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  • J_Posse
    Greatness Personified
    • Jun 2005
    • 11252

    #31666
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
    The best option I've seen is the Redtails, to honor the Tuskegee Airmen.
    Yeah, my brother (a life long 'Skins fan) was telling me about that one. It would be very, very dope if they went in that direction. Actually honoring a group of men that fought for our country, could keep the same color scheme & do something very "progressive."


    Like I said earlier, I also wouldn't be opposed with them using this opportunity to actually honor indigenous people & collaborating with a local tribe to use a more appropriate name. Similar to the Blackhawks in Chicago.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52897

      #31667
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Yeah but redtails promotes the country in a patriotic, militaristic way and its history and we can't have that either because of obviously all the evil.

      Plus wasn't George "Washington" problematic also?
      Last edited by TheMatrix31; 07-03-2020, 01:48 PM.

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      • TheShizNo1
        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
        • Mar 2007
        • 26341

        #31668
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        This is where the "everyone is offended by everything" rhetoric doesn't work here, man.

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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52897

          #31669
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
          This is where the "everyone is offended by everything" rhetoric doesn't work here, man.

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          So what's next on the list once this one gets solved?

          But really, I do love the promotion of a name with a military history considering most of the people advocating for forcing a name change can't stand the military even in the slightest.

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #31670
            NFL Off Topic

            Black folk and Native Americans can’t stand the Military?

            Hmm, that’s...interesting.
            Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 07-03-2020, 02:46 PM.
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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52897

              #31671
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              [emoji848]Black folk and Native Americans can’t stand the Military?

              Hmm, that’s...interesting.
              No.

              I was criticizing the people who co-opt every movement and take umbrage with every single thing even though they have no ties to anything at hand. The ones who have a desire to just be part of something, so as not to appear any other way. The reddit-y, virtue signaling, photo filter, hashtagging, "there, that's better" "phew, we did it" types. That venn diagram is a big fat circle.
              Last edited by TheMatrix31; 07-03-2020, 02:51 PM.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42509

                #31672
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                We don’t need no damn Washington Senators.

                Nobody here cares about that name anymore, lol. That being said, I’d be surprised if Snyder doesn’t budge considering how much he wants that Stadium.
                I wouldn’t mind Washington Senators because that was the team name in The Replacements.


                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                No.

                I was criticizing the people who co-opt every movement and take umbrage with every single thing even though they have no ties to anything at hand. The ones who have a desire to just be part of something, so as not to appear any other way. The reddit-y, virtue signaling, photo filter, hashtagging, "there, that's better" "phew, we did it" types. That venn diagram is a big fat circle.
                People today (and why this is one of my favorite recent Family Guy moments):


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                Not saying the Redskins name shouldn't be changed, but I personally am totally okay if it isn't. I know I might feel differently if it was applied to my culture, because I was ingrained with the name in my mind growing up without a second's thought of the possible tie-ins or defamation.

                They should call themselves the Washington Middlers.
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                • TheShizNo1
                  Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 26341

                  #31673
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  I know I might feel differently if it was applied to my culture....
                  Smh.... you don't understand why thoughts like these are a huge problem?!

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42509

                    #31674
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                    Smh.... you don't understand why thoughts like these are a huge problem?!

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                    No no I understand it completely. The portion afterward explains it more so. I’m saying that growing up, it was a team name. Meant nothing one way or the other. It was an accustom unrelated to a culture basis.

                    But when I apply it to a hypothetical scenario and say what if next year a team name came out called the Negros, I’d say: “... Okay now I gotcha.”

                    If my context isn’t making sense, I’m sorry about that. I’m not saying that I’m oblivious to the fact.

                    At the same time, I’m not liking that it takes a sensitive woke culture to point this fact out. It should’ve been pointed out when the name was suggested in the first place. If it was then I’m once again unaware.
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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #31675
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      Yeah you were just unaware. This is not a remotely new issue.
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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42509

                        #31676
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        Yeah you were just unaware. This is not a remotely new issue.

