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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23424

    #151
    Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

    Originally posted by Mr.Scarface
    This has to do with FIFA. EA wants Madden back at FIFA ( and NHL's ) level. FIFA is is being innovative and being praised for improvements each year (as is NHL). Sometimes fresh blood is needed. They brought in Cam to basically to be that Fresh Blood and he wants his people around him. Simple.
    The only way Madden will get to FIFA's level is if EA invest the same type of money they invest into FIFA into Madden. Plus they would have to do a whole new engine as well.

    New engine not going to happen for Madden and NCAA this generation. Not when the next 360/PS3 coming out in a couple years.

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    • big_larry
      Banned
      • Apr 2009
      • 573

      #152
      Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

      This goes to show you how crooked EA Sports is, as soon as somebody takes charge to make the product better, they get rid of them. Probably paid them off to not say anything. EA is all about making money, they don't care about the true fans anymore, they just care about getting more fans, I expect next years game to be on the arcade side. This happens with big bad company's all over America all the time, someone comes in to make a change for the better, then a few month down the road they are gone, because they are making the company loose money.
      Ive accepted that this gen of football gaming has been a total waste, gone down the drain, I do not have hope any more that Madden will ever pan out like I thought is would this gen. Ive have no good memories of playing this current gens Madden like I have playing Madden on PS2. Im looking forward to the next-gen of NFL football gaming, and I pray EA does not have an exclusive license, cause I looking forward to other football game developers like the makers of Backbreaker and of course 2k Sports taking over Madden like 2k took over NBA Live.
      Last edited by big_larry; 06-17-2011, 01:42 AM.

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      • dkp23
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 289

        #153
        Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

        Being with EA for 13 years shows he has put in hardwork and effort into the game. Im sure most are appreciative.

        Unfortunately, the game has become stale and with the addition of gimmicks year after year and having the same gameplay issues brought up year after year with no resolution have made fans turned off by the franchise. While it looks like the madden franchise is going in the "right direction, only time will tell since we've been hearing this for years.

        It will be good to get some new blood and revamp the madden franchise heading into the next generation of consoles. Not much can be done now as we are deep into this generation, but i hope we dont go through another next gen debacle we called madden 2006. After getting hyped by the draft day commercial and finally playing the game months later, that was the beginning of disappointment year after year.

        The madden franchise needs a brand new engine that will revolutionize football gaming and hopefully keep all the gameplay adjustments in addition to adding innovating ones. Unfortunately, those hopes were for this generation and it never came to fruition over the past six years.

        Focus on game play, physics, realism. Less gimmicks and arcade like game play and features.
        Last edited by dkp23; 06-17-2011, 01:43 AM.

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        • sportzbro
          MVP
          • May 2008
          • 3892

          #154
          Re: Phil Frazier the Latest to Leave EA Sports Tiburon Studio

          wtf is happening @ tiburon?

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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22893

            #155
            Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

            Originally posted by big_larry
            This goes to show you how crooked EA Sports is, as soon as somebody takes charge to make the product better, they get rid of them. Probably paid them off to not say anything. EA is all about making money, they don't care about the true fans anymore, they just care about getting more fans, I expect next years game to be on the arcade side. This happens with big bad company's all over America all the time, someone comes in to make a change for the better, then a few month down the road they are gone, because they are making the company loose money.
            Ive accepted that this gen of football gaming has been a total waste, gone down the drain, I do not have hope any more that Madden will ever pan out like I thought is would this gen. Ive have no good memories of playing this current gens Madden like I have playing Madden on PS2. Im looking forward to the next-gen of NFL football gaming, and I pray EA does not have an exclusive license, cause I looking forward to other football game developers like the makers of Backbreaker and of course 2k Sports taking over Madden like 2k took over NBA Live.
            If I am not mistaken, Phil was the one who left EA, EA didn't kick Phil out....
            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


            ― Plato

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            • RedZoneD25
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 2963

              #156
              Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

              Wow, did I miss a bombshell or what. The one day I'm not on OS, this happens. Insane. Best of luck to Phil, he's a good guy.

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              • convince
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 724

                #157
                Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                Originally posted by Ian_Cummings
                For me it was about doing something different. I worked on one game IP for 10 years. Though there were things we could have done differently in hindsight, I felt like after taking the reins (with Phil) I had gotten the Madden ship at least facing in the right direction of trying to build a true sim and getting away from rings and weapons and virtual trainers and all that other bullsh!t, and I felt like I had a lot more ideas in games that I wanted to try and work on.

