Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[Gizmo777]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Because they didnt have to fix all of the things they did. They didnt have to add features like Accelerated Clock or CPU sliders. Plenty of people (including myself) are fine with the game post patch 1. Ive found workarounds for my major issues like Robo QB and CPU subbing and the game is pretty good for me. They could have just taken the money and started adding these features for 2010. And if they did that a large majority of you would still buy this game in 2010.

Also your car analogy is pretty weak. You cant drive a car w/ three wheels but this game is still playbale even with this bug

Tell that to the people who can't play their franchise because of freezing, or have had their system fried by constantly having to reset following crashes.

[aholbert32]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Very well said and I totally agree. Part of the problem is that the game went Gold way back in June. They should have been using the extra time to test and fix as much as possible before it went Gold. They could have waited until August 1st before the game went Gold.

I love this board. People spout opinions about things they have no idea about.

The game went Gold on June 30th. The NFL and their release schedule mandates that the game must be released in mid August. Sports titles go Gold no later than three weeks before release. So the latest the game could have gone gold is July 15 and thats pushing it because if Sony or MS found a bug during certification there is a chance the release date could be pushed back by weeks. They had to go gold around that time to guarantee their release date.

[swanlee]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You are right! They didn't have to fix anything but nothing should have been broken in the first place!

Well Ian and company are certainly doing more than the previous lead designer of Madden.

But seriously we can't just excuse a broken game and one that is missing ALOT of features that were in last gen.

It's great they are fixing it but it's a REAL shame they had to fix it in the first place. It's great they are adding a lot of the sim oriented features after release but THESE FEATURES SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE GAME!!

At some point these things should ship WITH the game and not have to take dev cycles after the fact.

And I'm sorry if it takes away dev time from 2010 but tough crap, we just gave EA 60$, we deserve a complete and working game instead of always waiting till next year. The game was just released a couple of weeks ago, fix this game we just bought before moving onto 2010 or you may not get our money next year.

Sorry but taking dev time away from 2010 will just need to be done to give us what we need NOW in this game we just bought.

I'm enjoying this year's game, but I want more freakin camera angles to choose from and I have not heard one word about this issue from the devs in a couple of months.

So yes it's good Ian and company are doing more and yes it sucks that these things did not make it in the game.

[aholbert32]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Tell that to the people who can't play their franchise because of freezing, or have had their system fried by constantly having to reset following crashes.

That doesnt change my point. You act like this is the first game that ever had freezing problems. Multiple 2k, EA and Sony sports games have had issues like this and how did they fix them? They patched the game. Thats what EA is doing now. Like I said EA could have just fixed the freezes and moved on but they didnt and I think Ian deserves some credit fior that.

[Gizmo777]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

That doesnt change my point. You act like this is the first game that ever had freezing problems. Multiple 2k, EA and Sony sports games have had issues like this and how did they fix them? They patched the game. Thats what EA is doing now. Like I said EA could have just fixed the freezes and moved on but they didnt and I think Ian deserves some credit fior that.

Those games should have been tested better and not released with those bugs, too.
I do appreciate them patching it. As far as I'm concerned, it's the least they could do.

[ab2c4]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

I love this board. People spout opinions about things they have no idea about.

The game went Gold on June 30th. The NFL and their release schedule mandates that the game must be released in mid August. Sports titles go Gold no later than three weeks before release. So the latest the game could have gone gold is July 15 and thats pushing it because if Sony or MS found a bug during certification there is a chance the release date could be pushed back by weeks. They had to go gold around that time to guarantee their release date.

You really need to think a little more before saying things that don't make sense. The game went gold on June 25th which is a fact. Let's just assume you are correct in saying they need it to go gold three weeks before release date to meet the ship dates. That means the game didn't need to go gold until July 22nd. They could have had four MORE weeks to work on this game and fix most of the issues even before it went gold and this wouldn't be a problem now!

http://www.pastapadre.com/category/football/madden/page/4

[aholbert32]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

To me having the game missing the cpu sliders really is the same as having a car that is missing the 4th tire: the game is not playable offline vs cpu and the car can't be driven. I know my copy of Madden has been collecting dust while it waits for the cpu sliders being added back in.

I think it comes down to this: the hardcore sim players need all the features and we need them to work properly. If you are a casual arcade video football gamer then the game probably does seem fine to you with the work arounds that somewhat fix the problems.

A couple of points:

1) There are work arounds to the lack of CPU sliders. The dummy profile system works well and eliminated Robo QB and a poor CPU running game for me. Some people arent willing to do the little bit of work it takes to do the workaround but if you are a hardcore gamer you should be willing to do that.

