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  • Tweeg
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 1414

    #226
    Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

    OMG You guys fixed progression? We shall see I guess...but I reallllyyy hope so because this game does seem very good on the field.
    Prototype Supreme

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    • BIGROC
      Pro
      • Aug 2003
      • 766

      #227
      Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

      Originally posted by edubbs
      It's a shame fatigue could not be addressed.
      the fatigue was explained...and you could always up the auto sub % to have more frequent subs automatically, or do them yourself with the (Y) button in play calling screen.
      Commissioner of the Donkey Punch Sports Leagues -,
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      • sram444
        Rookie
        • Aug 2008
        • 78

        #228
        Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

        this is a dumb question but ill ask it anyway.. and sorry if it was already answered.

        when the patch comes out we will have to restart our franchise in order for the fixes to work in franchise mode? i already know the answer but was hoping to be wrong....


        thanks

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        • edubbs
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 2099

          #229
          Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

          Originally posted by BIGROC
          the fatigue was explained...and you could always up the auto sub % to have more frequent subs automatically, or do them yourself with the (Y) button in play calling screen.

          I know it was explained.

          However, defenders DO NOT fatigue in this game and I like to utilize the run game to wear down defenses. This strategy will not be possible this year because of the lack of fatigue.

          Also, I really do not see the difference between poor defensive teams against the run vs. good defensive teams against the run because defenders do not tire.

          It makes teams like the Bengals as tough as the Ravens or Vikings to run against, which should never be the case.

          It's too tough to establish a consistent run game against the CPU since defenders do not tire as they should.

          That's why it's dissapointing to see that a fix will not be added via patch.

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          • whosgotcha
            R**k**
            • Dec 2002
            • 631

            #230
            Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

            Looking forward to the patch. Hope that the DLC will come through also. Audibles on the fly would make it complete.

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            • xV3L0CiTY
              Rookie
              • Jul 2008
              • 364

              #231
              Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

              Originally posted by countryboy
              These things here, along with hopefully the inclusion of accelerated clock, have me so excited, as they were my biggest gripes with the game.
              Huh...no...did? He did!!!

              ATTN EVERYBODY: CB had/has gripes with Madden '09.

              Only joking...just said that because I haven't seen anything negative from you about '09.

              But seriously, if everything in the patch is fixed correctly and we get DLC...this will be the best Madden to date. Period. (My opinion of course).

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              • adembroski
                49ers
                • Jul 2002
                • 5825

                #232
                Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                Originally posted by Gizmo777
                Can someone explain to me why there are so many people thanking Ian and EA for fixing things that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.
                Because Ian didn't break them.
                There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                -Mark Twain.

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                • boooey
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 836

                  #233
                  Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                  Originally posted by adembroski
                  Because Ian didn't break them.
                  Just as people have the right to be happy and thank Ian.. there are others who paid $64 for a game that is not functioning for them, and in some extreme cases systems are getting bricked.

                  People have every right to be upset and vent a little bit, and present Ian with the tough questions they as consumers want answered.

                  Its totally justified and warranted in my opinion.

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                  • adembroski
                    49ers
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5825

                    #234
                    Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                    Originally posted by ab2c4
                    Does EA have a different process that they are held to than the other game companies because you always see other companies going gold about two weeks before the street release date.
                    You have diarrhea of the mouth, man, and you could use a slap. Quit talking about what you know nothing about.

                    If you had been paying attention at the time (or if you'd honestly read Padre's statemnet that you keep using to back you up) you'd realize that the date on which Madden "Went Gold" was not the date on which most companies would have made that statement.

                    The term "going gold" has no actual meaning tied too it. At least, none agreed upon by different developers or industry insiders. It can mean "The game is locked", "the game is ready for certification", or even "The game is ready for print" or "The game is ready to be shipped"... each of these involve VASTLY different time frames.

