Your very own camera argument thread.

[hatisback]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

I guess this is what the argument boils down to when you have nothing else?

I seriously don't get what the argument could be against having another option. This is the worst blind loyalty I have ever seen here.

We are arguing for options, yet you are arguing for what?

Maybe because the devs have said for 2+ years this was what they were going for and you knew it. Then the demo comes out and you are mad that there isnt a camera view you want when youve known that all along.

[kehlis]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

People were saying the devs wanted an on the field experience. If you have such a problem with that go to the BB official site and complain about it there where it does the most good. I have never seen the devs hang around OS.

So now since you understand you have lost you are telling us to take the discussion elsewhere?

I don't understand where your disconnect is but we are here because we want to enjoy the game. BK has said he still plans on buying the game first day, are we not allowed to discuss a deficiency with they game?

I have seen the counter to the camera argument take so many angles it is getting hilarious.

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Maybe because the devs have said for 2+ years this was what they were going for and you knew it. Then the demo comes out and you are mad that there isnt a camera view you want when youve known that all along.

So people aren't allowed to voice their opinion because the devs said this was it?

The demo came out, we got to try the new camera and some didn't like it. Are we not allowed to discuss the merits and weaknesses of the demo and the game? Or is this not a discussion forum?

Why is it whenever someone brings up a weakness to the game, people like you feel the need to talk down to those people? Are we supposed to only gush about the game, and ignore anything we feel takes away from the experience?

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

People was saying that the devs wanted on the field experince.if you have such a problem with that go to the BB offical site and compline about it there where it do the most good.I never see the dev hang on OS.

I am sure they know. And if they don't then it's on them for not doing their due diligence.

[kehlis]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Maybe because the devs have said for 2+ years this was what they were going for and you knew it. Then the demo comes out and you are mad that there isnt a camera view you want when youve known that all along.

Please read my previous responses to this, I have given it at least 5 times now...I understand the direction they were taking, that is what I disagree with...

[hatisback]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

So people aren't allowed to voice their opinion because the devs said this was it?

The demo came out, we got to try the new camera and some didn't like it. Are we not allowed to discuss the merits and weaknesses of the demo and the game? Or is this not a discussion forum?

Why is it whenever someone brings up a weakness to the game, people like you feel the need to talk down to those people? Are we supposed to only gush about the game, and ignore anything we feel takes away from the experience?

Who says the cam is a weakness? Are you the one to decide that?

[kehlis]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Who says the cam is a weakness? Are you the one to decide that?

Have you read through any of the threads here?

Seems to be a pretty common issue...

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Who says the cam is a weakness? Are you the one to decide that?

It is in my opinion. Is that not what we are discussing when breaking down the demo? People's opinions?

I mean really. You really want to argue that lack of options is a good thing? Seriously? You have no stake in this games success, yet you talk down anyone who has less than glowing things to say about the game. I mean, damn, wanting options in a game that is supposed to be super customizable is a bad thing? Do you read what you are writing?

[lofeazy]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

So now since you understand you have lost you are telling us to take the discussion elsewhere?

I don't understand where your disconnect is but we are here because we want to enjoy the game. BK has said he still plans on buying the game first day, are we not allowed to discuss a deficiency with they game?

I have seen the counter to the camera argument take so many angles it is getting hilarious.

I pointing you to the right place to ask for the more cam options.

you can talk about the games deficiency.(I got a list already from the demo)

tewk camera a little higher,there no user catching,No swating of the ball by dline are the DB in the game.I got more.Thats just the start.I have about 10 major deficiency with this game.

[boooey]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

No, that is incorrect.

The first football game to use that camera as someone else posted in this thread was John Elway football.

Maybe it should be now called the Elway camera.

TV Sports Football was the original, and the first to use this view, and real broadcast TV style presentation.

[hatisback]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

It is in my opinion. Is that not what we are discussing when breaking down the demo? People's opinions?

I mean really. You really want to argue that lack of options is a good thing? Seriously? You have no stake in this games success, yet you talk down anyone who has less than glowing things to say about the game. I mean, damn, wanting options in a game that is supposed to be super customizable is a bad thing? Do you read what you are writing?

Im not against options. Im against people that know what features are going to be in a game, and then complain when they play the game and those features are the same as what the devs said.

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

just for the record, you guys are all wrong.. TV Sports Football was the original, and the first to use this view, and real broadcast TV style presentation.

I played the crap out of that game on my C64 back in the day.

[lofeazy]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Have you read through any of the threads here?

Seems to be a pretty common issue...

Only in this forum the camera is having issues.Every where else they bring up some of the issues I said.

[bkrich83]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Im not against options. Im against people that know what features are going to be in a game, and then complain when they play the game and those features are the same as what the devs said.

Why? Why would you even care?

The devs saying one thing is great. But no one really knew how well it would work out till we get our hands on it. If we don't like the way it turned out we're just supposed to do nothing? We're just supposed to post glowing reviews only?

[kehlis]

Re: Your very own camera argument thread.

Im not against options. Im against people that know what features are going to be in a game, and then complain when they play the game and those features are the same as what the devs said.

LOL, so when is it okay to complain about the options the devs decided to include then?

Is this something that was only allowed months ago? What are the rules that I am unaware of with regards to when we are allowed to question something?