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  • D81SKINS
    MVP
    • Dec 2014
    • 1671

    #346
    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

    Originally posted by Bmore Irish
    So for the opposing player workaround, I'm assuming you can use any active player who won't see the field? I'd prefer not to cut players just to do the 3rd qb trick.
    Just found out tonight!
    You can still do create a coach and use the 2nd controller trick!
    Read my post on previous pg. If interested(#344, last post on previous pg.)

    Keys:

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...skins81-8.html

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    • Rjrosco
      Rookie
      • Feb 2011
      • 177

      #347
      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

      Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
      Played with the updated playbook just now. Game was incredible, man. Perfect run/pass balance. Gurley absolutely GUTTED me for almost 200 yards. Sheesh. The Rams ran 21 times in total. Goff was something like 20/36 for around 280.

      You nailed it, man. Looking forward to more!!
      Swagger whose sliders are you using or similar too

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      • booker21
        MVP
        • Jun 2003
        • 4928

        #348
        Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

        I was looking at the playbook for the ps4 but I see that the gameplan is not set correctly. There are just all kind of plays in there. This makes the CPU run on 3and15 for example. Which make no sense.

        Another thing. Any idea why I don't get the strategy plays from the gameplan?

        I did set them but i get this message every time.



        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
        Last edited by booker21; 08-31-2016, 12:30 AM.
        English, is not my first language.

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        • vannwolfhawk
          MVP
          • Jun 2009
          • 3412

          #349
          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

          Originally posted by booker21
          I was looking at the playbook for the ps4 but I see that the gameplan is not set correctly. There are just all kind of plays in there. This makes the CPU run on 3and15 for example. Which make no sense.

          Another thing. Any idea why I don't get the strategy plays from the gameplan?

          I did set them but i get this message every time.



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          Teams will sometimes do a draw play but should only be 1 or 2 of those mixed in with 40-50 pass plays IMO... The CPU caught me off guard with a draw on 3rd and long with custom book and got the 1st. Problem is it can't differentiate between 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 17. Not sure if field position is factored in as well. For example if 3rd and 17 at 37 yard line it might benefit CPU to do a draw as it could result in getting in better fg range. It does happen though...
          Basketball Playbooks
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          • DeuceDouglas
            Madden Dev Team
            • Apr 2010
            • 4297

            #350
            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

            Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
            I made a Chargers playbook since they're my first opponent in CFM this year but haven't gotten to testing it yet. I'll probably end up testing it tomorrow but it's the first playbook I've made so if anyone would be willing to give it a shot and let me know how it plays it'd be greatly appreciated. I wasn't sure what to do with the audibles so I just left them the same and I highly doubt it will be anywhere near the level of Vann's but if it goes over well I'll start doing more of the AFC or any teams that aren't done.

            System: Xbox 1
            GT: DeuceDouglas
            File Name: CustomChargers
            Just tested this out using Charters sliders and had a really fun game (won 37-34 in OT) but the playbook definitely needs some tweaking I think. I got 8 sacks but I'm not sure if it was because of the sliders or the plays but I'm leaning heavily towards the latter. There was a few plays that resulted in some bonehead QB but I'm going to play another game and see what happens. I think I may have weighted passes too heavily on 1st down and 2nd and long which made them seem really pass happy but the game I played was kind of funky with how it played out. Did see them run a couple draws on 3rd and really long which was nice. It was definitely better than the base books but far from perfect.

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            • booker21
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 4928

              #351
              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

              Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
              Teams will sometimes do a draw play but should only be 1 or 2 of those mixed in with 40-50 pass plays IMO... The CPU caught me off guard with a draw on 3rd and long with custom book and got the 1st. Problem is it can't differentiate between 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 17. Not sure if field position is factored in as well. For example if 3rd and 17 at 37 yard line it might benefit CPU to do a draw as it could result in getting in better fg range. It does happen though...
              Yes but that was because the Draw play was on the gameplan. To be honest, these custom playbooks seems like they just throw all kind of plays in there without worrying about the distance or any gameplanning. On 3rd and long (more than 8) you have listed like 15 or more run plays, I know defaults are very very basic but the do take into account this.

              Also i will ask for those who created the def PB. Do you see strategy plays or this is a bug?
              English, is not my first language.

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              • vannwolfhawk
                MVP
                • Jun 2009
                • 3412

                #352
                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                Originally posted by booker21
                Yes but that was because the Draw play was on the gameplan. To be honest, these custom playbooks seems like they just throw all kind of plays in there without worrying about the distance or any gameplanning. On 3rd and long (more than 8) you have listed like 15 or more run plays, I know defaults are very very basic but the do take into account this.

                Also i will ask for those who created the def PB. Do you see strategy plays or this is a bug?
                Ya I got too carried away with plays added. So if I had 90 pass plays on 3rd and long I'd put 10 draw plays but at the same time the pass plays are rated 4-5 stars with 1 draw play in each star category. At least on the final versions. It will never be perfect. Sometimes I see great play calling games then I see some weird things. All I know is for me playing CPU with stock books is frustrating as they throw the ball away 8-9x a game.

