play up. Just wish that the CPU CB's could defend it, given that it's one of the easier things to cover in football.



Anyone else seeing this, or am I crazy?

Anticipate the pass w/ your middle linebacker, pressure the quarterback and make the defense defend inside by pressing Y then right stick to the left. (Triangle then right stick to the left on ps4)


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[Kushmir]

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Agree with them here. I feel for you that it was probably frustrating to have it happen but that wasnt a warp INT there. Corner commited and then broke back towards the receiver before the ball left the QBs hand. If he caught back up on a streak or somthing for an INT youd have a point but it was like a 2 yard hitch and CB is right in between the line of sight of the QB and receiver. Its worriesome that the CB left his whole man if anything.

respectfully disagree but i'm over it. Commit needs to be redesigned to be a major part of the strategy part of Madden. I think we all agree that CBs in man leaving their assignments because we Commit to run is......

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Agreed. That was ugly. For him to run at least 5 yards away from the WR and as soon as the throw is made run all the way back and shift into position for the INT is stupid.

Had he just ran at an angle and got between the ball and the WR it would have been fine.

There is way to much shifting and warping this year in the passing game. I have lost count how many times a WR has had great position ( Human or CPU ) and the throw is to the correct area but then see the DB shift to that area just so a certain animation can play out.

For me the issue isn't that he recovered enough to make a play on the ball - he was almost exactly between the QB and corner - the issue is that he immediately was able to turn and pick the ball without seeing it. MOre plausibly the DB should have tried to swat it.

[JOS1181]

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For me the issue isn't that he recovered enough to make a play on the ball - he was almost exactly between the QB and corner - the issue is that he immediately was able to turn and pick the ball without seeing it. MOre plausibly the DB should have tried to swat it.

Another problem with the play was that the shift put the DB behind the WR to make the INT. The WR didnt even try to move.. Just sat there and didnt even try to come back to the ball. That is why i never run any curls or hooks in this game. The DB comes back to the ball and the WR doesnt.

[Birdman18]

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Question with the shading.. Do you have to be in press for them to truly shade the wr? When I pan the camera back, even though I've shaded inside it looks as if my corner is on the outside shoulder of the WR, no matter how close or far he is off the wr

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[2_headedmonster]

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I don't know how you can explain it anyway else, he does a quick chop with his legs like he slowing down, plants, then runs other direction.

Play is at 4:40 if anyone else wants to view it.

I don't have a problem with the interception. I do have a problem with what run commit is doing to the defenders. It is not my idea of how run commit should act.

i dont think there should have been any way the CB should have been able to make a play on that ball. Maybe run him down because of inertia, but yea, definitely not a pick.

[Phobia]

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i dont think there should have been any way the CB should have been able to make a play on that ball. Maybe run him down because of inertia, but yea, definitely not a pick.

So are you saying there was warping like Kush?

[DreSki]

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So are you saying there was warping like Kush?

He probably means it just shouldve been a bat down and not a pick.