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[Dog]

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Oh First Down Freddie:

SMH. Bensalem is right near me, too

Lots of people live in NY and he's the QB. Not rocket science.

But it doesn't mean it isn't funny

[SPTO]

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Can a 1st round QB be a bust in the modern age NFL?

Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give my thoughts before I go to bed.

(Yes I know about JeMarcus Russell but he's an outlier)

[Chrisksaint]

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Very easily, I'd consider Mark Sanchez getting into that bust area the way he's been playing and where he was drafted. There are plenty of others this past decade as well just don't feel like going through them all right now.

[TracerBullet]

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Can a 1st round QB be a bust in the modern age NFL?

Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give my thoughts before I go to bed.

(Yes I know about JeMarcus Russell but he's an outlier)

Define modern age. I mean, I can go dig out the Joey Harrington jersey in my closet and stare at it until I die a little inside if that's what you want SPTO.

[SPTO]

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Define modern age. I mean, I can go dig out the Joey Harrington jersey in my closet and stare at it until I die a little inside if that's what you want SPTO.

LOL....Yeah sorry.

Let's say 2007 onwards.

[Chrisksaint]

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I think a bust also depends on where a guy is taken combined with expectations.

1st round guys that been meh/sucked since '07:
Brady Quinn
Jamarcus Russel
Mark Sanchez

Guys that I'd consider that could be candidates in a few years:
Blaine Gabbert
Tim Tebow
Josh Freeman

There weren't as many as I thought at first since were only going to '07

[Dog]

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Very easily. Just watch

[SPTO]

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Okay so basically I asked the question because the morning show guys were discussing this. It seems the QB position is, well not getting easier but so much of the college stuff is being run in the pros these days that the transition is easier. I personally think there'll always be guys who disappoint but I don't think we're gonna see massive flops like JaMarcus Russell anytime soon.

[kingkilla56]

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Jamarcus Russell was the biggest bust qb since Ryan Leaf. I dont think he should be the standard of a bust qb because they're arent many 1st overall picks who were base heads and lazy walruses who had zero heart in what they did the second they cashed in their bonus checks.

It all depends on what you count as a bust. If a guy goes top 5 must he be an all pro? Superbowl champ? 30td qb? It depends on the context of your definition of a bust.

For example, imo Mark Sanchez is not a bust.

[rangerrick012]

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I just became a fan of Arian Foster after seeing his press conference yesterday.

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I know a lot of these guys have struggles coming up, but its always great to see a guy not afraid to show emotion.

[wwharton]

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Jamarcus Russell was the biggest bust qb since Ryan Leaf. I dont think he should be the standard of a bust qb because they're arent many 1st overall picks who were base heads and lazy walruses who had zero heart in what they did the second they cashed in their bonus checks.

It all depends on what you count as a bust. If a guy goes top 5 must he be an all pro? Superbowl champ? 30td qb? It depends on the context of your definition of a bust.

For example, imo Mark Sanchez is not a bust.

Sanchez should've been a project coming out of school early. Instead he hasn't had a consisten group of wideouts yet, and the neglect to the oline has caused his play and the running game to suffer. Meanwhile, he's been the QB of a team that's gone to back to back AFC championship games just a year ago. No reason to call him a bust.

[SPTO]

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Sanchez should've been a project coming out of school early. Instead he hasn't had a consisten group of wideouts yet, and the neglect to the oline has caused his play and the running game to suffer. Meanwhile, he's been the QB of a team that's gone to back to back AFC championship games just a year ago. No reason to call him a bust.

I agree with this and let's not forget that the NYJ as a team seem to have some real issues in the locker room. That's bound to stunt a young QB's growth IMO.

[illwill10]

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I am not sure what type of statistical season Andrew Luck will have. Their top 2 WRs are going to be gone, run game isnt that good, and they have some needs at OL. Dalton and Newton benefited from having solid weapons to throw to and having a good run game(sometimes) to lean on.
I think Collie and Clark will be his main targets. They HAVE to get more weapons for him.

[av7]

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2 Broncos failed drug tests but apparently its like a Ryan Braun case with tampering. Ryan McBean and DJ Williams are taking it to court.

Edit- And now they're saying Virgil Green is suspended for 4 games for a failed test

[l3ulvl]

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I kinda hope the new rookie payscale rules will keep the QBs from mailing it in after landing such a massive deal without playing a down. I mean I know it's still big money, but at least now they'll have incentive to earn a major deal if they perform.

Also, Washington: wth?