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  • Falcon17000
    Rookie
    • Nov 2016
    • 346

    #46
    Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

    Originally posted by BodamEscapePlan
    Honestly, I find it difficult to convince myself to believe anything the Madden dev team (and really, all of EA's sports titles) puts out will do anything but disappoint. I mean, this whole post-release "new scouting system" had a built-in excuse from the moment it was announced; they literally told us that we're lucky to be getting it in Madden 22 at all. So is it any wonder why this company has no integrity when it comes to delivering on expectations and quality?

    That said, I am happy that EA is at least trying to make it seem like they're devoting resources and focusing more on Franchise mode but I think we all know at this point that this dev team and their higher-ups are either too lazy, too greedy, or just don't care enough to put forward anything that isn't buggy, underdeveloped or isn't just a shallow tacked on feature that they won't bother improving upon.
    I don't get posts like this. I really don't.



    Clearly you hate EA. EA probably deserves it. Then why on God's green Earth did you buy the game?

    I hate Activision/Blizzard. I don't care if they release a game so brilliant it would make the most hardened criminal cry like a baby in joy, I'll never purchase a game from them. Why buy if you are so 110% certain that everything and anything they make is going to be 0/10 effort drivel?

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    • stank
      Rookie
      • Dec 2013
      • 7

      #47
      Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

      Originally posted by Falcon17000
      I don't get posts like this. I really don't.



      Clearly you hate EA. EA probably deserves it. Then why on God's green Earth did you buy the game?

      I hate Activision/Blizzard. I don't care if they release a game so brilliant it would make the most hardened criminal cry like a baby in joy, I'll never purchase a game from them. Why buy if you are so 110% certain that everything and anything they make is going to be 0/10 effort drivel?
      If I had to guess, people buy the game because they love football and the NFL. It's pretty hard for some people to not buy the new NFL game because they want to play the sport they love.

      I would assume that A LOT of Madden sales are from people that just like the NFL.

      I wonder if there is anyone out there that would buy this game if it didn't have the NFL license.

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      • Falcon17000
        Rookie
        • Nov 2016
        • 346

        #48
        Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

        Originally posted by stank
        If I had to guess, people buy the game because they love football and the NFL. It's pretty hard for some people to not buy the new NFL game because they want to play the sport they love.

        I would assume that A LOT of Madden sales are from people that just like the NFL.

        I wonder if there is anyone out there that would buy this game if it didn't have the NFL license.

        People want 2K to have it back. Considering how the NBA2K series has been circling the drain and the 2K wrestling games are some of the worst in any genre, I'm not sure it would be what people are expecting. Even once celebrated developers like CD Projekt Red have turned into trash.

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        • adembroski
          49ers
          • Jul 2002
          • 5829

          #49
          Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

          I'd like to see more position focus combinations. Right now it's QB, HB/FB, WR, TE, LT/RT, LG/RG, LR/C, RG/C, LE/RE, DT, ROLB/LOLB, MLB, CB, FS/SS if I remember correctly. How about a few less conventional but still have some logic.

          LT/LG
          RT/RG
          RE/ROLB (when you're looking for an edge rusher)
          LE/DT (3-4 interior)
          SS/MLB (run support specialist)

          Just less conventional mixtures to add variety and strategic hiring.
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          • Mattanite
            MVP
            • Sep 2015
            • 1716

            #50
            Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

            Injury rating being visible for all players from the combine... as they go through their medical evaluation.
            The State of Madden Franchise
            Scouting Tool
            Draft Class Strength Generator
            Franchise Tips

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            • Ragnar84
              Rookie
              • Mar 2018
              • 259

              #51
              Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

              Originally posted by ijumpedthegun
              Just wait until you can pick a position focus for each region and scout either ROLB or LOLB. You won't get the bonus (which, if we're being honest, is fairly minimal anyway) from having a scout with that "specialty, but you can still scout them. I may be mistaken, as I ended up scouting other positions, but I think I remember ROLB and LOLB being an option.



