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  • untrugby
    Haterade Drinker
    • Aug 2010
    • 1613

    #106
    Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

    Originally posted by SportsTop
    Guys like you are funny. The world is a more entertaining place with your type around.

    Typical to bring up an argument (twitter and journalistic integrity) and then completely set that topic aside to push other agendas in the hopes that your main argument will be forgotten about.

    Have fun continuing to get wrapped up in minutiae.
    people like you are funny

    You ask me to put aside the twitter / journalistic integrity issue and focus of the content. I do just that then you hammer me for it.
    Last edited by untrugby; 09-08-2011, 01:56 PM.

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    • SportsTop
      The Few. The Proud.
      • Jul 2003
      • 6716

      #107
      Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

      Originally posted by untrugby
      people like you are funny

      You ask me to put aside the twitter / journalistic integrity issue and focus of the content. I do just that then you hammer me for it.
      Well fancy that. Manning had neck surgery today and is out a "significant" portion of the season.

      -Per Chris Mortensen.

      Good enough for you? In the end the "tweet" that Manning was done for the year (the focal point of the information) looks to be correct.
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      • Rouchicus
        Rookie
        • Jan 2010
        • 378

        #108
        Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

        I think I will feel more odd having football without Peyton than I did about having football without Favre.
        PSN - RedSea_Rouch

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        • untrugby
          Haterade Drinker
          • Aug 2010
          • 1613

          #109
          Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

          Originally posted by SportsTop
          Well fancy that. Manning had neck surgery today and is out a "significant" portion of the season.

          -Per Chris Mortensen.

          Good enough for you? In the end the "tweet" that Manning was done for the year (the focal point of the information) looks to be correct.
          as long as today is sunday and "significant" = 16 games ill take stock in those type of tweets

          The real reports a few days ago that was manning was consulting doctors about another surgery and could miss a large part of the season. Those obviously turned out to be true. Thats why i trust them a lot more than a local journalist trying to make a name for himself with a big scoop and a mindless retweeter.

          Now that manning is going to be out for multiple games. The question is, relevant to this thread, are they going to get the #1 pick? i dont think so with the pick up of collins. I dont even think they finish last in the division. The jags and the titans just seem to really have nothing going right for them.

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          • SportsTop
            The Few. The Proud.
            • Jul 2003
            • 6716

            #110
            Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

            Originally posted by untrugby
            as long as today is sunday and "significant" = 16 games ill take stock in those type of tweets

            The real reports a few days ago that was manning was consulting doctors about another surgery and could miss a large part of the season. Those obviously turned out to be true. Thats why i trust them a lot more than a local journalist trying to make a name for himself with a big scoop and a mindless retweeter.

            Now that manning is going to be out for multiple games. The question is, relevant to this thread, are they going to get the #1 pick? i dont think so with the pick up of collins. I dont even think they finish last in the division. The jags and the titans just seem to really have nothing going right for them.
            Again, you're missing the whole point of twitter. It isn't the first place to go for evaluated and processed information. You go there for raw information happening in real time.

            Where there is smoke, there's fire.
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            • SouthernBrick
              9.17.13
              • Mar 2009
              • 5831

              #111
              Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

              Originally posted by Rouchicus
              I think I will feel more odd having football without Peyton than I did about having football without Favre.
              It didn't seem odd without Brady, it won't seem odd that Manning is M.I.A...to me anyway.

              We are about to get a serious look at the Colts without Manning. Everyone has always said life after Manning and the Colts will be picking top 10. We are about to witness it for a "while" at least.
              Originally posted by WatsonTiger
              One out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.

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              • SportsTop
                The Few. The Proud.
                • Jul 2003
                • 6716

                #112
                Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                Originally posted by SouthernBrick
                It didn't seem odd without Brady, it won't seem odd that Manning is M.I.A...to me anyway.

                We are about to get a serious look at the Colts without Manning. Everyone has always said life after Manning and the Colts will be picking top 10. We are about to witness it for a "while" at least.
                Big difference is Brady was "just" an ACL. This is neck surgery that has caused players to retire and there's no guarantee of his return.

                It's strange to think we may have seen Manning take his last snap ever back in January.
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                • SouthernBrick
                  9.17.13
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5831

                  #113
                  Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                  Originally posted by SportsTop
                  Big difference is Brady was "just" an ACL. This is neck surgery that has caused players to retire and there's no guarantee of his return.

