Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

[PacMan3000]

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Wow, I totally agree with you! Exactly to the T.

Everyone is so caught up about how the players run, and the true step, but the fact of the matter remains that players in Madden don't walk like real people. They don't jog like real people. They don't sprint like real people. And they certainly don't run like real people. And all of that stuff goes into play when it comes to the immersion factor in the game.

One little thing I always like in 2k was how speed and weight always came into play for the gamer. So if you caught a long pass and no one is around you, your player would slowly ease up on his speed, almost to a jog, and then look around and slowly walk in for a touchdown with smug joy.

Is that something that's gonna make or break sales? No, but it looks and feels real. And as someone else aptly said here recently, realism = fun.

Yes that is beautiful bro..these are the kind of animations we should have next gen...

Another thing i absolutely HATE about madden are the animations of players on the field AFTER the whistle blows....when the whistle blows its like all animations cease to exist and suddenly these super generic robot pivot animations come in tow play...it sticks out like a SORE THUMB that it totally ruins the atmosphere of Madden. Why cannot these developers simply "get it"??

These small things make such a HUGE HUGE difference. I mean someone posted a clip of APF2k8 and you clearly see how in that game after the whistle blows if a player is running full speed and suddenly the play is over and the whistle blows..the player seamlessly goes from the in-game running animation into a nice smooth jogging or smooth walking animation in which the player jogs or walks back to the huddle for the next play (in a natural looking way)...it is EXACTLY THIS that totally hampers the visual fidelity of Madden and they have NO EXCUSE for not fixing this because of say...current gen console limitations because All Pro Football 2k8 did it so good...so if they could do it on xbox 360 hardware that is dated as heck.. obviously there is a "malfunction" going on with the aptitude of these Tiburon dev's if they cannot see this sticking out as a sore thumb...it truly is an eye sore!

[ruttentud]

Well, first look at the video, I see something that looks wonky. The KC game, 4th video down. #21 on the defense. He gets into his zone and is in the middle of an animation when the ball is thrown. The animation just gets cut off and he goes into another one.
These videos look better than current-gen, but SHOW us that defenders are smart. Prove to us that the sliders work better now and that penalties aren't screwed up.

[NicVirtue]

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Just leaving this slowed down version of the gameplay trailer here. In slow-mo you get a good look at the players feet, and how it appears to be zero weight on them, planting into the ground. Looks more like a hummingbird, but not too noticeable at full speed.

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[PantherBeast_OS]

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Just leaving this slowed down version of the gameplay trailer here. In slow-mo you get a good look at the players feet, and how it appears to be zero weight on them, planting into the ground. Looks more like a hummingbird, but not too noticeable at full speed.

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Who in the world called for Dark Vader on this video. LOL Bro everything looks different when a video is speed up or in slow mo. Looks better in normal speed. You can't really base anything on slow mo to be quite honest. That's just my opinion tho.

[NicVirtue]

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Who in the world called for Dark Vader on this video. LOL Bro everything looks different when a video is speed up or in slow mo. Looks better in normal speed. You can't really base anything on slow mo to be quite honest. That's just my opinion tho.

I could have sworn I muted that thing xD apologies. But what I see when I slow it down, just like the other gameplay footage, is weightless foot planting, much like current gen. They go through the motions, but it doesn't really look like they weigh anything at all when making these moves. That's just what I've been seeing, consistently.

[sk]

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Who in the world called for Dark Vader on this video. LOL Bro everything looks different when a video is speed up or in slow mo. Looks better in normal speed. You can't really base anything on slow mo to be quite honest. That's just my opinion tho.

Somewhere, George Lucas is shaking his head.

[ForUntoOblivionSoar∞]

My only issue here is that not all offensive lines are created equally. Some are very cohesive. Some are full of people experienced in the system. Some aren't. Some can be exploited mentally. Some physically. I hope this variety is in there, but subtly so.

[BizDevConglomerate]

Honestly, when I watched these videos I kept saying to myself that these are things that should've been implemented five years ago on the current GEN systems. I still can't get over the NBA 2K 14 footage and just don't want to settle for mediocrity. We've been settling for just a mediocre NFL experience for the last eight years now if not longer. I just refuse to pay good money to play this garbage any longer EA is incapable of capturing the NFL experience like 2k did eight years ago.

Thank you.

[BizDevConglomerate]

Honestly, when I watched these videos I kept saying to myself that these are things that should've been implemented five years ago on the current GEN systems. I still can't get over the NBA 2K 14 footage and just don't want to settle for mediocrity. We've been settling for just a mediocre NFL experience for the last eight years now if not longer. I just refuse to pay good money to play this garbage any longer EA is incapable of capturing the NFL experience like 2k did eight years ago.

Although this is football, seeing what's going to happen with the new gen games, I can't help but get frustrated that if only one company makes the game why isn't it outstanding. I cool off till I see another company pull off what I always expected could be. I. E. The show, why is t all of EA games that nice to look at?, or 2k depth, and gameplay, why isn't EA coming close to realism. After watching Marchmadness tonight. I felt like damn. I can't even Play college and use Duke or Wiggins. This is crazy how they don't produce what the ppl want. Then what they do produce is lackluster. Overhypee and always looking toward next year. Instead put the game out in intervals and support it through DLC. If you can release games digitally, you can support through DLC. IT'S BULL. oh. It's bull. College games are necessary cuz you see cats 1-4 years. Undefeated seasons, records and most of all. David vs.Goliath, or A Super 5 star kid every once in a while. EA is knocking down buildings in BF4 but in Madden and Live the games look and play so far from the real possibilities. We have to take it cuz no one else is making the game. This is wack as ....

[TalenT]

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Somewhere, George Lucas is shaking his head.

And I along with him. The hell is "Dark Vader"? Lol

[Supersonic_BR]

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Love the war in the trenches part, but they really need to completely rebuild dropback and throwing animations.

[MrBlackThumbz]

One thing I still notice is the touchdown celebrations still look stiff and the player is always alone with everybody else blured out eh

[simfballcritic]

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[Cold_Fries]

Re: Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

Just leaving this slowed down version of the gameplay trailer here. In slow-mo you get a good look at the players feet, and how it appears to be zero weight on them, planting into the ground. Looks more like a hummingbird, but not too noticeable at full speed.

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Bro, I swear to you, I thought I was the only one seeing that!! It's almost like they are hovering over the grass but not really. Like their feet aren't going into the ground like a real life human being would. Almost like it's no gravity pulling him to the ground.. Soo glad someone can verify that I'm not trippin!

[radatdude2]

Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

Its just sad even in next gen we are still dealing with basic issues with madden such as running. Video evidence still displays to this day signs of tron jogging, humming bird movements, floating, and skating not good. Other games have already established the basic fundamentals and shift focus towards more detail oriented aspects of their game. It's just difficult to get excited about a fundamental part of the game they claim is fixed by calling it something new buzzword true-step, only to see its actually not. This should have been done on current gen and now this is taking up so much of their development and we still haven't seen the things we actually need this far into gaming gang tackling, wr/db interactions, player specific animations, correct qb drop-backs, release points Just to name a few. And while the new blocking shows signs of improvement many legacy issues are still present.


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