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[ImTellinTim]

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Can we ease off on the political BS? Have no interest in reading it in an NFL thread.

Nothing has really been that "political" other than a post that has been deleted. If the President is going to insert himself into the debate, he's going to get talked about.

It's the biggest story in the NFL right now, so if you don't want to read about it, you will have to skip the NFL thread for a while.

[dubcity]

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On a much lighter note

Congrats to T.O. making it onto cover of the HOF edition of Madden.

I actually thought that was fake when I first heard it lol. He deserves it tho.

[TripleCrown9]

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Can we ease off on the political BS? Have no interest in reading it in an NFL thread.

Imagine how the players feel.

[p_rushing]

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Keep the protest off the field. Not everyone agrees with everyone else, so keep it off the field and just play football. (Do you protest at your job? No, they would fire you)

You want to protest fine, they have lots of free time during the off-season and every day of the week after practice.

Kneeling accomplishes nothing, too many players don't actually do anything. You want things to change, go and help the communities and people out, don't just kneel and say you did something.

[ImTellinTim]

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"Go protest where I can't see"

That defeats the purpose. Protest by design is supposed to make people uncomfortable. More people than ever are talking about the issue and seeking solutions, so it is in fact accomplishing something. You should also be careful about making assumptions that players that are kneeling aren't doing anything in their communities.

And no I don't protest at my job. I'm also infinitely more replaceable than a pro athlete.

[DrJones]

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Kneeling accomplishes nothing, too many players don't actually do anything. You want things to change, go and help the communities and people out, don't just kneel and say you did something.

Many players already do that. It's not the the players or their communities that need to change.

[legendkiller5]

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Many players already do that. It's not the the players or their communities that need to change.

Yup, including Kaep. And spot on with the rest of your post.

But it was only a matter of time before someone posted something uninformed (the nicest word I can use) like that, which is half the problem.

[p_rushing]

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Many players already do that. It's not the the players or their communities that need to change.

Yup, including Kaep. And spot on with the rest of your post.

But it was only a matter of time before someone posted something uninformed (the nicest word I can use) like that, which is half the problem.

I know some players do great work, but how many players are in the NFL? Where were they at this off-season?


In simplicity, there are easier things to do in the communities that remove the need for the police to be there at all.

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[Jr.]

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I've said this for the last couple of years, but if you're comfortable with how someone is protesting something that you agree with, then the protest isn't doing what it's supposed to. Telling another person how they're "allowed" to protest is absurd.

[King_B_Mack]

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I know some players do great work, but how many players are in the NFL? Where were they at this off-season?


In simplicity, there are easier things to do in the communities that remove the need for the police to be there at all.

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The hell does any of that have to do with police killing people and beating the breaks off people for misdemeanor offenses, routine traffic stops and less in some cases while somehow managing to apprehend mass murderers without a scratch? Never mind that some of this mess happens to people when they aren’t even in their “communities.” You’re completely uniformed on ALL of this at this point. I feel like I’m in a Facebook comments section right now.


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[kehlis]

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When your best argument is “Where are they in the off-season” you know you’ve come to the bottom of the barrel.

I’m ashamed to be honest.

[legendkiller5]

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I know some players do great work, but how many players are in the NFL? Where were they at this off-season?


In simplicity, there are easier things to do in the communities that remove the need for the police to be there at all.

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A quick Google search would tell you everything you need to know, but per the usual, people would rather be willfully ignorant, so they can deflect from the legitimate issues.

Another one from the, “it makes me uncomfortable and I don’t like it, so they should stop” club.

Sad and pathetic.

[PVarck31]

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Just following the Browns twitter account I have seen a bunch of things the players are doing this off-season. Everything from working with underprivileged children, donating tons of money to a whole bunch of different causes and even doing events to honor soldiers and police officers.

The fact is, most of these guys are good people with good hearts and just want to bring awareness to things that mean something to them. Kneeling for the anthem isn't them disrespecting the flag or the country, they will tell you that straight up. It's to bring awareness to real issues in this country that a large group of people are either afraid or not willing to address. That's the way they chose to do it.

Being perfectly honest, I always stand for the anthem, and that's just my personal thing. But this country was built on the principle that it is also your right to not stand. And we have always fought to keep that right. So I have no problem with it and think they should be able to kneel if they want.

[NDAlum]

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The hell does any of that have to do with police killing people and beating the breaks off people for misdemeanor offenses, routine traffic stops and less in some cases while somehow managing to apprehend mass murderers without a scratch? Never mind that some of this mess happens to people when they aren’t even in their “communities.” You’re completely uniformed on ALL of this at this point. I feel like I’m in a Facebook comments section right now.


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If you murder a bus full of babies and are approached by police to be taken into custody and you comply/listen any type of force used against you is unjustified and whoever uses said force should be reprimanded.

Let's please separate the actual crime with the apprehension process.

There have definitely been some huge incidents in recent years where police were very wrong and it's a tragedy.

[King_B_Mack]

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If you murder a bus full of babies and are approached by police to be taken into custody and you comply/listen any type of force used against you is unjustified and whoever uses said force should be reprimanded.



Let's please separate the actual crime with the apprehension process.



There have definitely been some huge incidents in recent years where police were very wrong and it's a tragedy.

So I see the “comply or die” mantra has made its way here as well.

If the argument that’s being made from certain folks, including the police involved in the incidents that they come into aggressively and firing shots within seconds of interacting with the victims is that they used necessary force because they feared for their lives with unarmed people and somehow find the courage to not come guns a blazing on suspects who’ve murdered upwards of 30 people in 20 minutes then I don’t want to hear any compliance arguments. Especially since we have an unarmed man lying on his back with his hands up who wasn’t even the offender in his altercation get shot anyway or a man who complied with every order and did the right thing and disclosed his concealed carry status get shot and killed in front of his girlfriend and small daughter for reaching for his carry card as he was told to provide, then yeah the comply or die mess can go somewhere.


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