Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[Likwidkewl]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

About sliders in general and specifically the upcoming CPU sliders... If a scale of 0 to 100 is used shouldn't 50 be where the players play exactly to their attributes then as the slider is lowered they play a bit worse or if it is raised the play a bit above their abilities?

[stux]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Ian, do you think it is possible to add inury sliders to the DLC?

I would pay a few bucks for that!

I never seem to get more then one or two major injuries a year. But I guess I have only simmed into second season once and played into mid of the first.

Well my little guy is sleeping I am going to sim a few seasons and see how everything goes.

[boooey]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I agree with most of what you are saying here. I think they should still release the same date but get more people invlovled in the testing at a earlier date.

I also think it is sad that even after the 2nd patch franchise mode won't work right for the people who are crashing. I am not sure with the crashing if that is related to modified rosters or NCAA draft classes. I hope a "work around" if available soon for that if the patch won't be.

I know those of you that only play online or with friend do not care about the franchise patch but there are a lot of us that buy the game only to play franchise mode vs CPU. I do not think it is fair of you to say we can't speak out minds.

I also agree, and its not just about fixing Madden 09.. its also about identifying how this can happen in the first place, and making sure it does not happen again.

There are some tough questions we should be able to ask Ian, and EA needs to be accountable for the product they put out.

That is all I am saying.. I am not trying to start any trouble here.

[Blue_Monkey]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

TJ,

I have seen you post about being upset about your franchise freezing. I believe everyone should be able to say what they think should have been and what was addressed in the patch. That is the topic of this post.

Furthermore, I do not think the tone of everyone's post were pissing and moaning. I think some people are trying to say hey good job on this patch but we still need to fix a few more things and a major issue in the franchise mode. Also, it really would have been nice to have everything working on the CD and if not we kind of expect it to be fixed before moving on to 2010.

Lastly, we need to discuss the problems if we are going to get them fixed. The squeeky wheel gets the greese.

I do agree with you that some people may post in a rather immature manner but sometimes you just loose your cool.

We need to discuss the good and the bad if the game and EA are going to progress. And if we can't discuss the bad then all you will have is a long post, way to go!, that a boy!, etc.

Just my thoughts man.

All that is fairly obvious and just about everyone knows the point of your post and agrees with it.

But the point of TJ's post was that this thread isn't a patch wishlist or the basic "EA does this and this wrong" thread. I'm sure Ian won't be taking any of these posts into consideration since the patch content is already announced and if we get the DLC too, that'll be 3 patches.

I'd like several things to be in that won't be but having said that, this is the first time Madden has ever seen actual real patching so at the momemt, I'm grateful.

[stoncold32]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

yea man... I hope you cranked it up as we want to see that ish.

Crank that Field Degradation!

[JayD]

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Wow! I cant belive that you guys fixed as much as you did and fit it all into one patch!!! Very excited for the game post patch!!!

[swanlee]

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All that is fairly obvious and just about everyone knows the point of your post and agrees with it.

But the point of TJ's post was that this thread isn't a patch wishlist or the basic "EA does this and this wrong" thread. I'm sure Ian won't be taking any of these posts into consideration since the patch content is already announced and if we get the DLC too, that'll be 3 patches.

I'd like several things to be in that won't be but having said that, this is the first time Madden has ever seen actual real patching so at the momemt, I'm grateful.

Well if Ian and the mods here did NOT expect some discussion on some other issues that need to be fixed in a thread like this then they just should have posted Ian's comments and locked the thread.

The logical course of discussion in a thread like this is to cover some of the bug\feautres that are still missing or not addressed.

Otherwise lock the thread or just have one comment of "Thanks Ian From the OS forum" and then lock the thread.

[Likwidkewl]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

OR tone down the post processing effects...

Crank that Field Degradation!

[Gizmo777]

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Good Lord. Some people are never happy!

Look at the list...it's damn impressive. Think of when you have ever had support like that from EA. Remember, last year with the fumbles, they denied it and then sent out a crappy patch. The year before, no fatigue and they waited until December to fix.

This year, 2 patches that fix alot and all within a month! The game is great right now and is going to be a classic after this next patch and (fingers crossed) DLC.

Thanks Ian and crew!

Can someone explain to me why there are so many people thanking Ian and EA for fixing things that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

Don't get me wrong. I do thank them for addressing the issues, but I am left with the feeling that the good will is misplaced.

