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  • Nuke LaLoosh
    8bit Super Macho Man
    • Aug 2010
    • 104

    #196
    Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

    Originally posted by Robo COP
    didn't think to check this out till now. Looked back at my draft class, definitely an area of concern.

    4 RBs in the draft class with 90+ speed (3 90s and 1 91). The 3 90s were later round picks (I think one was 4th, rest were 5th or later) and all are mid 60 ovr.

    The 91 speed guy was a late 1st rounder by the Redskins. 91 speed but only 89 accel. 78 ovr.

    No true speed backs in the draft class at all. I am hoping it was just a bad draw for the draft class, but if maddens track record is any indication, I doubt it
    I was kinda talking about something like this in a different thread. What I've been doing is looking for a WR with "a RB build" who has good speed, acceleration, and agility. Then I change him to RB right after the draft. I just took a guy in the 1st rd, 6'1" 220 lbs. I think he was an 80 OVR, 89 speed, 96 agility, 97 accel. The speed isn't there like I would want it to be but he is superstar development so I'll build his speed up. The important part is he has the acceleration. He dropped to a 75 OVR when moved to RB. I'll have him built up quickly.

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    • scoobyskyline3
      Rookie
      • Jan 2011
      • 377

      #197
      Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

      The last season i turned a WR into a rb, but pre-combine these guys dont look too spectacular. Meanwhile i found a HB with A elusiveness, B+ Juke and B+ Trucking that shows "Speed Back" so i really dont know what to expect and if i should draft him or wait another season for that true 97 Spd WR conversion.

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      • Nuke LaLoosh
        8bit Super Macho Man
        • Aug 2010
        • 104

        #198
        Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

        They
        Originally posted by scoobyskyline3
        The last season i turned a WR into a rb, but pre-combine these guys dont look too spectacular. Meanwhile i found a HB with A elusiveness, B+ Juke and B+ Trucking that shows "Speed Back" so i really dont know what to expect and if i should draft him or wait another season for that true 97 Spd WR conversion.
        One season I took a WR, I don't remember exactly, 6' 200lbs. Upper 90's for all three categories, speed, agility, acc. Moved him to RB and it was unfair. Sweeps and pitches, he was just gone.

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        • Robo COP
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          • Feb 2012
          • 911

          #199
          Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

          Originally posted by eviladams
          They

          One season I took a WR, I don't remember exactly, 6' 200lbs. Upper 90's for all three categories, speed, agility, acc. Moved him to RB and it was unfair. Sweeps and pitches, he was just gone.
          This is my concern with moving a WR to RB to get a speed back. Feels like exploiting the game. I don't want to draft a WR to move to HB because you don't typically see that happen in the NFL. Some guys will make the switch, but they were usually already a RB/WR type in college. I have thought of moving Cordaralle Patterson to RB (I believe you mentioned this in another thread) but I hope that I can find a faster RB in the draft than his 90 speed. Tavon Austin is another I thought of moving, but he is so small it's not really realistic. I may move him to RB to use him like a Dexter McCluster (but line him up in the slot a lot more). Still debating

          Looking at it now though, I guess there aren't a whole lot of speed RBs in the NFL anyway. This past combine Langford ran the fastest 40 with 4.42 (which translated to 92 speed). Only 2 others ran faster than 4.5 (and only by .02 and .01 of a second). I suppose the draft classes aren't terrible at looking like an actual NFL draft. Hopefully my first draft was a bit of a fluke and I'll find some faster guys in this one.

          EDIT: Here's a chart to help anyone looking for a speed back

          http://www.sportsgamersonline.com/ma...ne-guide-10776

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          • Nuke LaLoosh
            8bit Super Macho Man
            • Aug 2010
            • 104

            #200
            Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

            Originally posted by Robo COP
            This is my concern with moving a WR to RB to get a speed back. Feels like exploiting the game. I don't want to draft a WR to move to HB because you don't typically see that happen in the NFL. Some guys will make the switch, but they were usually already a RB/WR type in college. I have thought of moving Cordaralle Patterson to RB (I believe you mentioned this in another thread) but I hope that I can find a faster RB in the draft than his 90 speed. Tavon Austin is another I thought of moving, but he is so small it's not really realistic. I may move him to RB to use him like a Dexter McCluster (but line him up in the slot a lot more). Still debating

            Looking at it now though, I guess there aren't a whole lot of speed RBs in the NFL anyway. This past combine Langford ran the fastest 40 with 4.42 (which translated to 92 speed). Only 2 others ran faster than 4.5 (and only by .02 and .01 of a second). I suppose the draft classes aren't terrible at looking like an actual NFL draft. Hopefully my first draft was a bit of a fluke and I'll find some faster guys in this one.

