NFL Off Topic

[ggsimmonds]

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I don't have a problem with the fines as long as the funds actually do go to charity.

It is a win win in my view. The player can wear something to get awareness out, then money from the fine goes to charity.

I think it would be nice for the NFL to donate all fines to charities of each player's choice though.

Of course this depends on where the funds actually go.

[jWILL253]

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Meh, they are just following the rules by fining these guys. Players know what the result will be. If they did a domestic abuse awareness month they would be totally fine with guys wearing purple.

Although I'm sure this won't stop columnists and opinion makers from declaring (pointlessly) that Goodell needs to be fired, for the 900th time.

I don't have a problem with the fines as long as the funds actually do go to charity.

It is a win win in my view. The player can wear something to get awareness out, then money from the fine goes to charity.

I think it would be nice for the NFL to donate all fines to charities of each player's choice though.

Of course this depends on where the funds actually go.

Justify corporate nonsense, brehs.

[dubcity]

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Justify corporate nonsense, brehs.

Well, if you wanna argue that the rule should be changed, then that's cool. But then you have to allow everyone to wear what they want, in support of whatever cause they want to support. You won't be able to pick and choose which cause is okay and which isn't.

[N51_rob]

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I don't have a problem with the fines as long as the funds actually do go to charity.

It is a win win in my view. The player can wear something to get awareness out, then money from the fine goes to charity.

I think it would be nice for the NFL to donate all fines to charities of each player's choice though.

Of course this depends on where the funds actually go.

Fines do go to charities, but not ones that are the players choice or their personal charity. They go to charities of the NFL's choosing.

Again, my biggest gripe isn't the fines, do the crime do the time. Players know they face fines for these "uniform infractions" but rather the fact that the NFL chooses to go with the maximum they can. They could easily show some humility in the case of Cameron or Gay and recognize what they are doing and why and say we will impost 50% or 25% or hell even 75% of the max. Again we are talking about pocket change here, so its about the principles and appearance for me.

We'll use William Gay's personal tragedy to help pull us out of the Ray Rice domestic violence scandal our lax policies have created but, his wearing purple cleats to push awareness of that same issues we are gonna hit him with the max fine we can.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well, if you wanna argue that the rule should be changed, then that's cool. But then you have to allow everyone to wear what they want, in support of whatever cause they want to support. You won't be able to pick and choose which cause is okay and which isn't.

They already have.

Otherwise, why wasn't Devon Still fined?

[wwharton]

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I swear the NFL and bad press are bed fellows on purpose.

Again, we all know the players who do this know and expect to be fined, but nothing says the NFL needs to drop the maximum fine allowable under the CBA for each of these instances. Would it kill them to make the fine (a laughable) $25 or something. I'm not crying for these guys, because they have the scratch for it, but its just funny!

Honestly, I feel like there's too much piling on. We had a lengthy discussion about this EXACT situation and it's like Pack hit reset on this to jump on the NFL again, lol.

I understand why people are bothered by it, but (like in the previous conversation) they are trying to fight against players finding every possible reason to wear whatever they want. Instead of having a committee decide if someone's cause is worthy enough for player X to wear his own colored shoes or whatever, they don't allow anyone to do anything. All these reasons tug on our heart strings... extended breast cancer awareness, domestic violence, prostate cancer, etc. They will ALWAYS look like the bad guy if they tell anyone know as long as they can put a good cause behind it.

I really don't have a problem with the fines because they made a hard stand and the players know it. Props to the players for doing it anyway and willingly paying the fine for it. I think everyone is doing what they should.

AND I agree that the NFL are a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to money and causes, etc... but in this case, I don't think they should be piled on for sticking to a stance they made years ago and players just willingly going against the rules. Good for the players, but that doesn't mean bad for the NFL imo.

[wwharton]

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Fines do go to charities, but not ones that are the players choice or their personal charity. They go to charities of the NFL's choosing.

Again, my biggest gripe isn't the fines, do the crime do the time. Players know they face fines for these "uniform infractions" but rather the fact that the NFL chooses to go with the maximum they can. They could easily show some humility in the case of Cameron or Gay and recognize what they are doing and why and say we will impost 50% or 25% or hell even 75% of the max. Again we are talking about pocket change here, so its about the principles and appearance for me.

We'll use William Gay's personal tragedy to help pull us out of the Ray Rice domestic violence scandal our lax policies have created but, his wearing purple cleats to push awareness of that same issues we are gonna hit him with the max fine we can.

I agree with you in principle, but in reality this would be the same as ignoring the rules in place... and then players would just wear whatever they want.

And lets be real, most people up in arms about this think players should just be able to wear whatever they want anyway... so this is really just piling on the NoFunLeague for not letting players do it.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Don't blame Pack for this because again they have no one else to blame but themselves. And nobody here is piling on(didn't know having a differing views of how they make their decisions is considered "piling on").

Again, nobody has an issue with them fining players(why this was brought up, I have no idea why).

You can use MY story in one of your videos to show that you "care", but I can't use MY story to bring awareness to the same cause that you're promoting? Heh, funny how that works.

[N51_rob]

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I agree with you in principle, but in reality this would be the same as ignoring the rules in place... and then players would just wear whatever they want.



And lets be real, most people up in arms about this think players should just be able to wear whatever they want anyway... so this is really just piling on the NoFunLeague for not letting players do it.

Again I say it's all about perspective. William Gay wears purple cleats to bring further awareness to DV (which btw has anyone seen a No More commercial this season?) is vastly different than Marshawn Lynch wants to wear cleats with Skittles air brushed all over them to get at $15,000 pay day.

At the end of the day I don't care one way or another. But there is a reason it's called a maximum fine because it allows for discretion is doling it out.


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[N51_rob]

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It's all good for the NFL the day after a 14 inning game one of the World Series featuring an inside the park HR and a bottom of the 9th game tying HR they have people talking about William Gays a pimp named slickback's look alike cleats.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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I haven't seen those "No More" commercials since like the Preseason.

[jvalverde88]

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Again I say it's all about perspective. William Gay wears purple cleats to bring further awareness to DV (which btw has anyone seen a No More commercial this season?) is vastly different than Marshawn Lynch wants to wear cleats with Skittles air brushed all over them to get at $15,000 pay day.

At the end of the day I don't care one way or another. But there is a reason it's called a maximum fine because it allows for discretion is doling it out.


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I haven't seen those "No More" commercials since like the Preseason.

Just wait til a player gets charged with DV, they'll pop up again.

[mestevo]

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There are also probably fewer PSA slots in the regular season, ad space more lucrative and networks hit quotas with other spots during other programs.

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[TheShizNo1]

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There are also probably fewer PSA slots in the regular season, ad space more lucrative and networks hit quotas with other spots during other programs.

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Man, no lol. They had no problems throwing those up any time anything NFL related was on.

[pw_1016]

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Listening to Russillo and Kannell on ESPN Radio . They say, at this point, the Lions are projected to have the number 1 pick in the 2016 draft. They think the Lions should look at trading Stafford and maybe going after Jared Goff . What do you Lions fans think of this?

Also, they also want to know what Texans fans would think of the organization trading for RG3 or Kaepernick?Which one would yall rather have? Kannell says RG3 has too much baggage (injury history, teammates not liking him, etc. )