                Strategy plays?
                Basketball Playbooks
                http://www.nextplayhoops.com

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                • ocho cuatro
                  Rookie
                  • May 2009
                  • 300

                  #353
                  Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                  Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                  Ya I got too carried away with plays added. So if I had 90 pass plays on 3rd and long I'd put 10 draw plays but at the same time the pass plays are rated 4-5 stars with 1 draw play in each star category. At least on the final versions. It will never be perfect. Sometimes I see great play calling games then I see some weird things. All I know is for me playing CPU with stock books is frustrating as they throw the ball away 8-9x a game.

                  Strategy plays?
                  Vann - I've replayed Pats/Cards using your custom playbooks (off and def for Arizona), and it plays really well. I got beat several times with draw plays on 3rd down. Great job.

                  Also, with Swagger's recommendation to set QB's to "aggressive" (or "balanced" if you're in CFM), Palmer was killing me in the passing game.

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                  • booker21
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4928

                    #354
                    Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                    Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                    Ya I got too carried away with plays added. So if I had 90 pass plays on 3rd and long I'd put 10 draw plays but at the same time the pass plays are rated 4-5 stars with 1 draw play in each star category. At least on the final versions. It will never be perfect. Sometimes I see great play calling games then I see some weird things. All I know is for me playing CPU with stock books is frustrating as they throw the ball away 8-9x a game.

                    Strategy plays?
                    Strategy plays is the one that are taken from the gameplan. This only affect if you use coach suggestion for the user team.

                    Since i want to use the gameplan plays, i only call strategy plays. On CPU they take into consideration the starts, but on user suggestion, they just throw you 4 or 5 strategy plays from that scenario.

                    The problem is on defense. I don`t get any at all. I guess you are not using coach suggestions to call the user team and you are just going from the formations.
                    English, is not my first language.

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                    • xSABOx
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 846

                      #355
                      Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                      Originally posted by SwaggerCoach
                      Sabo, got a chance to test out your Dallas Playbook.

                      I was the Redskins vs Cowboys.

                      Notes:
                      - Awesome variety - saw lots of different pass plays in there. Short, medium, and deep
                      - Zeke only ran the ball 9 times. Partly because Romo chucked 3 INT's - but also because he didn't have enough plays dialed up for him. Also, the few runs I did see came on 3rd and medium situations (like 3rd and 5 or 6) which didn't feel realistic
                      - The Stick pass concept was called repeatedly and was too predictable to stop. I personally eliminate that play out of all of my playbooks because of how poorly the AI tends to execute it. 9 times out of 10 they throw to the flat to the TE who steps out for a 2 yard gain.

                      Great first attempt man. It was a lot of fun. If the CPU could dial up more running plays on 1st and 2nd and less on 3rd, in my opinion, you'll have a killer playbook. Thanks again for all the hard work.
                      Thanks for the input!! Yea checked the Cowboys book and they have a ton of stick plays... I make it a conscious effort to remove all curl/flats, corner strike and four verts... I'll go back and remove all of the stick plays... I'm gonna experiment with run plays... I've motored that because there are twice as many pass plays the cpu is favoring those on most situations... To make up for it on gonna attempt to give all run plays a 1.5 stars on 1st and 2/medium... For all 3rd and medium/long make all pass plays 1.5 stars...Maybe for the run heavy teams go 2.5 stars for running plays...hopefully it doesn't eliminate the variety of play calling!!!
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                      • Uncle Elton John
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 269

                        #356
                        Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                        are we able to add the playbooks to each team under ?team settings" in CFM if the edited and new pb is based off their actual base pb in madden 17 ?

                        such as if download the GB edited pb that had its base as not a custom pb, but the pb that madden 17 gives to GB - can I add that in team settings using 32-team control, or do I still have to use the two-controller work-around. I have been told varying things on this and have not yet started my CFM.

                        thanks

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                        • DeuceDouglas
                          Madden Dev Team
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 4297

                          #357
                          Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                          Just started working on the Texans playbook and it's going a lot faster than my first one. What are you doing for audibles? Just picking four good plays for each set or just getting rid of verticals, curl flats, etc. when applicable?

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                          • HailTheSkins
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 89

                            #358
                            Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                            So under your user name you have playbooks for every team. Are some of these incomplete still? Or will I be able to use all the ones that say custom and then team name? How do I know which ones to download? Thanks on advance and great work

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                            • HailTheSkins
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 89

                              #359
                              Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                              Originally posted by vannwolfhawk
                              Some of you remember this thread from last year. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...playbooks.html I have tested playbooks for the CPU and the workaround from last year (thanks to swagger coach) still works. This year you can assign the CPU playbooks in play now (couldn't last year) as well as cfm. For play now you just need a 2nd controller. Download the custom playbook and go to play now and advanced settings and set the playbook you want for both teams. Once you assign a playbook start the game. Once the game starts move the 2nd controller to CPU. You will have to initially call the 1st play but after the kick its all the CPU.