            EDIT: Here's a chart to help anyone looking for a speed back

            http://www.sportsgamersonline.com/ma...ne-guide-10776
            Guys get moved around all the time. Edelman, Pryor, Denard. It happens. I just got the most recent WR to RB up to 90 speed. I find cpu generated RBs to just be too slow. Plus some of my favorite RBs were over 6' and 220lbs.

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            • NDAlum
              ND
              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #201
              Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

              Originally posted by Robo COP
              This is my concern with moving a WR to RB to get a speed back. Feels like exploiting the game. I don't want to draft a WR to move to HB because you don't typically see that happen in the NFL. Some guys will make the switch, but they were usually already a RB/WR type in college. I have thought of moving Cordaralle Patterson to RB (I believe you mentioned this in another thread) but I hope that I can find a faster RB in the draft than his 90 speed. Tavon Austin is another I thought of moving, but he is so small it's not really realistic. I may move him to RB to use him like a Dexter McCluster (but line him up in the slot a lot more). Still debating
              I believe it is exploiting the game. With that said, play it how you want. If you want to make the change, go for it.

              It's clearly an unfair advantage over the CPU if you move WR's with 95+ speed to HB.
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              • NDAlum
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                • Jun 2010
                • 11453

                #202
                Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                Originally posted by eviladams
                Guys get moved around all the time. Edelman, Pryor, Denard. It happens. I just got the most recent WR to RB up to 90 speed. I find cpu generated RBs to just be too slow. Plus some of my favorite RBs were over 6' and 220lbs.
                You didn't name an elite speed guy who was moved to HB. If anything, the elite speed guys all move to WR.
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                • nyquil99
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                  • Jul 2004
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                  #203
                  Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                  Is it exploiting the game or simply finding a workout for the game's inefficiency? The game never gives you a fast RB, so this seems like a workaround.

                  Not sure if I would/will do this, but to each their own.

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                  • NDAlum
                    ND
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 11453

                    #204
                    Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                    I wouldn't say it's an inefficiency. It was a deliberate game design. Now we can sit here and say we want to see a few speed backs in the draft...and I would agree. Of course I'd love to come across the 95 spd/acc/agi guy who is a freak and runs through the league. By design that player isn't in the draft pool for Madden 16.

                    To me it's an exploit if you are giving yourself an advantage that the CPU can never equal. Sure they can draft that player away from you, but he'll never be a HB like you would make him. Unless you actually control all the teams and give the CPU a few elite speed guys then yes, you are exploiting the game by gaining an unfair advantage.

                    With that said: I don't care if anybody does it. It's your game so do what you please. Rush for 3,000 yards a season and 50 TD's. Do whatever makes you happy.
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                    • TheShizNo1
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #205
                      Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                      How many elite speed backs have there been in the league? I feel like most of those guys are great 3rd down backs/returners or like ND (you gotta change that name) said, they get moved to WR.

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                      • scoobyskyline3
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 377

                        #206
                        Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                        Is awareness the attribute governing your rookie qbs random errant passes? Or is it something else

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                        • NDAlum
                          ND
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 11453

                          #207
                          Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                          How many elite speed backs have there been in the league? I feel like most of those guys are great 3rd down backs/returners or like ND (you gotta change that name) said, they get moved to WR.

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                          Chris Johnson is the only one that comes to mind. He ran a ridiculous 40 and then for 2,000 yards.
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                          • scoobyskyline3
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                            • Jan 2011
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                            #208
                            Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                            Does Jamaal Charles count as one?

                            The Real issue in my opinion is, in this madden a 4.3 = 97 speed
                            While Clinton Portis and and Laron Landry had a race in training camp to prove who was the fastest player on the Skins a while back and CP won with a 4.33 but we will never see a rookie rb with even 94 spd in the draft on this game

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                            • Nuke LaLoosh
                              8bit Super Macho Man
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 104

                              #209
                              Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              You didn't name an elite speed guy who was moved to HB. If anything, the elite speed guys all move to WR.
                              Denard is listed as a RB, not WR. With that said, the game has short comings, slow RBs is one of those short comings. While the CPU may not have the advantage of moving a fast WR to RB, they do (undeniably) have an advantage while drafting in the first place. Numerous times I've seen the cpu skip over highly rated prospects because they have slow development. Or draft guys earlier than the should because they know the player is better than his draft grade.

                              I do solo franchises. To me, it's fun to build my teams how I see fit. I love realism, but this game doesn't have it. Never has, never will. I see a lot of posts on here where people are way too over the top in attempting to simulate real football. It is a game, it plays like a game, and that's all it really is to me.

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                              • NDAlum
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                                • Jun 2010
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                                #210
                                Re: Madden 16 CFM Draft: Biggest Freaks/Studs/Gems in

                                Not a fan of how you quote me then talk about how people go over the top to simulate real football.

                                I'm not changing WR to HB because I think it's a cheap tactic, not because it isn't sim. If you want to, go ahead. Play the game as you see fit. If you get more enjoyment by making the change then go for it man.




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