It's like buying a new car and finding out it only comes with three wheels, then going back to the dealer two weeks later to get the fourth wheel and saying, "Man, you are so great for giving me that fourth wheel. Thanks. It's awesome."

The truth is, whether you want to admit it or not, the game should have never been released. All the things fixed in Patch #2 should have happened in pre-release, not in post release.

That is a fact.

[Blazelore]

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Can someone explain to me why there are so many people thanking Ian and EA for fixing things that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

Don't get me wrong. I do thank them for addressing the issues, but I am left with the feeling that the good will is misplaced.

It's like buying a new car and finding out it only comes with three wheels, then going back to the dealer two weeks later to get the fourth wheel and saying, "Man, you are so great for giving me that fourth wheel. Thanks. It's awesome."

The truth is, whether you want to admit it or not, the game should have never been released. All the things fixed in Patch #2 should have happened in pre-release, not in post release.

That is a fact.

QFT Cosigns Couldn't have said it better myself!

[ab2c4]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Can someone explain to me why there are so many people thanking Ian and EA for fixing things that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

Don't get me wrong. I do thank them for addressing the issues, but I am left with the feeling that the good will is misplaced.

It's like buying a new car and finding out it only comes with three wheels, then going back to the dealer two weeks later to get the fourth wheel and saying, "Man, you are so great for giving me that fourth wheel. Thanks. It's awesome."

The truth is, whether you want to admit it or not, the game should have never been released. All the things fixed in Patch #2 should have happened in pre-release, not in post release.

That is a fact.

Very well said and I totally agree. Part of the problem is that the game went Gold way back in June. They should have been using the extra time to test and fix as much as possible before it went Gold. They could have waited until August 1st before the game went Gold.

[aholbert32]

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Can someone explain to me why there are so many people thanking Ian and EA for fixing things that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

Don't get me wrong. I do thank them for addressing the issues, but I am left with the feeling that the good will is misplaced.

It's like buying a new car and finding out it only comes with three wheels, then going back to the dealer two weeks later to get the fourth wheel and saying, "Man, you are so great for giving me that fourth wheel. Thanks. It's awesome."

The truth is, whether you want to admit it or not, the game should have never been released. All the things fixed in Patch #2 should have happened in pre-release, not in post release.

That is a fact.

Because they didnt have to fix all of the things they did. They didnt have to add features like Accelerated Clock or CPU sliders. Plenty of people (including myself) are fine with the game post patch 1. Ive found workarounds for my major issues like Robo QB and CPU subbing and the game is pretty good for me. They could have just taken the money and started adding these features for 2010. And if they did that a large majority of you would still buy this game in 2010.

Also your car analogy is pretty weak. You cant drive a car w/ three wheels but this game is still playbale even with this bug

[Blazelore]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Because they didnt have to fix all of the things they did. They didnt have to add features like Accelerated Clock or CPU sliders. Plenty of people (including myself) are fine with the game post patch 1. Ive found workarounds for my major issues like Robo QB and CPU subbing and the game is pretty good for me. They could have just taken the money and started adding these features for 2010. And if they did that a large majority of you would still buy this game in 2010.

Also your car analogy is pretty weak. You cant drive a car w/ three wheels but this game is still playbale even with this bug

You are right! They didn't have to fix anything but nothing should have been broken in the first place!

[ab2c4]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Because they didnt have to fix all of the things they did. They didnt have to add features like Accelerated Clock or CPU sliders. Plenty of people (including myself) are fine with the game post patch 1. Ive found workarounds for my major issues like Robo QB and CPU subbing and the game is pretty good for me. They could have just taken the money and started adding these features for 2010. And if they did that a large majority of you would still buy this game in 2010.

Also your car analogy is pretty weak. You cant drive a car w/ three wheels but this game is still playbale even with this bug

To me having the game missing the cpu sliders really is the same as having a car that is missing the 4th tire: the game is not playable offline vs cpu and the car can't be driven. I know my copy of Madden has been collecting dust while it waits for the cpu sliders being added back in.

I think it comes down to this: the hardcore sim players need all the features and we need them to work properly. If you are a casual arcade video football gamer then the game probably does seem fine to you with the work arounds that somewhat fix the problems.

[ScottD413]

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This is rediculous! Robo QB and lack of a pass rush aren't being addressed??

I highly doubt that the DLC will ever be released. When it doesn't go live EA can just say, "well it's microsoft's fault, we wanted to release CPU sliders." I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Why isn't CPU clock management being addressed?? This completely ruins the single player experience! Thanks for nothing EA!