Why can’t Madden make a game like NBA 2k

[tril]

Re: Why can’t Madden make a game like NBA 2k

Its a number of things.
Personally, I believe that it is a corporate decision. I find it hard to believe that Madden game developers are not passionate about football. If they had more freedom for innovation, Im sure they would do it.

It might also be issues with hardware and software limitations. Every year they take out a certain number of things and add a number of things (even though alot of it is recycled from past versions of Madden). what ever base they are using for Madden its obviously capped out. Dont know why but they never exceed a certain threshold from year to year.

because of this certain game-play features and mechanics never really get to be improved on a year to year basis because they get removed. worked on then put back in years later. Im just making an educated guess, but I do see a pattern in Madden's game development cycle.

Im not a Madden apologist. By now we all should know what to expect with Madden, it is, what it is.

[Heisman]

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Each game/company has different priorities. It is as simple as that. Madden could have a franchise mode as deep and detailed as 2k's I'd they were give the greenlight to do so by the higher ups. Unfortunately that is not what happens, obviously.

2k simply puts the offline modes higher up on their priority list. It has nothing to do with talent, laziness, etc. One company puts the resources into franchise-like modes, the other does not put near as many.

Not going to argue that, but it just seems like overall there is a ton more to do in nba 2k than in Madden. There’s a ton of online modes as well as 80 years worth of seasons with each team playing up to 82 games every year. I believe you can add up to 36 teams (could be wrong) in an expansion mode inside myleague. You can add historic teams to your league with current teams. You can pretty much do everything you can think of.

When people say franchise mode gets neglected in Madden because of ultimate team or the higher ups, it doesn’t make too much sense to me.

[Datninja619]

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Football is also my favorite sport. I've legit had to resort to NBA2K, FIFA, MLB THE SHOW, AND NHL to experience in depth player career modes and franchise modes.. I have no idea what I'm doing majority of the time! But sure do have fun.

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[ChiefKeef300]

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NBA 2k has a very good foundation where they can add new features rather easily. While madden doesn't have the same. They couldn't add the pro bowl for like 7 years cause of "memory issues".

[roadman]

Re: Why can’t Madden make a game like NBA 2k

Each game/company has different priorities. It is as simple as that. Madden could have a franchise mode as deep and detailed as 2k's I'd they were give the greenlight to do so by the higher ups. Unfortunately that is not what happens, obviously.

2k simply puts the offline modes higher up on their priority list. It has nothing to do with talent, laziness, etc. One company puts the resources into franchise-like modes, the other does not put near as many.

Well put, end of the discussion.

We know the higher ups and marketing make the decisions on what is implemented into the game.

[roadman]

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Not going to argue that, but it just seems like overall there is a ton more to do in nba 2k than in Madden. There’s a ton of online modes as well as 80 years worth of seasons with each team playing up to 82 games every year. I believe you can add up to 36 teams (could be wrong) in an expansion mode inside myleague. You can add historic teams to your league with current teams. You can pretty much do everything you can think of.

When people say franchise mode gets neglected in Madden because of ultimate team or the higher ups, it doesn’t make too much sense to me.

Rex mentioned in a interview during the spring time area, that marketing and the higher ups determine what is implemented into the game. Another former Developer mentioned the same thing several years ago.

[Heisman]

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Well put, end the discussion.

We know the higher ups and marketing make the decisions on what is implemented into the game.

I don’t think we should end the discussion. Maybe we should forward this to the EA higher ups. They added back the pro bowl this year and we’re supposed to be happy? If NBA 2k or MLB the show was missing the all star game and they added it as a new feature i’d expect those sub forums on OS to have threads saying wtf as well.

[roadman]

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I don’t think we should end the discussion. Maybe we should forward this to the EA higher ups. They added back the pro bowl this year and we’re supposed to be happy? If NBA 2k or MLB the show was missing the all star game and they added it as a new feature i’d expect those sub forums on OS to have threads saying wtf as well.

How does one do that since they aren't on social media?

The higher ups and marketing will stick to their business plan because it's a money maker for them.

People on OS and many other avenues have tried for over 15 years to change the way Madden is developed.

I just don't see EA Tibs changing the way they make the game based on past history.

