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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #10966
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
    So apparently at some point the New York Times invented a bot that uses statistical analysis to analyze decisions on 4th down in real time and decide whether the coach was right in their decision or wrong.



    Spoiler Alert: Most coaches are dinosaurs, the Bot is not. So there's a lot of disagreement.
    I know they got the ball back after punting but I think the Browns cost themselves a chance of a win by not going for it on fourth the Steelers 40.

    And I'm generally more on the conservative side.

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    • kingkilla56
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2009
      • 19395

      #10967
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Man Harbaugh isnt going anywhere.
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      • Kaiser Wilhelm
        MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 2790

        #10968
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
        So apparently at some point the New York Times invented a bot that uses statistical analysis to analyze decisions on 4th down in real time and decide whether the coach was right in their decision or wrong.



        Spoiler Alert: Most coaches are dinosaurs, the Bot is not. So there's a lot of disagreement.
        The bot seems to assume every team should go for it in any situation under 5 yards. I mean, nobody should be going for it in their own territory when they don't have to.
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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #10969
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
          The bot seems to assume every team should go for it in any situation under 5 yards. I mean, nobody should be going for it in their own territory when they don't have to.
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          • Maelstrom-XIII
            Pro
            • Apr 2009
            • 835

            #10970
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            It's weird to me that, while coaches are overwhelmingly more conservative than the 4thDownBot pretty much everywhere, 4th & 10 at around the opponents 35 is prime "go for it" decision time for both.

            Just a weird down and distance to be matched up on.

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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47439

              #10971
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Only week 1 but still....Jets,Dolphins,Bills are on top the division while Pats are in last. Funny to see that.

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2790

                #10972
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by ubernoob
                So the bot is under the assumption that 4th and 1 is a 100% chance of conversion. Okay. That bot would lose far more games than it would win.
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                If anybody is interested in a "spiritual successor to the socom franchise, check out this thread.

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                • gopher_guy
                  The Kaptain
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 7389

                  #10973
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                  So the bot is under the assumption that 4th and 1 is a 100% chance of conversion. Okay. That bot would lose far more games than it would win.
                  No, it doesn't mean that they think you will convert 100% of the time. It just means that, in their analysis, the odds work out better to go for it (assuming you get it about half the time, which I think is about what the numbers are), than to give up possession of the ball.

                  I remember seeing a thing on ESPN about a high school coach who never punts it. Goes for it every single time, regardless of where he is on the field.

                  His rationale: If you're 4th and 1 on your own 1 yard line, you have about a 50% chance of converting.

                  If you punt, the other team is going to get the ball at probably about midfield, they have roughly a 70% chance of scoring from that field position. If they get it at the 1, they have about a 93% chance. There's not that much of a difference in their odds of scoring. And you have a coin flip to keep the ball in your possession.

                  Don't remember the exact numbers but they were in that ballpark.
                  Last edited by gopher_guy; 09-07-2014, 11:52 PM.
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                  • TracerBullet
                    One Last Job
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 22119

                    #10974
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Graham Gano, a Panther amongst Wildcats:



                    Originally posted by BlueNGold
                    I feel weird for liking a post about exposed penises.

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                    • ubernoob
                      ****
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 15522

                      #10975
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      I hope that anyone that stuck up for Ray Rice in this ordeal takes a good long hard look at the elevator video of him absolutely waxing his wife.
                      bad

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #10976
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by ubernoob
                        I hope that anyone that stuck up for Ray Rice in this ordeal takes a good long hard look at the elevator video of him absolutely waxing his wife.

                        Video is infuriating to watch

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #10977
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Rice should be done in the NFL

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                          • kingkilla56
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19395

                            #10978
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            I cant believe they had this woman apologizing at a press conference for that. The video is outrageous. Goodell couldn't possibly have seen that video and thought 2 games was gonna fly.
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                            • Seahawk76
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1394

                              #10979
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              That Ray Rice video was even worse than I expected it to be. I figured for only a two game suspension and no jail sentence there must have been some mitigating factor where Rice was defending himself from an attack by his psycho fiance or something. This was all Rice. It looks like he spit in her face in the hallway, took a swipe at her on the elevator and then cold cocked her when she came after him. Disgusting.

                              Good thing he didn't light up a joint in the elevator though or the league would have really brought the hammer down. Goodell should be fired.
                              Last edited by Seahawk76; 09-08-2014, 08:10 AM.

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                              • gopher_guy
                                The Kaptain
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 7389

                                #10980
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                If he gets cheered in his first game back in Baltimore, I swear...

                                The NFL should be embarrassed how they handled it.
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