Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

[burnwood]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Yeah but dunelly is also right. There is a problem with the RBs being too powerful. I definately call the right plays and I'm able to contain a lot of big gains. However, there have been lots of times where Earl Cambell has broken tackle after tackle after tackle. One game all this guy did was pitch left, pitch right, pitch left, pitch right... Earl Cambell NEVER got fatigued and was in on every offensive play. My opponent played 4 down football on every possession. Needless to say I don't play anyone online who uses Earl.

So, don't try to discredit every cry against super RBs, because it's a cop out to the real flaw.

[HotShot232]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Yeah but dunelly is also right. There is a problem with the RBs being too powerful. I definately call the right plays and I'm able to contain a lot of big gains. However, there have been lots of times where Earl Cambell has broken tackle after tackle after tackle. One game all this guy did was pitch left, pitch right, pitch left, pitch right... Earl Cambell NEVER got fatigued and was in on every offensive play. My opponent played 4 down football on every possession. Needless to say I don't play anyone online who uses Earl.

So, don't try to discredit every cry against super RBs, because it's a cop out to the real flaw.

I agree i think campbell is the ONLY back that should be nerfed some. I posted a topic on his REAL stats compared to a league season stats with him and he just SLAUGHTER his real stats. he breaks to may tackles is his ONLY problem. Other backs = no problem

[Sven Draconian]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

While I don't doubt I could improve my playcalling....

But I have people in the spot. Thats the point of playcalling isn't it, getting people at the point of attack. Well, I have them there....they just get trucked.

The problem with brining up a safety is that any legend WR can beat coverage badly on any play.

Id also like to point out, to those saying they don't give up 100 yards rushing....you shouldn't....ever. Most games are 5 minute accelerated clock, 60 yards should be a good game in the real world with that amount of time.

There are way to many broken tackles by gold backs as compared to big plays by gold defenders. If Campbell/Payton/Sayers/Sanders can destroy a defense any given play (to the tune of 6+ ypc) than the gold defensive players should be equally as dominant is my point.

If a generic LB has no chance vs campbell, a generic guard should have no chance against Lilly, a generic WR no chance vs Woodson, a generic OT no chance vs White.

[HotShot232]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I play 6 min quarters on ONLY legend. ALL-PRO is ALWAYS a shoot out. Try legend it is geared to more slower pace and more punts. I find it plays a much better game.

[Sven Draconian]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I play 6 min quarters on ONLY legend. ALL-PRO is ALWAYS a shoot out. Try legend it is geared to more slower pace and more punts. I find it plays a much better game.

Thanks, I'll have to try that

(Do you have XBL, if so add me svendraconian43)

[dragon4ever]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Like rocky said, it is clear u are calling wrong plays.

A 4-4 is good against a FAST Shifty back. BUT the 4-4 weakness is the chance of given up the big run if u are caught wrong.

The 4-3 base cover 2 is my standard gameplan with hotroute blitzs, and covers called on each play. I adjust as the formation looks like.

The Bear should be used in short yardage. But like 4-4 if they get through front line, good luck stopping them before a huge gain.

I run the 5-2 alot in short yards. I just like it.

But like rocky said. The 4-3 is going to be your standard run stopping D. Calling the right line movements combined with right blitz packages and shifts. It is your gameplan that needs work man

I'd like to see you try and contain this offense:

Dan Marino
Jerry Rice
Herman Moore
Todd Christensen
John Taylor
Ricky Watters

Kudos to you if you can.

[dunelly]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Gold corners cannot keep up with GOLD WRs
Gold Linebackers cannot tackle GOLD RBs
gold Dline can't even get consistant pressure vs GENERIC OLINE.

I don't see how anyone can argue with those facts unless they just like defending the game. Truth is, defense is SOFT in this game. Just because you beat certain players doesn't mean its not. Play the right player with that offense and just watch it become a scorefest, even with all legends on defense.
The great offensive players were great because they were consistant. Not because they can catch in triple coverage or run 3 defenders over every play.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I keep hearing poeple bitching about this in alot of threads, and from my experience Online, I JUST DONT SEE IT ANYMORE. Yeah when i first started I would get smoked by a gold RB, but i learned, and I cant remeber the last time any RB put 100 yards on me.

You can tell early on if they like the run, if they do, call a 4:3, slant to the big side of the field, hot route some LBs to the rb, and use a generic RB to get the first hit or CONTAIN THE GUY.

Its seems like other people are learning too because I use Barry, and its been alot tougher to get those big runs. Ive been held under 50 yeards numerous times.

Some people just have to learn how to play football, and take some actions themselves before crying about RB's dominating

[DocHolliday]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Dont even talk to me about Pass Defense, even though i can put up some good numbers with Harbaugh, most of my oppenents are held to like a 50 QB rating. I dunno maybe im just good, my record online is like 67 and 20 or something.

[kcxiv]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I just have problems with a good Earl Campbell user. I mean other gold running backs can hurt you, but they can also be stopped sometimes. I am ranked about 30 on D for online play. I think i am ok. My run D is decent as well.

[kcxiv]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Gold corners cannot keep up with GOLD WRs
Gold Linebackers cannot tackle GOLD RBs
gold Dline can't even get consistant pressure vs GENERIC OLINE.

I don't see how anyone can argue with those facts unless they just like defending the game. Truth is, defense is SOFT in this game. Just because you beat certain players doesn't mean its not. Play the right player with that offense and just watch it become a scorefest, even with all legends on defense.
The great offensive players were great because they were consistant. Not because they can catch in triple coverage or run 3 defenders over every play.

In this game you need stars on the dline. They do create pressure, but they dont create them every game. O does not really rule in this game. I think its a little better then the D, but if you know what plays to call, you can keep the score down. I have done it against the best players on live. You obviously cant do it everytime, but i have had some pretty low scoring games with the top guys.

btw, the best corner in the league couldnt keep up with Rice in his prime. Shut down corner or not. Rice>them all.

[burnwood]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

I keep hearing poeple bitching about this in alot of threads, and from my experience Online, I JUST DONT SEE IT ANYMORE.

That explains everything then! Since you "JUST DONT SEE IT ANYMORE", means that it just doesn't happen to anyone else. I mean, no one else can have any possible legitimate complaint if "YOU JUST DONT SEE IT ANYMORE".

[DocHolliday]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Well, i dont. Sorry dude, maybe u need to step ur your game player

[burnwood]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

LOL

[DocHolliday]

Re: Dear APF Dev Team....wheres the defense?

Besides, u took only a part or my message. Your like the papparazi miss quoting people. Maybe ill catch you online somtime and guve u a first hand lesson.