[stinkubus]

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I don’t think we should end the discussion. Maybe we should forward this to the EA higher ups. They added back the pro bowl this year and we’re supposed to be happy? If NBA 2k or MLB the show was missing the all star game and they added it as a new feature i’d expect those sub forums on OS to have threads saying wtf as well.

I, for one, agree that you should stop posting on OS immediately and dedicate your time to reaching EA's executives. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

[jfsolo]

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Canes has already said what's what but these threads are really just venting sessions. Mike Young is the Creative Director for Madden so he has some juice. Hitting him up on Twitter is your best bet for voicing your displeasure to someone with a modicum of decision making power on how modes are resourced for the game.

[Shosum13]

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Nba 2k and Madden are on two different levels. I'm not even a nba "fan" or even a basketball fan, but I buy NBA 2K every year along with Madden.

With Madden the only reason I get any enjoyment out of it is because how big of a football fan I am. With NBA 2k it was the opposite, I grew up a big basketball fan but after the "going to work" era of the pistons ended I kind of lost interest in the sport for a little while. Then when MyLeague became what it is today it peaked my interest and I've become a big NBA basketball fan. The last few years probably watched more basketball than I ever have.

I had really high hopes for Madden 20 with features like superstar abilities and the scenario engine. I was very disappointed when I learned that the scenario engine wouldn't affect CPU teams and wouldn't show up in owner mode. The gameplay on the field is pretty fun this year so I'll probably end up picking up 20. But if nothing substantial is done to franchise mode in 21 I'll probably skip it because the gameplay improvements in 20 will probably be enough to keep me entertained for a couple of years.

If Madden even implemented half of the features in franchise mode that are in MyLeague it would add so much to the fun factor for me.

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[GhostofBruce]

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Football is my fav sport and i like video games as well, thats why Im here

If I settle down with a family soon, I want to purchase and play one game per year, and thats Madden. It would meet my football and gaming needs. With that said, I really want Madden to be great, I bet we all do.

15 years of exclusivity and its clear to me that either some stubborn suit at Electronic Arts or the development team or lead at Tiburon just simply dont care about football very much. Somebody or ppl involved in the game dont care about the final product. I see no pride in the Madden series anymore.

I dont even believe this game goes through proper testing internally before release. EA seems to rely on GameChanger kids on Youtube to get feedback on MUT. Smh

EA has missed a golden opportunity to take what is probably Americas most popular sport and turn it into a winner. 15 years and still behind 2k5 in many aspects. There are readers on this site that probably arent even 15 years old themselves.

Im not typically one to write negative things either. I dont leave bad reviews of restaurants for example. But year after year with my fav sport and hobby, and yes im ready to vent.

[JKSportsGamer1984]

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Hey man, give this multi billion dollar company some slack! /s

Right lol. How silly of us to expect a multi-billion dollar company to figure out how to keep referees on the field during gameplay smh.

[Khanchus]

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Honestly I love basketball and football so Madden and 2K are must pick ups every year.


NBA 2k is great and all but when it comes down to Franchise mode and what not, its not that great. Its broken at times and the modes have been barely updated since the 2K's on Xbox 360. Its been disheartening to a point. Granted their base franchise mode is better detailed than madden -- Madden's Franchise mode is almost as good as 2K. Its easy to poop on Madden and not 2K as thats been the norm for years but it certain aspects the argument is false in terms of 2K being far superior to Madden.


Then you compare other modes and its comparing apple to oranges. You just cant compare the my player, park modes and Rec center to anything in Madden because Football does not have anything to compare except for maybe for My player.


Madden is at fault for its lack of individuality and creativity, they could make training camps and other things like that but I guess they are content with whatever they are doing...

[uzileaux]

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Honestly I love basketball and football so Its broken at times and the modes have been barely updated since the 2K's on Xbox 360

Ok that's just straight up false, if you think the mode is broken fine but barely updated? You're lying

The ability to relocate teams, completely alter rules, add expansion teams, ability to override awards, historical team stat tracking, manually adjust injuries, Start Today feature, etc. All of these weren't available in the 360 games.

And all of those things i listed above aren't in Madden, to say their franchise modes are equal is hilarious