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Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread
Well fancy that. Manning had neck surgery today and is out a "significant" portion of the season.
-Per Chris Mortensen.
Good enough for you? In the end the "tweet" that Manning was done for the year (the focal point of the information) looks to be correct.Comment
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as long as today is sunday and "significant" = 16 games ill take stock in those type of tweets
The real reports a few days ago that was manning was consulting doctors about another surgery and could miss a large part of the season. Those obviously turned out to be true. Thats why i trust them a lot more than a local journalist trying to make a name for himself with a big scoop and a mindless retweeter.
Now that manning is going to be out for multiple games. The question is, relevant to this thread, are they going to get the #1 pick? i dont think so with the pick up of collins. I dont even think they finish last in the division. The jags and the titans just seem to really have nothing going right for them.Comment
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Again, you're missing the whole point of twitter. It isn't the first place to go for evaluated and processed information. You go there for raw information happening in real time.as long as today is sunday and "significant" = 16 games ill take stock in those type of tweets
The real reports a few days ago that was manning was consulting doctors about another surgery and could miss a large part of the season. Those obviously turned out to be true. Thats why i trust them a lot more than a local journalist trying to make a name for himself with a big scoop and a mindless retweeter.
Now that manning is going to be out for multiple games. The question is, relevant to this thread, are they going to get the #1 pick? i dont think so with the pick up of collins. I dont even think they finish last in the division. The jags and the titans just seem to really have nothing going right for them.
Where there is smoke, there's fire.Comment
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It didn't seem odd without Brady, it won't seem odd that Manning is M.I.A...to me anyway.
We are about to get a serious look at the Colts without Manning. Everyone has always said life after Manning and the Colts will be picking top 10. We are about to witness it for a "while" at least.Originally posted by WatsonTigerOne out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.Comment
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Big difference is Brady was "just" an ACL. This is neck surgery that has caused players to retire and there's no guarantee of his return.It didn't seem odd without Brady, it won't seem odd that Manning is M.I.A...to me anyway.
We are about to get a serious look at the Colts without Manning. Everyone has always said life after Manning and the Colts will be picking top 10. We are about to witness it for a "while" at least.
It's strange to think we may have seen Manning take his last snap ever back in January.Comment
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Well of course that would be odd to see him go out like that. I'm just referring to if he was just out for the season like Brady.
ESPN ticker just said 2-3 months for Manning.Originally posted by WatsonTigerOne out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.Comment
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I definitely feel weirder without Peyton out compared to Favre being gone. For one, Peyton is actually likeable. Two, Peyton is better than Favre. Three, its so sudden. Four, he's a divisional "rival" so I'm even more familiar with how good he is.
Weird. Super weird.Comment
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2-3 Months bye bye playoffs! Hello Andrew Luck?"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."
[B]Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.Comment
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From the doc on the Texans board:
What we know:
*We know his 1st two minimally invasive surgeries were posterior cervical discectomies (as the video I posted)
*We know that he delayed his 1st surgery of March 2010 for 4 years
*We know that he delayed his 2nd (May 23 2011) surgery having had symptoms at least since the very beginning of the year (with some conjecture that he was suffering symptoms since the beginning or middle of the 2010 regular season).
*We know that he was expected to be playing football by 6-8 weeks (like after his 1st surgery) and now its been almost 4 months with continued significant problems.
*We know that he has now undergone a formal ONE LEVEL anterior cervical fusion with graft.
Some general conclusions that could be drawn:
*He had this 3rd type of surgery NOT SOLELY because a properly decompressed nerve was not regenerating quickly enough, but because there was continued compression on that nerve despite his previous surgeries.
*There have been studies that have shown that the prognosis of successful nerve regeneration is significantly negatively impacted by waiting for >6 months of experiencing compressive symptoms.
*Realistically safe return to football is likely to take closer to 6 months (if then) of recovery and rehab rather than a 2 - 3 month period reported. (We will likely see the fans, team and media restart all the chaotic speculation of return in 2 months.)
*Since there was this long continued period of symptoms up to this recent surgery, we still don’t know how much and how long his nerve and muscle function will take to return. Although this was a one level fusion which normally carries a very good return to play record, the complicating factors that I have tried to chronicle do not necessarily guarantee that he will return as the Peyton Manning we know, or at all. In other words, a successful decompressive operation may not necessarily translate into a successful functional outcome.....and we haven’t even taken into consideration that there is likely some degeneration already brewing at one or more adjacent disc spaces.............not to mention the more terrible thought of the possibility of surgical complications (not anything that I want to get into, since the present circumstances seem to already be complicated enough.)Comment
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That would probably be the best thing to happen for the Colts long term. The Colts O-line is shaky but, they still have some solid skill position players on both sides of that team. There are some teams that are definitely worse off IMO like the Bengals for example. It's gonna get ugly though for the Colts, short off season, running game probably nonexistent, and then when that happens oh buddy look out.
Collins at least had a running game in Tennessee but, the Colts is a whole other story. Is he gonna be able to carry them without a running game like Manning being forced to throw it over and over? I doubt it.
Edit: And damn.^ Delayed his surgery for 4 years!? I wonder what was going threw his mind at the time.Last edited by SouthernBrick; 09-08-2011, 06:14 PM.Originally posted by WatsonTigerOne out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.Comment
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I don't know about Peyton being "likeable". He is my least favorite player in the NFL. The fact that he's a New Orleans native just goes to show how much I dislike him.You looking at the Chair MAN!
Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.Comment
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More "unlikeable" than James Harrison?
Funny how certain people love one players competitiveness but dislike another.
I see very little difference in on field presence, attitude, and overall competitiveness between Manning and Dan Marino in the 80's and early 90's.Comment


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