I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Is there any negative effect of doing this during the pre-season of your first year? Also, for teams that already have a "Franchise Quarterback", can I reduce their priority to 50 without anything bad happening? Thanks.

Well, the obvious negative effect is that you don't know what will happen in the offseason. You may set the slidings one way thinking that a team will or won't have a certain QB, and then be surprised in the offseason. I do it immediately before each draft, so that progression, re-signings, and FA are done. It IS possible (and likely) that the sliders are affecting the free agency.

Can someone explain where to setup this coaching strategy? is it done only in the off season when you control all 32 teams?

Thanks

You can do it any time, but as I mention above, I find right before the draft to be best. I MIGHT do it before the free agency, and then update again right before the draft.

One thing I'd like to suggest (I haven't tested this so I have NO idea if it will work), but my idea is that after you set all these priorities, you should find the teams that you think need to draft a specific position in the first or second round.

Now, once you go to these teams, change all the priorities for every position (besides kickers and punters, obviously) to 90 EXCEPT for the position they need. Keep this position at 100.

So if the Raiders need to take a QB, you would set every position to 90 priority except for QB.

If someone would try this and tell me if it works, that would be terrific!

As I've said before, the more settings you can have at 100, the less likely a punter/kicker will be taken in the first round. However, if you would test this, I'd be very interested in the outcome. I'm working on a couple other projects right now. Let me know how it works out! (I can tell you figuring out each team's need takes longer than you probably think)

Just a question in these drafts you've done have there been any differences by playbook like 3-4s aiming more for linebackers than a 4-3, a run heavy offense drafting hbs teams drafting according to a 4-3 end 3-4 linebacker etc.

I haven't specifically tracked this, but I'm thinking not.

[dpmx21]

When u say coaching strategy is that actually the coaching scheme? Also, if this is the case, the only priority I see is for kickers. There is nothing for punters. Am I missing something?

[TMJOHNS18]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Testing this out right now and I like it. Started 32 team chise and now I'm testing it once you switch just to a single team. Notice too that on coach resignings year 1 retained the priorities of previous coaches (not sure if this will happen year 2 after controlling only 1 team).

Rnd 1 draft, had Luck and Weeden rated Top 5, Bulter (P) 1st round grade. Heres now the top of the drafted panned out:

1 - Bengals (Dalton rated 74 but he's future qb) - HB Marc Tyler
2 - Bucs (Franchise Freeman) - DT Jaye Howard
3 - Miami (Need QB) Weeden
4 - Buff (Got qb in FA) - RT Lawrence
5 - Rams (Franchise Bradford) - OLB Bruce Taylor

9 - SF (Need qb of futre) - Andrew Luck

Got to my pick, 14 overall, and QB's Lindley, Jones, Davis with Top 10 grades still available and HB Polk Top 10 still available.

Simmed to my next pick in round 2 (don't know if it affects what CPU chooses/trades) Davis QB and Butler P still available at pick 14 2nd rnd.

Round 3, same two still available and Kellen Moore with 2nd round grade still there at round 3 pick 14. Round 4, Davis and Butler are gone, Moore still available.

Round 7, just a handful of punter's and kicker's taken. QB's Moniz (5th), Crist (6th), and Tannehill (6th) are still hanging around.

I set all Punters and Kickers to 0. Teams with QB's with Future/Franchise at 0. Teams with no long term QB's at 100. Teams like the Colts with aging, but good vet Qb's (high enough to not get started over by a rookie) at 20.

Going to sim ahead year 2 and see how draft class works and if CPU keeps the priorities when you use only 1 team after first off season. Though once I start my long term Franchise I'll most likely be only using 1 year of draft classes.