                              As for cfm it's a little different. Once you start the cfm as a owner or coach. You will need to go to settings and select starter to off. Then you will then create a 2nd profile by clicking the R stick down. Select a team and then pick a player (not a owner or coach) and choose a backup qb from Undrafted. He will then be a 3rd qb on your depth chart and never see the field. You can then go and play the same way selecting and using 2 controllers. This time however after you select your teams playbook in the team select screen you will just click advance to game as the user. Then your done. The only other thing you will need to do is make sure your 2nd controller is plugged into your Xbox so it doesn't auto shut off as this will kick you from the game. If it's plugged in you are good to go.

                              For those who do not no this is a game changer in how the CPU ai plays. They now play to their strengths, use plays they call irl and make the CPU ai incredible. All the situations and audibles are redone. All the play actions on 3rd and long gone, most all verticals gone. I just finished the panthers rough draft and went and tested it. I was shutting teams down to under 10 most all games before giving the panthers their playbook. I played 1 quarter and gave up 21 points. Like I said it's a game changer. I'm loving the game without playbooks but this takes it to a whole different level. If you don't believe me go download and try yourself.

                              This thread will be for any questions or players who create real team playbooks. I will post them in this thread in the OP. We can also use it as information for people looking to add real plays or routes. So if your team likes to throw lot of screens on 2nd or 3rd and long, etc just throw it out in this thread.

                              Last thing - it was stated you can not use formation subs with custom playbooks. That is true and false. If you start a playbook with your team you can still do formation subs with any formation that was in the original playbook. If you add a new formation you will have to change in game. But in cfm as a player if you choose to do playbooks then because you chose a player you can not (as far as I can tell as of now) change depth charts or formation subs...

                              I have already done a few playbooks that you can download now under my gamertag - vannwolfhawk206 for the xbox1.

                              XBOX 1 PLAYBOOKS - all are rough drafts except the teams listed in bold

                              DEFENSIVE PLAYBOOKS

                              - Seahawks - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                              - Steelers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                              - Packers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                              - Chargers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)

                              - Cardinals - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/27/16)
                              - Cowboys - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)
                              - Panthers - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)
                              - Vikings - defensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/28/16)

                              For the defensive play books here is what I did. First off, I used each teams base defense and didn't really add any new plays outside of that. I wanted everyone to still have the ability to use formation subs in cfm still. I also eliminated (in the star ratings as I did not delete from the playbook as just in case a user wants to use it) all cover 0 plays for the CPU. I did all the audibles, assigned all blitzes to zone blitzes or man blitzes with 1 deep safety. I have all the stars rated the same for now for variety. I also added plays and deleted plays for different situations. Gone forever is the 3rd and 15 double safety blitz or cover 0 plays called by the CPU!

                              Edit: there is a glitch with defensive playbooks with the wildcat and empty packages. Default books have nickel sets for empty packages. I changed to dime, dollar, and quarters but it will not save. Same with the wildcat so again it's a glitch I can't do anything about. They were changed in playbooks but when saved it defaults back except gives plays higher star ratings for some reason...

                              OFFENSIVE PLAYBOOKS

                              - Panthers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/23/16)
                              - Packers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (final draft done and updated on 8/25/16)
                              - Patriots - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Vikings - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Falcons - Offensive Playbook - Vannwolfhawk206
                              - Cardinals - offensive playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/27/16)
                              - 49ers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Saints - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Rams - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Buccaneers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Dolphins - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Eagles - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Bills - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Steelers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (final draft done and updated on 8/25/16)
                              - Cowboys - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Jets - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206
                              - Chargers - Offensive Playbook - vannwolfhawk206 (updated 8/26/16)
                              - Chargers - Offensive Playbook - deucedouglas


                              PS4 PLAYBOOKS

                              File name: BALANCED OFFENSE
                              PSN: TheCouchGuy9
                              Description: Operation Sports Balanced Attack pb for CPU


                              File Name: VERTICAL
                              PSN: TheCouchGuy9
                              Description: Operation Sports Vertical Attack pb for CPU

                              File name: RAMS OFFENSE
                              PSN: Teefmummy

                              File: REDSKINS OFFENSE
                              Name : SaboFF00
                              Title: WAS


                              PSN NAME
                              Sabo00FF
                              TEAMS COMPLETED
                              GB - Chi - Min - Det
                              Jax - Hou - Ind - Ten
                              Was - NYG - Dal - Phi
                              Ari - Sea - LA - SF
                              NO

                              FILE DESCRIPTION
                              OS FORUMS:[insert team nAme]
                              Are the ones listed the only complete team playbooks or are all the teams done? I can see every team to download in your files just want to make sure they are all complete.

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                              • huskerfan4life
                                #1 conrhusker fan
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 926

                                #360
                                Re: Madden 17 Everything Playbooks (custom) for the CPU or user

                                Originally posted by timhere1970
                                Has anyone created a playbook file yet? I would like to look at all the playbooks so I can pick which one to use as my base to create my custom. I see madden school has a video file but I am not able to watch videos on my phone at the moment. Would be nice to get that decision out of the way today.
                                the playbooks on Madden school are they just the plays from the game or are they the plays that would make it custom in game?
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