2) Its silly to sit around w/ Madden and hope that they patch those features in while your game losing selling value. Two years ago, the game had the fatigue issue and EA promised a patch but didnt give a firm date. I hated the game w/o fatigue so instead of waiting for a patch that didnt come until October, I sold the game for 51 bucks on Ebay. If the DLC does come through then you can just as easily rent or rebuy the game at a reduced price on Ebay. Same thing last year with the turnovers.

3)I'm not a casual player but I'm not as hardcore as you guys. I dont care about the field degrading or hand towels or any of that ****. I care that it plays a solid game of football and with the workarounds it does.


You super hardcore guys are always going to get the short end of the stick. You wont be happy unless the game is super realistic and the game will never be super realistic because the super hardcore sim gamers make up a miniscule part of the market.

[boooey]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

guys,
for whatever reason, some some systems are being bricked by this game.
Just because some people are lucky, and its not happening to them doesn't mean its not a major issue.

to all those who are happy with the game right now. How would you feel if your ps3 or xbox 360 died from crashing over and over?

would you still take the same stance?

I personally have not experienced my PS3 being ruined by Madden, but I truly feel for those who have.
its not right , and I will not just dismiss this because I am personally not having this issue.

EA needs to be held to higher standards than this.. releasing an unfinished game is just not acceptable, or this will just happen again next year..

[stux]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Because they didnt have to fix all of the things they did. They didnt have to add features like Accelerated Clock or CPU sliders. Plenty of people (including myself) are fine with the game post patch 1. Ive found workarounds for my major issues like Robo QB and CPU subbing and the game is pretty good for me. They could have just taken the money and started adding these features for 2010. And if they did that a large majority of you would still buy this game in 2010.

Also your car analogy is pretty weak. You cant drive a car w/ three wheels but this game is still playbale even with this bug

That is because you aren't crashing every other game. Put yourself in my shoes and that of the people that can't get past franchise season 2 or 3 (that bought the game only for franchise mode). As nice as it is all of these other things were fixed/added, and believe me I am grateful of that,
franchise mode was broken for myself and a lot of other people in the state it was released in and patch 1 didn't fix it.

I appreciate the help from EA on the game crashing workaround (rebooting between everything that loads). This atleast lets me play it until the patch. But I am worried about the couple of years into my franchise that it is going to crash. I am starting to sim ahead to see what happens.

There is another crashing issue that makes me nervous but I haven't seen someone I completely trust post about it yet.

Again I want to stress I am grateful for the added fixes, progression was a huge one for me.

[coogrfan]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

You really need to think a little more before saying things that don't make sense. The game went gold on June 25th which is a fact. Let's just assume you are correct in saying they need it to go gold three weeks before release date to meet the ship dates. That means the game didn't need to go gold until July 22nd. They could have had four MORE weeks to work on this game and fix most of the issues even before it went gold and this wouldn't be a problem now!

http://www.pastapadre.com/category/f.../madden/page/4

Just a guess, but I'll bet those four weeks were needed for the MS/Sony cert process (and any possible necessary fixes that might result) and to allow for the manufacturing and distribution of the game.

[aholbert32]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

guys,
for whatever reason, some some systems are being bricked by this game.
Just because some people are lucky, and its not happening to them doesn't mean its not a major issue.

to all those who are happy with the game right now. How would you feel if your ps3 or xbox 360 died from crashing over and over?

would you still take the same stance?

I personally have not experienced my PS3 being ruined by Madden, but I truly feel for those who have.
its not right , and I will not just dismiss this because I am personally not having this issue.

EA needs to be held to higher standards than this.. releasing an unfinished game is just not acceptable, or this will just happen again next year..

I would be upset but I would have a warranty so I could just swap out the system.

[Smokez4DAyz]

Yeah, robo qb has to be fixed, they will just not take a sack, the AI QB throws two yard passes and passes into coverage, instead of eat the football, and they are rare drops by these receivers with double coverage. w'sup wit that?

[ab2c4]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

1) There are work arounds to the lack of CPU sliders. The dummy profile system works well and eliminated Robo QB and a poor CPU running game for me. Some people arent willing to do the little bit of work it takes to do the workaround but if you are a hardcore gamer you should be willing to do that.

I had read about that solution in the sliders thread. My problem with that is that it requires you to have two controllers and I only have one. I don't want to spend $50 to buy a second controller to be used just as a work around for a broken/unfinished game. If I had two controllers that would definitely be a really good home solution though.

[g2thecore]

Re: Two weeks of Madden 09, and OFFICIAL patch news!

Awesome news! Field degradation ftw! Woot! Thanks EA, you're the best! (sometimes )

[ab2c4]

Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

Just a guess, but I'll bet those four weeks were needed for the MS/Sony cert process (and any possible necessary fixes that might result) and to allow for the manufacturing and distribution of the game.

Does EA have a different process that they are held to than the other game companies because you always see other companies going gold about two weeks before the street release date.