Here's an overview of the QB drafted:

Bills - Landry Jones Rnd 2
Chargers - Russell Wilson Rnd 7
Colts - Ryan Tannehill Rnd 7
Cowboys - Case Keenum Rnd 7
Dolphins -Brandon Weeden Rnd 1
Falcons - Dayne Christ Rnd 7
SF - Andrew Luck Rnd 1, they have Palmer at 83 and Luck shows 72?, guess Luck is Future qb
Gaints - Dominique Davis Rnd 3
Packers - Bryant Moniz Rnd 7
Panthers (me) - Kellen Moore Rnd 4, trying to be like the Pats and turn a 4th rounder (grade 2nd rnd) into a valuable trade player
Raiders - EJ Manuel Rnd 7
Rams - Darron Thomas Rnd 5
Redskins - Nick Foles Rnd 7
Vikings - Ryan Lindley Rnd 1

Overall seemed to draft Qb's well, though Raiders and Redskins have mediocre Qb's at best before the draft, which is nice to see them not address the QB (even though they had 100 priority) and go into the season with no clear starter. And even though there were many Rnd 7 Qb's taken, since there are no "sleepers" in NCAA classes I guess it works itself out.

[TMJOHNS18]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Just to add to above, I simmed through year 2 only controlling 1 team and once again only a couple K/P's where taken and some QB's hung around for 1-3 rnds past their projection, though this draft had a pretty weak QB class when it comes to their projections.

What teams drafted a QB and in what round:

Bears - 7
Bronocs - UDFA Barrett Trotter
Browns - 7
Colts - 3
Packers - 4
Redskins - 4
Saints - 7
Seahawks - 4, 7
Eagles - 7 (D. Robinson, goes well with having Vick)
Steelers - UDFA Ryan katz
Titans - 7

Pretty cool seeing some teams pickup up the leftover QB's from the draft as undrafted free agents. Both the Bronoco's and Steeler's had solid starters (Orton/Rot), but only had 1 QB each.

Not sure how long these priorities will last for those who switch to a single team but only a couple of the teams who drafted a QB this draft had a 100 priority, the rest waited and drafted late for depth.

[WhiteMan22]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

My question still is how does this affect the players in Madden though?

Since NCAA has their issues with the tenedecies and all, will Luck have like 85+ speed since he is a "scrambler" in NCAA?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

As I've said before, the more settings you can have at 100, the less likely a punter/kicker will be taken in the first round. However, if you would test this, I'd be very interested in the outcome. I'm working on a couple other projects right now. Let me know how it works out! (I can tell you figuring out each team's need takes longer than you probably think)




I haven't specifically tracked this, but I'm thinking not.

To the bold, I'd be glad to test this. And actually, to me I don't think it would take too much time to figure out a team's specific needs. Some teams obviously need a QB, some obviously need a HB, etc. I'm just looking to set this up so that the team fills it's most glaring, important need in the first round, as long as there is a good enough player available when it's their pick.

In response to the question about 3-4 coaches looking for different LBs and DEs than 4-3 coaches, my guess would be that YES they do look for different things!

Why do I say yes? Well, because in the screen where you set the priority for each position, there is also a slider that sets the priority for what type of player at that position you want.

For QBs there's a slider for "pocket/balanced/scrambler", for DE there's a slider for "pass rusher/balanced/run stopper", etc. 3-4 coaches should (if they don't already) have their sliders for DE and OLB set to run stopper and pass-rusher, respectively.

[LivingLegend]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

My question still is how does this affect the players in Madden though?

Since NCAA has their issues with the tenedecies and all, will Luck have like 85+ speed since he is a "scrambler" in NCAA?

I thought they patched the players play styles changing on their own in NCAA?

Even so, you can just change Lucks speed, everyone will get a different version of Luck in their respective draft class.

[imskykid]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

When u say coaching strategy is that actually the coaching scheme? Also, if this is the case, the only priority I see is for kickers. There is nothing for punters. Am I missing something?

You need to switch over to where you adjust their defensive scheme... then you will be able to adjust priorities for defensive players and punter.

[LivingLegend]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

You need to switch over to where you adjust their defensive scheme... then you will be able to adjust priorities for defensive players and punter.

Wait a minute, I just looked over my file and realized I forgot to do this for the Bears. That has to be why they took the Punter like they did in my draft.

