Warren Moon is not Hall worthy

[VanCitySportsGuy]

Re: Warren Moon is not Hall worthy

O.K. I'll repeat: Is the CFL equal to the NFL?

I follow both leagues and my answer is no.

[coogrfan]

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Did anyone say they were?

Of course they're not equal. It's part of the equation, though.

No, it isn't (or at least it shouldn't be). Using my earlier example, if Herschel doesn't get to include his USFL stats, why should Warren get to include his CFL numbers when judging his worthiness for the Hall?

[glucklich]

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For those who are saying that the CFL should be factored in, are there any CFL players who are inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton? If so, how often does it happen? Im really asking because its possible that its simply not reported here. If there are no inductees from the CFL and only the CFL, how does that factor into the equation?

[SemperVictoria]

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For those who are saying that the CFL should be factored in, are there any CFL players who are inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton? If so, how often does it happen? Im really asking because its possible that its simply not reported here. If there are no inductees from the CFL and only the CFL, how does that factor into the equation?

Yeah, according to many on this board, it is the PRO Hall of Fame--right? So where are all those CFL HOFers?

[RockinDaMike]

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So the CFL is equal to the NFL? If not, why the hell allow those stats?

its not equal, why do you think its equal? they are CONSIDERED as part of the vote, when you get paid to play in a sport your a pro. and CFL is considered a pro league

[bkrich83]

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The CFL Argument is stupid.

Even without his CFL stats he's:

#4 All-Time in completions
#4 All-Time in Pass Attempts
#4 All-Time in Pass Yards
#5 All-Time in Touchdowns.

Those are all in the history of the NFL.

He has more passing yards than Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, John Unitas and Jim Kelly. All of whom are in the NFL I believe.

He has more TD passes than John Unitas, Joe Montana, Dan Fouts and Jim Kelly.

So who cares if people factor in the CFL stats or not, just based on NFL stats he's in the Top 4 or 5, in almost every category.

[coogrfan]

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This link is a list of Hall of Famers from either defunct or non-NFL leagues and/or teams. Only those players whose names are in all caps are considered to have made their primary contribution to the sport as members of teams not currently part of the NFL.

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/De...herLeagues.jsp

There are no players or coaches who made their primary contributions as CFL members currently enshrined in Canton.

[VanCitySportsGuy]

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For those who are saying that the CFL should be factored in, are there any CFL players who are inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton? If so, how often does it happen? Im really asking because its possible that its simply not reported here. If there are no inductees from the CFL and only the CFL, how does that factor into the equation?

There are only 2 people in the CFL and Pro Football HoF. Warren Moon and Bud Grant. Bud Grant got in as a coach for both HoF's.

An interesting case will be Damon Allen. Next season he will pass Moon and become the all-time passing yards leader. His HoF brother Marcus thinks he should be considered in Canton.

http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?module=newser&func=display&topicnum=1&nid=7301

[fossen]

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Yeah, according to many on this board, it is the PRO Hall of Fame--right?

"according to many" :y4:

Yeah - according to many.

Anyways, BK's right. Even excluding CFL stats, you can't argue against Moon. The only arguments would be personal reservations like Erod's "Eh. Didn't like him" or other vague reasons.

[SemperVictoria]

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"according to many" :y4:

Yeah - according to many.

Anyways, BK's right. Even excluding CFL stats, you can't argue against Moon. The only arguments would be personal reservations like Erod's "Eh. Didn't like him" or other vague reasons.

Again, then where are all of those CFL HOFers at Canton? Is the Arena League pro? If so, when do they start to be inducted?

[UTlonghornguy]

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Warren Moon threw for more recieving yards when he was 36 then any other QB did in the league this year.

Edit: First time I have ever felt the need to actually make a post in almost 1 and half years of reading this board off and on.

[fossen]

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Again, then where are all of those CFL HOFers at Canton? Is the Arena League pro? If so, when do they start to be inducted?

I don't bloody well vote, do I?

If you can find me a stick of evidence that the HOF is exclusive to the NFL and not all of "Pro Football", please make your point. Until then, I'll assume that if the Hall's website is correct about it's mission statement.

And again ... it doesn't matter. Moon's NFL stats are clearly that of a HOFer.

[SemperVictoria]

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There are only 2 people in the CFL and Pro Football HoF. Warren Moon and Bud Grant. Bud Grant got in as a coach for both HoF's.

An interesting case will be Damon Allen. Next season he will pass Moon and become the all-time passing yards leader. His HoF brother Marcus thinks he should be considered in Canton.
http://www.cfl.ca/index.php?module=n...num=1&nid=7301

That’s exactly my point. If it’s truly just the Pro Football HOF and not the NFL HOF, then Damon Allen should be admitted (along with many others from the CFL). Just curious AF, what’s your take on D. Allen? Have you watched him much?

[billmatic]

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The CFL Argument is stupid.

Even without his CFL stats he's:

#4 All-Time in completions
#4 All-Time in Pass Attempts
#4 All-Time in Pass Yards
#5 All-Time in Touchdowns.

Those are all in the history of the NFL.

He has more passing yards than Fran Tarkenton, Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, John Unitas and Jim Kelly. All of whom are in the NFL I believe.

He has more TD passes than John Unitas, Joe Montana, Dan Fouts and Jim Kelly.

So who cares if people factor in the CFL stats or not, just based on NFL stats he's in the Top 4 or 5, in almost every category.

exactly.

this thread reeks of stupid.

[SemperVictoria]

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I don't bloody well vote, do I?

If you can find me a stick of evidence that the HOF is exclusive to the NFL and not all of "Pro Football", please make your point. Until then, I'll assume that if the Hall's website is correct about it's mission statement.

And again ... it doesn't matter. Moon's NFL stats are clearly that of a HOFer.

Do you think Damon Allen should be inducted into the HOF?