                  It's strange to think we may have seen Manning take his last snap ever back in January.
                  Well of course that would be odd to see him go out like that. I'm just referring to if he was just out for the season like Brady.

                  ESPN ticker just said 2-3 months for Manning.
                  Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                  One out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.

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                  • xkevin
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 460

                    #114
                    Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                    This season is over for Manning. He and everyone else needs to accept that.

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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52929

                      #115
                      Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                      I definitely feel weirder without Peyton out compared to Favre being gone. For one, Peyton is actually likeable. Two, Peyton is better than Favre. Three, its so sudden. Four, he's a divisional "rival" so I'm even more familiar with how good he is.

                      Weird. Super weird.

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                      • Leon Sandcastle
                        Prime Time
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 413

                        #116
                        Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                        2-3 Months bye bye playoffs! Hello Andrew Luck?
                        "A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."
                        [B]Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52929

                          #117
                          Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                          From the doc on the Texans board:


                          What we know:


                          *We know his 1st two minimally invasive surgeries were posterior cervical discectomies (as the video I posted)

                          *We know that he delayed his 1st surgery of March 2010 for 4 years

                          *We know that he delayed his 2nd (May 23 2011) surgery having had symptoms at least since the very beginning of the year (with some conjecture that he was suffering symptoms since the beginning or middle of the 2010 regular season).

                          *We know that he was expected to be playing football by 6-8 weeks (like after his 1st surgery) and now its been almost 4 months with continued significant problems.

                          *We know that he has now undergone a formal ONE LEVEL anterior cervical fusion with graft.


                          Some general conclusions that could be drawn:

                          *He had this 3rd type of surgery NOT SOLELY because a properly decompressed nerve was not regenerating quickly enough, but because there was continued compression on that nerve despite his previous surgeries.

                          *There have been studies that have shown that the prognosis of successful nerve regeneration is significantly negatively impacted by waiting for >6 months of experiencing compressive symptoms.

                          *Realistically safe return to football is likely to take closer to 6 months (if then) of recovery and rehab rather than a 2 - 3 month period reported. (We will likely see the fans, team and media restart all the chaotic speculation of return in 2 months.)

                          *Since there was this long continued period of symptoms up to this recent surgery, we still don’t know how much and how long his nerve and muscle function will take to return. Although this was a one level fusion which normally carries a very good return to play record, the complicating factors that I have tried to chronicle do not necessarily guarantee that he will return as the Peyton Manning we know, or at all. In other words, a successful decompressive operation may not necessarily translate into a successful functional outcome.....and we haven’t even taken into consideration that there is likely some degeneration already brewing at one or more adjacent disc spaces.............not to mention the more terrible thought of the possibility of surgical complications (not anything that I want to get into, since the present circumstances seem to already be complicated enough.)

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                          • SouthernBrick
                            9.17.13
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5831

                            #118
                            Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                            Originally posted by MiiiLe HigH
                            2-3 Months bye bye playoffs! Hello Andrew Luck?
                            That would probably be the best thing to happen for the Colts long term. The Colts O-line is shaky but, they still have some solid skill position players on both sides of that team. There are some teams that are definitely worse off IMO like the Bengals for example. It's gonna get ugly though for the Colts, short off season, running game probably nonexistent, and then when that happens oh buddy look out.

                            Collins at least had a running game in Tennessee but, the Colts is a whole other story. Is he gonna be able to carry them without a running game like Manning being forced to throw it over and over? I doubt it.

                            Edit: And damn.^ Delayed his surgery for 4 years!? I wonder what was going threw his mind at the time.
                            Last edited by SouthernBrick; 09-08-2011, 06:14 PM.
                            Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                            One out of 7 billion, and we still tagged your ***.

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                            • da ThRONe
                              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8528

                              #119
                              Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                              I don't know about Peyton being "likeable". He is my least favorite player in the NFL. The fact that he's a New Orleans native just goes to show how much I dislike him.
                              You looking at the Chair MAN!

                              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                              • SportsTop
                                The Few. The Proud.
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 6716

                                #120
                                Re: The Peyton Manning Injury thread

                                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                                I don't know about Peyton being "likeable". He is my least favorite player in the NFL. The fact that he's a New Orleans native just goes to show how much I dislike him.
                                More "unlikeable" than James Harrison?

                                Funny how certain people love one players competitiveness but dislike another.

                                I see very little difference in on field presence, attitude, and overall competitiveness between Manning and Dan Marino in the 80's and early 90's.
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