                        Shoot, until just about eight years ago I didn’t even know that the Wizards and Redskins weren’t in Washington state.

                        Consider me a moron on many fronts. I think I just know a little about math and movies.
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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52897

                          #31677
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                          Smh.... you don't understand why thoughts like these are a huge problem?!

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                          The thoughts will never change. And you can't tell anyone their way of thinking is a problem. And you shouldn't, either, because once you get into policing, determining the worthiness of people's thoughts, etc, that's a whole helluva different level. Because this isn't Iran or Russia or China, try as some might.

                          Any change to this name, to that logo, to this rule, to that set of words, to this cast member, to that movie/show catalog on that service, is pure window dressing and superficial as hell only done to shut people up. People aren't haven't their minds changed. They're just acting trying to shut people up hoping that the crocodile won't want to eat them anymore. And that's sad.

                          It's pretty patronizing, tbh. I'd hate if someone bent over backwards just to appease me, etc because I'd know it's all fake.

                          But the people don't care because it's not about those things. Not at all. You think people *actually* care about the name of a football team? Of ****ing course not. It's just one big power flex and it's always been that. And it's getting worse because nobody says "that's ****ing stupid, get a life."

                          This has re-emerged to the top of the item list. And once it happens we'll just move on to the next thing. I've warned about slippery slopes on so many things for years on this site and literally everywhere else to no avail and have been mocked and denigrated for daring to suggest "hey, maybe not a good idea." There has been nothing over the last however many years to suggest I was incorrect about my earnings.

                          But whatever. Y'all can have it. I'm ready to hear what's next. This topic is old AF. Only reason I'm even "back in the game" so to speak is because I have to be online to track virus news. Can't wait for it to be over so I can sink back into the shadows. I liked not giving a **** about all the dumb bull**** everyone acts like they care about.
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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21554

                            #31678
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Just change the team mascot to a redskin potato. Problem solved.

                            But seriously, I would go with the Washington Redtails as well. Given the current political moment and well-documented racist history of the current team (which, among other things, was the last NFL team to integrate black players onto its roster), it'd be a thoughtful attempt to reach an olive branch and repair a strained relationship with football fans in the DMV area. There's a reason there are so many Cowboys fans there.

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                            • Jr.
                              Playgirl Coverboy
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19171

                              #31679
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                              The thoughts will never change. And you can't tell anyone their way of thinking is a problem. And you shouldn't, either, because once you get into policing, determining the worthiness of people's thoughts, etc, that's a whole helluva different level. Because this isn't Iran or Russia or China, try as some might.

                              Any change to this name, to that logo, to this rule, to that set of words, to this cast member, to that movie/show catalog on that service, is pure window dressing and superficial as hell only done to shut people up. People aren't haven't their minds changed. They're just acting trying to shut people up hoping that the crocodile won't want to eat them anymore. And that's sad.

                              It's pretty patronizing, tbh. I'd hate if someone bent over backwards just to appease me, etc because I'd know it's all fake.

                              But the people don't care because it's not about those things. Not at all. You think people *actually* care about the name of a football team? Of ****ing course not. It's just one big power flex and it's always been that. And it's getting worse because nobody says "that's ****ing stupid, get a life."

                              This has re-emerged to the top of the item list. And once it happens we'll just move on to the next thing. I've warned about slippery slopes on so many things for years on this site and literally everywhere else to no avail and have been mocked and denigrated for daring to suggest "hey, maybe not a good idea." There has been nothing over the last however many years to suggest I was incorrect about my earnings.

                              But whatever. Y'all can have it. I'm ready to hear what's next. This topic is old AF. Only reason I'm even "back in the game" so to speak is because I have to be online to track virus news. Can't wait for it to be over so I can sink back into the shadows. I liked not giving a **** about all the dumb bull**** everyone acts like they care about.
                              This might be your most hypocritical post yet. Congrats!

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                              • zello144
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 2183

                                #31680
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Fedex field was built on an old native american burial ground. We are cursed until they change the name.

                                I grew up here. To me the Redskins name has always been associated with losing.

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