              It's incredibly annoying you can't just scout them as "OLBs" and have to pick either R or L--Madden needs to catch up on how they treat positions (Sam, Will, Mike, and distinguishing between types of DTs on the depth chart), but I guess that's a discussion for another day.


              They need to do away with the old NFL terminology and get with the NEXT GEN game. I would love to see PFF style player and team grades and ratings. They wasted an entire console generation portraying the NFL as if it’s 1995. They need to take gamer feedback and use it not just consider it.


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              • Ragnar84
                Rookie
                • Mar 2018
                • 259

                #52
                Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic14
                Swami said in the podcasts this summer that the Coach Talent Tree would include items for Scouting when the update came. Surprise, surprise it's not in there.


                Have they added any new talents to the trees?


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                • Ragnar84
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 259

                  #53
                  Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                  Originally posted by stank
                  If I had to guess, people buy the game because they love football and the NFL. It's pretty hard for some people to not buy the new NFL game because they want to play the sport they love.



                  I would assume that A LOT of Madden sales are from people that just like the NFL.



                  I wonder if there is anyone out there that would buy this game if it didn't have the NFL license.


                  If you took away all the official NFL and team logos and NFLPA official player names what would people think?
                  AAA game developer or a lower tier game developer?


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                  • bigbob
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 10471

                    #54
                    Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                    Originally posted by Ragnar84
                    They need to do away with the old NFL terminology and get with the NEXT GEN game. I would love to see PFF style player and team grades and ratings. They wasted an entire console generation portraying the NFL as if it’s 1995. They need to take gamer feedback and use it not just consider it.


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                    As long as the NFL has a say, which they have the biggest day of anyone, they will never get rid of the "old NFL terminology."

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                    • bigbob
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 10471

                      #55
                      Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                      Originally posted by Ragnar84
                      If you took away all the official NFL and team logos and NFLPA official player names what would people think?
                      AAA game developer or a lower tier game developer?


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                      Compared to the other football games that have tried to come out? AAA Developer.

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                      • Falcon17000
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 346

                        #56
                        Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                        Originally posted by bigbob
                        Compared to the other football games that have tried to come out? AAA Developer.

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                        Seriously. Look at Backbreaker or Blitz the League. Madden sure as hell isn't perfect, but people are going way overboard with the hyperbole.

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                        • Ragnar84
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2018
                          • 259

                          #57
                          Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                          Originally posted by bigbob
                          As long as the NFL has a say, which they have the biggest day of anyone, they will never get rid of the "old NFL terminology."

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                          Which is ironic considering the NG data that is on their website and that they use on SNF. maybe they needs a new commissioner


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                          • slingblade73
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 381

                            #58
                            Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                            If you start in Week 1 I did not see the option to hire/fire scouts. May not matter, but I though you had the choice in week 1.

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                            • bigbob
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 10471

                              #59
                              Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                              Originally posted by slingblade73
                              If you start in Week 1 I did not see the option to hire/fire scouts. May not matter, but I though you had the choice in week 1.
                              I believe it is week one of the preseason that the option is there for sure, although it should probably be there year round.

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                              • ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 4682

                                #60
                                Re: Things missing from Scouting Update

                                Originally posted by slingblade73
                                If you start in Week 1 I did not see the option to hire/fire scouts. May not matter, but I though you had the choice in week 1.
                                Haven't tried it. In previous Maddens, tasks were usually done on that week if you started a new coach in a Franchise.




                                It shouldn't matter too much, though, because I believe you can still set your scouts in Week 2. Maybe not. I haven't tried it yet. So maybe I'll just go to slepen.
                                Originally posted by Therebelyell626
                                I am going to create a team called "the happy town fundament rapscallions" and hurt your already diminishing image
                                https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2049813056

                                Last edited by your mom; 06-06-2006 at 6:06 PM.

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