[volsman]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Is there anyway someone can post exactly what to do now to have the most realistic franchis all in one post. How to handle cuts at first of season. How many teams to control. When to switch to 32 teams. What to scout. How to get computer to draft according to real life? Thanks for all your work

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

When u say coaching strategy is that actually the coaching scheme? Also, if this is the case, the only priority I see is for kickers. There is nothing for punters. Am I missing something?

Yeah, it's the coaching scheme. You have to hit a button...L2, maybe?...to switch to defense for each team. That's where the punters are hiding.

Just to add to above, I simmed through year 2 only controlling 1 team and once again only a couple K/P's where taken and some QB's hung around for 1-3 rnds past their projection, though this draft had a pretty weak QB class when it comes to their projections.

What teams drafted a QB and in what round:

Bears - 7
Bronocs - UDFA Barrett Trotter
Browns - 7
Colts - 3
Packers - 4
Redskins - 4
Saints - 7
Seahawks - 4, 7
Eagles - 7 (D. Robinson, goes well with having Vick)
Steelers - UDFA Ryan katz
Titans - 7

Pretty cool seeing some teams pickup up the leftover QB's from the draft as undrafted free agents. Both the Bronoco's and Steeler's had solid starters (Orton/Rot), but only had 1 QB each.

Not sure how long these priorities will last for those who switch to a single team but only a couple of the teams who drafted a QB this draft had a 100 priority, the rest waited and drafted late for depth.

Thanks for posting these. If I understand correctly, you controlled all 32 teams, set the draft priorities, and then switched to just one team for future years? Glad to see the priorities are retained (if that's the case)...but what happens when they should be dropped? Dalton won't be a future star QB for ever of course, and Manning/Brady will eventually retire, etc. Yet the teams aren't smart enough to figure this out. That's why...at least until we ever get an official patch...I retain control of all 32 teams.

My question still is how does this affect the players in Madden though?

Since NCAA has their issues with the tenedecies and all, will Luck have like 85+ speed since he is a "scrambler" in NCAA?

I can't think of any reason that this would affect actual players. All it does is affect the draft and free agency logic, as far as I know. It's not changing anyone's actual stats.

Is there anyway someone can post exactly what to do now to have the most realistic franchis all in one post. How to handle cuts at first of season. How many teams to control. When to switch to 32 teams. What to scout. How to get computer to draft according to real life? Thanks for all your work

I'm sure somebody could put all those posts together as long as each original author was credited...but there's a couple problems with the idea.

1) The original authors, including myself, are ridiculously busy trying to fix our little sections of Madden (the draft, the cut logic, whatever) in addition to having our real lives. If you'd like to volunteer though, I'm sure we'd all be happy to have the suggestions in one place.

2) Conflicting suggestions. Some people advocate using random number generator for cuts. Others have set OVRs or POTs they look at. Before I became obsessed with fixing the draft, I preferred to really look at each individual position for each individual team. Then the draft itself...my biggest priority is making sure kickers and punters aren't taken early, and future star QB teams aren't taking QBs in the top ten. Others want to make sure teams take a LOLB when they should, even if that means the kickers/punters come fast and early. There is no consensus, only opinions and recommendations.

[goravens2052]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Does anyone know how to find out which Quarterbacks have the role of "Franchise QB" because I can't seem to find it anywhere.

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

Player roles. It's in the "team" section of the menu, within the game. I don't think you can access it outside of franchise.

[jcc309]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I am curious as to what you do with teams that have a very good QB without a role. Houston and Dallas come to mind. Both have very good quarterbacks but no roles. Currently I have them at 0 priority. What do you guys have it at?

[Actinguy1]

Re: I Fixed the Imported Draft! (No P/K in first round, no Carolina taking a QB)

I have them at 100. With all of the priorities at 100 (except kicker and punter)...they'll take the best available that actually fills a need. That might be backup QB, but it will more likely be a different position.

What are your results with setting them at 0? Are punters/kickers going early?