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[kaletore11]

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If Checkdown Charlie had a 14 year NFL career, Tebow sure derserved more than 3.

You know who else spent 3 season on an NFL roster? Tyler Palko.

[Sportsforever]

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I figured we ALL watched Sports to watch the BEST players play, which is why I asked anyone to help me understand, especially in Tebow's case.

Let me stop beating around the bush: What is the fascination that people have with a ****ty QB like Tebow get another chance just to be ****ty on another team? It was the same thing with Vince Young too.

I'll add something about Tebow for me personally…

On two levels, I'm going to be interested in him…I'm a Gator fan and watched him for 4 years at Florida.

Secondly, my father in law works with him with FCA. I am in the military…one day my father in law was telling Tim what a huge Gator fan I am. Tim asked for my address…two weeks later, with me knowing, a picture of Tebow with a personalize message on it shows up at my door. It hangs in my office now and is one of the coolest things I've ever gotten…and I don't even do autographs.

Of course I'm going to be interested in how he does…

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Maybe people enjoy watching him play, despite his lack of ability? Don't they have that right? I find it odd that it would even bother you…who cares if he gets a chance, if he does anything, etc…it doesn't affect you, so why should you care? As a kid my favorite players weren't superstars…is that wrong?

I enjoy watching the best players, but that isn't why I watch sports at all…if they were all Aaron Rodgers it would get boring.

It actually doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I don't have a fascination with Tebow. I just don't get why some are so easy to say he's a ****ty QB and shouldn't be a starting QB but he has a winning record when he starts and has a playoff win. He's had better success than a lot of ****ty QBs that get more opportunities.

Id rather have more players like Tebow who are positive and doesn't get in trouble compared to others in the NFL.

This is the problem I have when people use stats without any context. Because they can make ANY player look good.

As for your second point, there actually are a LOT of players like Tebow who are positive and don't get into trouble. A LOT more than the ones that do get in trouble but the problem is the few that do get in trouble get a lot more attention than the ones that don't.

[Sportsforever]

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It actually doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Then why make a post saying you don't get it? It's like me saying "I don't get why people are Packer fans"…just because I'm not.

Just to be clear, I don't think Tebow 'deserves' anything from the NFL or any team…if he doesn't get a chance he'll be fine, I'll be fine. I certainly would like to see him get a chance though…I enjoy watching him play.

[Jr.]

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As for your second point, there actually are a LOT of players like Tebow who are positive and don't get into trouble. A LOT more than the ones that do get in trouble but the problem is the few that do get in trouble get a lot more attention than the ones that don't.

Which will always be the case. Which story are you more likely to read?

"NFL player goes home after game, eats dinner with family, asleep at 10:15 pm"

OR

"NFL player arrested and charged with (whatever)"

[dickey1331]

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It actually doesn't bother me in the slightest.


This is the problem I have when people use stats without any context. Because they can make ANY player look good.

As for your second point, there actually are a LOT of players like Tebow who are positive and don't get into trouble. A LOT more than the ones that do get in trouble but the problem is the few that do get in trouble get a lot more attention than the ones that don't.

I used stats earlier in the thread to compare Tebow to Vick and Brady. I didn't say he was good or would be good but he isn't terrible and he won. Rather that was due to him or not he still won and most people only care about winning.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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If Checkdown Charlie had a 14 year NFL career, Tebow sure derserved more than 3.

You know who else spent 3 season on an NFL roster? Tyler Palko.

And guess where he's at now?

Spoiler

Out of the league

[kaletore11]

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And guess where he's at now?

Spoiler

Out of the league

Of course he is, you can't seriously say Tebow's not better than Palko and other QB's of that caliber.

And I realize how all the conundrum about him can annoy people, even though it's not his fault.

I forgot what point I was trying to make, time to leave this discussion.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Then why make a post saying you don't get it? It's like me saying "I don't get why people are Packer fans"…just because I'm not.

Me asking a question means I'm bothered by it?

And it really isn't, but I digress

I used stats earlier in the thread to compare Tebow to Vick and Brady. I didn't say he was good or would be good but he isn't terrible and he won. Rather that was due to him or not he still won and most people only care about winning.

Has the bar been lowered to the point where now just winning ONE playoff game in their career is a big accomplishment now? Or means they don't stink?

Rex Grossman has won 2 playoff games and people still say he sucks.
Mark Sanchez went to 2 AFC Championship Games in his first 2 years and people say he sucks too.

If we're going to use numbers, at least have some sort of context involved in it.

[Sportsforever]

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Me asking a question means I'm bothered by it?

And it really isn't, but I digress

You asked the question and I have answered personally why I am interested in Tebow. Why did you make the original statement?

[dickey1331]

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Me asking a question means I'm bothered by it?

And it really isn't, but I digress

Has the bar been lowered to the point where now just winning ONE playoff game in their career is a big accomplishment now? Or means they don't stink?

Rex Grossman has won 2 playoff games and people still say he sucks.
Mark Sanchez went to 2 AFC Championship Games in his first 2 years and people say he sucks too.

If we're going to use numbers, at least have some sort of context involved in it.

Did they get more than one season to start? Tebow only started one season so you don't have much to work with but for his one season he did pretty good.

[TheRealHST]

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Is there any reason why NFLs refs are mostly old men? You cant be in your 20s or 30s as a ref?

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[Sportsforever]

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Has the bar been lowered to the point where now just winning ONE playoff game in their career is a big accomplishment now? Or means they don't stink?

Rex Grossman has won 2 playoff games and people still say he sucks.
Mark Sanchez went to 2 AFC Championship Games in his first 2 years and people say he sucks too.

If we're going to use numbers, at least have some sort of context involved in it.

…and Grossman/Sanchez continue to get opportunities despite "sucking".

I'll be honest, I don't think either of them suck…if put in the right situation I think they can succeed. As fans it goes like this: Not Brady/Brees/Rodgers/Manning = SUCK. The truth is there is a large number of NFL QB's who are just…average; I'd put Grossman/Sanchez in that category.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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You asked the question and I have answered personally why I am interested in Tebow. Why did you make the original statement?

Because I didn't. Not sure how many ways I can say that.

You got some other BS from my original post that I didn't say or insinuated and it snowballed from there because you got bothered by it, especially considering who this is about. Because if this had been about Vince Young or Matt Leinart or anyone else, I guarantee you wouldn't have said a word.

…and Grossman/Sanchez continue to get opportunities despite "sucking".

Grossman hasn't started a game in 2 years and Sanchez might've just lost his job in NY and it's not like he was doing much to hold on to it.

[Jr.]

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Is there any reason why NFLs refs are mostly old men? You cant be in your 20s or 30s as a ref?

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They have to work their way up, is my guess.