Edgerrin James has my respect

KG · 09-02-2009, 09:53 AM

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Just like any other major D-1 fball school there are good eggs and bad eggs. It was all an image that they portrayed back then to intimidate other teams and it worked VERY well. As much as I hate Miami they were trend setters and turned "The U" into a brand. It's a very good marketing strategy done by a group of players that are a pretty close knit family.

LOL, Kellen Winslow is no thug. Hell, I don't even think he was allowed to play fball until high school.

**Illustrator76** · 09-02-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by kgx2thez

Just like any other major D-1 fball school there are good eggs and bad eggs. It was all an image that they portrayed back then to intimidate other teams and it worked VERY well. As much as I hate Miami they were trend setters and turned "The U" into a brand. It's a very good marketing strategy done by a group of players that are a pretty close knit family.

LOL, Kellen Winslow is no thug. Hell, I don't even think he was allowed to play fball until high school.

Not saying he IS a thug, but how can the general public not perceive him as one when he's throwing up "The U" and talking about killing someone over a football game, on national TV nonetheless?

**CWSapp757** · 09-02-2009, 10:06 AM

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I thought this was supposed to be a happy thread. Where's the love guys

**Illustrator76** · 09-02-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by CWSapp757

I thought this was supposed to be a happy thread. Where's the love guys

Very true, we should get back on topic.

**elgreazy1** · 09-02-2009, 12:30 PM

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This has been typical EJ since he came into the league the only problem is no one knows this. He's always been portrayed as some ghetto-banger who has no respect for others but in fact, he just has a ghetto-banger look (dreads, gold teeth, ghetto slang, etc) and a matter-of-fact, laid back personality. It's tough to go through an ordeal much like he has, but more than anything, I think he needs football this year in his life to keep some normalcy. To lose one's wife AND end one's career in a matter of months would be completely devastating.

**P2K** · 09-02-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Illustrator76

Not saying he IS a thug, but how can the general public not perceive him as one when he's throwing up "The U" and talking about killing someone over a football game, on national TV nonetheless?

First of all, K2 was frustrated after that Tennessee loss and said the 'soldier' thing. That has been discussed over and over. You blame it on Miami. I blame it on the traits he got from his father.

Second, do you think the same when Ken Dorsey and Jeremy Shockey are throwing up the U?

**grunt** · 09-02-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Illustrator76

I disagree, their rep got even worse in recent years and it had nothing to do with them being good (because they weren't). They recruit more bad seeds with more bad attitudes than any other program in my opinion. I'm not saying that other teams don't have them, but most of the time they get dealt with, at Miami it's seems almost like bad behavior is encouraged.

Wow, simple not true.

**grunt** · 09-02-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh

Made him look like he ran the streets late @ night doing who knows what. Its not right to judge someone based on that, agreed. But we know what image that presents. You don't equate that look w/school teachers, doctors, wallstreet mavens, firemen, accountants.... family men..........

Not to me but for each his own. You mean the business professional look of Wall Street. If you want to talk about thugs think the financial sector not a young man that turned out to be a quality individual.

Peace

**grunt** · 09-02-2009, 04:09 PM

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Thank God for SI Vault.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066817/1/index.htm

Here is a piece from this article from Dec 07, 1987. Good read by the late, great Ralph Wiley.

Earlier in the week, Holtz had said that the Hurricane players "aren't afraid of the FBI, the police or the opposition." Somehow, according to Blades, this comment was translated in type on the scouting reports given to the Hurricanes as: " Miami is a team of plantation boys, white trash and criminals." Those 'Canes sure can take umbrage out of thin air. "When guys come to your backyard and say things like that, you don't let 'em out," said Blades. "I congratulated Brown after the game, but I didn't bow down like he was lord and master."

Imagine a coach saying that about another team in 2009. The negative rep of the "U" been around long time.

Here is the famous Catholic vs Convict story that is border line.......

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1067906/index.htm

This is from October of 1988. These sterotypes are over a generation old.

Peace

**ubernoob** · 09-02-2009, 04:44 PM

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I love Operation Sports.

No, really. This thread is comical. It's a good story, yet here we have a thread degenerating into a bunch of talk about "thugs"

**Illustrator76** · 09-02-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by P2K

First of all, K2 was frustrated after that Tennessee loss and said the 'soldier' thing. That has been discussed over and over. You blame it on Miami. I blame it on the traits he got from his father.

Second, do you think the same when Ken Dorsey and Jeremy Shockey are throwing up the U?

This thread was supposed to get back on topic so I am not going to respond to 2 or 3 posts that I want to. I will answer your final question though, Dorsey No, Shockey Yes...I see what you are doing there bro, trust me, that has nothing to do with it, especially for me.

**"The Jab" Judah** · 09-02-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Squint

I'll admit, I completely stereo-typed Edgerrin James. Coming from "The U", the gold teeth (now since removed), and the dreadlocks all pointed to the "thug" persona

So anyone who has gold teeth and 'locks' are perceived as THUGS in your eyes, unless found to be otherwise...LMAO

**SportsTop** · 09-02-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by "The Jab" Judah

So anyone who has gold teeth and 'locks' are perceived as THUGS in your eyes, unless found to be otherwise...LMAO

Yeah, because that's what I said.

Nice job in parsing my statement and twisting it into what you want it to say.

People are beyond comical around here.

**jyoung** · 09-02-2009, 07:11 PM

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To all the people saying this kind of thing is "the norm" and shouldn't be praised:

it stopped being "the norm" when the guy's wife died at a young age.

Edge and his family are in a tough spot and seem to be handling it as well as possible.

This is definitely worth writing an article about, IMO.

**wwharton** · 09-02-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by wEEman33

To all the people saying this kind of thing is "the norm" and shouldn't be praised:

it stopped being "the norm" when the guy's wife died at a young age.

Edge and his family are in a tough spot and seem to be handling it as well as possible.

This is definitely worth writing an article about, IMO.

good point

Edgerrin James has my respect

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