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  • Aggies7
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    • Jan 2005
    • 9495

    #8581
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    This rule is dumb. Leave it alone. I honestly don't know why they care about this all of a sudden. Sounds like a giant PR stunt.

    And to the point above me, kids wont stop saying it because random player on TV, who they've never actually heard say it during a game, is saying it.

    In my opinion I agree to an extent that it's a PR stunt, but I think it has a lot to do with the Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin issue.
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    • jmood88
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      • Jul 2003
      • 34639

      #8582
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by Aggies7
      In my opinion I agree to an extent that it's a PR stunt, but I think it has a lot to do with the Richie Incognito and Jonathan Martin issue.
      If that's the case, then it just shows how clueless everyone is in the NFL.
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      • Fresh Tendrils
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        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #8583
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by jmood88
        If that's the case, then it just shows how clueless everyone is in the NFL.
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        • Gman 18
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          • Jul 2012
          • 2902

          #8584
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          If they are gonna give teams a pentalty for one of its players using the n-word, they might as well do the same for all racial slurs players say or just dont give a penalty at all for it

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          • LowerWolf
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            • Jun 2006
            • 12261

            #8585
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by Gman 18
            If they are gonna give teams a pentalty for one of its players using the n-word, they might as well do the same for all racial slurs players say or just dont give a penalty at all for it

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            Unless I'm mistaken, I think that's the idea. I don't think it's limited to that one word. Though I'm sure that word is a focal point of the rule.

            I don't know how they possibly police it, but it seems sad to me that it has to be policed to begin with.

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            • mestevo
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              • Apr 2010
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              #8586
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              The rule is already in place for abusive language, this rule is legislating out any gray area where the N-word was perceived to be acceptable on the field.

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              • elgreazy1
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                • Apr 2007
                • 2996

                #8587
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Kinda sad when a league is more concerned hurtful words than hurtful hits. I'm sure most DLinemen would gladly be called a racial slur if they were promised to not get blocked at the knee. I'm sure guys like Dustin Keller would take the trade-off, as well.
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                • mestevo
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19556

                  #8588
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Originally posted by elgreazy1
                  Kinda sad when a league is more concerned hurtful words than hurtful hits. I'm sure most DLinemen would gladly be called a racial slur if they were promised to not get blocked at the knee. I'm sure guys like Dustin Keller would take the trade-off, as well.
                  How does a rule proposal cancel out all of the defenseless receiver and other hits-related legislation that have completely changed the game at some positions. I get your point, but you didn't need to take the hyperbole to 11 to make it.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #8589
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    They're opening up a whole can of worms if they actually try to police the word more than they do now. And you can believe the race card will no doubt get played, especially in a sport where the majority of your players are Black.

                    The suits upstairs need to just leave it alone.
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                    • NDAlum
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #8590
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

                      I think all slurs are just that...slurs. There shouldn't be a double standard as in "well in this context or said by this person a slur isn't really a slur but in this context or said by this person it is".

                      This isn't a pickup game of football. It's not just a game anymore. It's a business, an empire, a worldwide brand. How hard is it to really go out there and play the game without using slurs?
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                      • kingkilla56
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                        • Jun 2009
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                        #8591
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by NDAlum
                        I think all slurs are just that...slurs. There shouldn't be a double standard as in "well in this context or said by this person a slur isn't really a slur but in this context or said by this person it is".

                        This isn't a pickup game of football. It's not just a game anymore. It's a business, an empire, a worldwide brand. How hard is it to really go out there and play the game without using slurs?
                        Who is hearing these slurs that the league is worried about their brand? You make it sound like NFL Films and ESPN has players slinging slurs left and right on their programs. You can't hear what players are saying outside of a QBs cadence.

                        Adding this rule is giving the illusion that the NFL is trying to clean up their league. But its not gonna do anything to change the culture. Its a vapid rule that is completely PR because of the Johnathan Martin, and somewhat Michael Sam situations.

                        If this was such a major issue the players would police it themselves. you would hear them complain about it and end it. But no, players don't think twice about it because its a non issue. 100% league trying to gain positive attention, after getting flamed recently.

                        But you telling me its a great thing that a ref is gonna decide that x player said a bad word, 15 yards. GTFO with that bull****. I'd be stunned if the refs threw a single flag next year if this rule went into affect.
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                        • slickdtc
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                          • Aug 2004
                          • 17125

                          #8592
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by NDAlum
                          This isn't a pickup game of football. It's not just a game anymore. It's a business, an empire, a worldwide brand.
                          This, which is why they're doing...

                          Originally posted by kingkilla56
                          Adding this rule is giving the illusion that the NFL is trying to clean up their league. But its not gonna do anything to change the culture. Its a vapid rule that is completely PR because of the Johnathan Martin, and somewhat Michael Sam situations.
                          ...this.

                          The rule is already on the books, they're just highlighting it with this talk. It'll probably get called more then last year, but I don't think it'll be a flagfest by any means.
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                          • NDAlum
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                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11453

                            #8593
                            Re: NFL Off Topic

                            Originally posted by kingkilla56
                            Who is hearing these slurs that the league is worried about their brand? You make it sound like NFL Films and ESPN has players slinging slurs left and right on their programs. You can't hear what players are saying outside of a QBs cadence.

                            Adding this rule is giving the illusion that the NFL is trying to clean up their league. But its not gonna do anything to change the culture. Its a vapid rule that is completely PR because of the Johnathan Martin, and somewhat Michael Sam situations.

                            If this was such a major issue the players would police it themselves. you would hear them complain about it and end it. But no, players don't think twice about it because its a non issue. 100% league trying to gain positive attention, after getting flamed recently.

                            But you telling me its a great thing that a ref is gonna decide that x player said a bad word, 15 yards. GTFO with that bull****. I'd be stunned if the refs threw a single flag next year if this rule went into affect.
                            So much emotion...

                            Anyways, I'm simply stating I support the NFL in their efforts to clean up the language. I don't believe I ever said it's a "great thing".
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                            • Fresh Tendrils
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #8594
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              I think all slurs are just that...slurs. There shouldn't be a double standard as in "well in this context or said by this person a slur isn't really a slur but in this context or said by this person it is".

                              This isn't a pickup game of football. It's not just a game anymore. It's a business, an empire, a worldwide brand. How hard is it to really go out there and play the game without using slurs?
                              But context is key, though. Its how language evolves and how words change over time.



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                              • TheShizNo1
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                                • Mar 2007
                                • 26341

                                #8595
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                                But context is key, though. Its how language evolves and how words change over time.
                                And if this can't be understood, then you just won't get it. Because others cannot understand the context of the word doesn't mean it doesn't matter.

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