                Also, define 'respect from the community' lol. A simple search on my name will return nothing but venom, whether it's the mainstream industry giving me no respect because I work on a sports game, or dudes making youtube videos about how I was a liar, or pinning all of the problems in their life on me. I was sick as hell of that sh*t too.
                Wow ten years! But wasn't weapons in Madden 08 and just last year gameflow, which was more aim towards casual fans? Well anyway, being a Madden developer comes with both pro and cons. "Guys pinning all of the problems in their life on you" you putting a tad bit much on it. Just like being a player of someone's favorite football team. Sometime's we are extremely hard to please. But sorry to see you guys go but you seem to be landing on your feet so good luck to you.
                GT Agent August
                Xbox/Playstation

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                • aTTckr
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 259

                  #158
                  Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                  It won't matter much for Madden 12 but I'm really starting to worry about Madden 13 and forward. Anyhow best of luck in your future job Phil.

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                  • Palo20
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3908

                    #159
                    Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                    AJ will be lead designer in no time.

                    OS FTW!


                    Twitter: @Palo50
                    @PFF_Steve

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                    • PantherBeast_OS
                      RKO!!
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 6636

                      #160
                      Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                      Both Phil and Ian was a big part of Madden12 making this year. Both will be missed alot. Hope they have good luck in both of their lives. Guys thanks alot for the good time. You both will be missed. But I'm sure Madden future is in good hands with Kane699 and Adem working with EA aswell. Yes Phil and Ian are both gone now. But Madden will be good to go for years to come.

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                      • sportzbro
                        MVP
                        • May 2008
                        • 3892

                        #161
                        Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                        Originally posted by Steve_OS
                        Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone.
                        dear god no. that would be the end for me.

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                        • Segagendude
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7940

                          #162
                          Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                          This sucks.

                          Just when Madden was finally turning the corner, the team is breaking up.

                          Who knows what the next guys will bring? Will they come from some kiddie game or what? Will Madden become stagnant, or even take a step backward?

                          And Phil's leaving for possibly Zynga? You kidding me?? Leave EA Madden for frickin Farmville?????

                          Oh well. Been a nice run, but M12 may be it for me.

                          Thanks Ian and Phil for turning the franchise around.
                          Damn...

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                          • sroz39
                            The Man!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2802

                            #163
                            Until proven otherwise (and I hope strongly I'm wrong) losing Ian and Phil is nothing but bad news. Starting with 10, we FINALLY had a game (and dev team) headed in the right direction on this gen of consoles. And just as things seem to be fully coming together with 12? Who knows what the future holds now for this game.

                            I still remember in the spring/summer of '09, coming on here just to lurk mainly, but looking for Ian's posts to hopefully see the latest "little" additions to the game. Sometimes it seemed like he was adding these things behind the EA marketing guys' backs, like he was letting us in on some secret thing he cooked up in his lab overnight lol. I know that's crazy talk but it was a special summer for me as a semi-veteran member of these forums, having a freakin' Madden game shaped by some of OUR wants on little ol' OS.

                            Best of luck to you both. I'm sure the silent majority on here appreciates everything you guys did and hope you can "hear" us over the vocal minority spewing nonsense.

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                            • btemp
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 160

                              #164
                              Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                              Mr. Cummings complaining about people saying bad things about on the internet is akin to complaining the sky is blue. It should be water off a ducks back. With luck, this post will be case in point.

                              I'm happy to see Ian and Phil go because to me they play a significant role in the crap that has occurred year after year on next gen. I may be wrong, I know next to nothing on EA's inner workings and am not in any way invested enough to find out (I've discovered, to my great and everlasting chagrin, that not enough people are concerned when they displease me - thus my displeasure is forever wasted).

                              Unfortunately, while Madden 12 appears to be what I've wanted Madden to be for years I fail to understand how people can place faith in a game that they have not played based on reviews from sites that rarely have little bad to say. Fool me once and all that nonsense. Luckily, if Madden 12 actually turns out to be amazing and then Madden 13 etc. returns to the dark years, I"ll delete this post and tearfully claim how I always lamented the loss of Ian and Phil!

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                              • GGEden
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 228

                                #165
                                Re: Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

                                Why can't EA use Frostbite2 engine on Madden 13? Frostbite2 makes animation transitions so seamless and lifelike, people moving about realistically. Can anyone with understanding explain.
                                Kilroy was here

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