                    Madden must be completed, must go through internal testing, then it must be shipped to MS and Sony for their testing (at which point it's at the back of the line, btw, so it doesn't get tested the moment Sony and MS get a hold of it... patches take 2 weeks, a game is much bigger than a patch), there has to be a window to fix anything MS and Sony come up with then resubmit, then there's the final built, printing, and shipping.

                    The "gold" announcement was made in June when the product was locked for internal testing... most companies proclaim gold at the post-MS/Sony test when they've got their final build ready for print. Madden goes through the certification process every year and can say, with reasonable confidence, that they'll pass, because they know what MS and Sony are looking for. So they can say "gold" at a sooner time than other companies can.

                    So no, there was no more time to work, they worked until the last possible moment, but at some point, you have to start the process of getting it too the consumer.

                    Now, you've been educated. Stop making yourself look so damned ignorant.
                    There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                    The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                    The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                    -Mark Twain.

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                    • destroyer
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 258

                      #235
                      Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                      Originally posted by adembroski
                      You have diarrhea of the mouth, man, and you could use a slap. Quit talking about what you know nothing about.

                      If you had been paying attention at the time (or if you'd honestly read Padre's statemnet that you keep using to back you up) you'd realize that the date on which Madden "Went Gold" was not the date on which most companies would have made that statement.

                      The term "going gold" has no actual meaning tied too it. At least, none agreed upon by different developers or industry insiders. It can mean "The game is locked", "the game is ready for certification", or even "The game is ready for print" or "The game is ready to be shipped"... each of these involve VASTLY different time frames.

                      Madden must be completed, must go through internal testing, then it must be shipped to MS and Sony for their testing (at which point it's at the back of the line, btw, so it doesn't get tested the moment Sony and MS get a hold of it... patches take 2 weeks, a game is much bigger than a patch), there has to be a window to fix anything MS and Sony come up with then resubmit, then there's the final built, printing, and shipping.

                      The "gold" announcement was made in June when the product was locked for internal testing... most companies proclaim gold at the post-MS/Sony test when they've got their final build ready for print. Madden goes through the certification process every year and can say, with reasonable confidence, that they'll pass, because they know what MS and Sony are looking for. So they can say "gold" at a sooner time than other companies can.

                      So no, there was no more time to work, they worked until the last possible moment, but at some point, you have to start the process of getting it too the consumer.

                      Now, you've been educated. Stop making yourself look so damned ignorant.

                      Dang, there must not be much to do in FARGO huh? lol

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                      • adembroski
                        49ers
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5825

                        #236
                        Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                        Originally posted by boooey
                        Just as people have the right to be happy and thank Ian.. there are others who paid $64 for a game that is not functioning for them, and in some extreme cases systems are getting bricked.

                        People have every right to be upset and vent a little bit, and present Ian with the tough questions they as consumers want answered.

                        Its totally justified and warranted in my opinion.
                        I don't disagree. I was answering his question. Ian didn't break it. He wasn't on the team. We have a new lead designer, and a new producer... the two top spots... and they're working to correct mistakes of the previous regime. Personally, I'm a lot quicker to thank the new guys than blame them for the old groups problems.
                        There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                        The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                        The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                        -Mark Twain.

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                        • 03MstGT290
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 471

                          #237
                          Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                          If MS and Sony do not approve FREE DLC, I wouldn't mind paying for it.

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                          • BleacherCreature
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 3160

                            #238
                            Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                            Excuse my ignorance but what does "DLC" mean?
                            I'm a NY sports fan so I'm a tad slow.

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                            • boooey
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 836

                              #239
                              Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                              Originally posted by BleacherCreature
                              Excuse my ignorance but what does "DLC" mean?
                              I'm a NY sports fan so I'm a tad slow.
                              Downloadable Content

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                              • BleacherCreature
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 3160

                                #240
                                Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

                                Thanks. But how does this differ from a patch? You need to download either way. Unless you have the option for DLC?
                                Can you tell I'm new to the online game thing?

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