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Are we as NFL fans ready to admit Peyton Manning has no business being ranked #2 when it comes to NFL quarterbacks? Top 5 for sure. Shouldn't be sniffing anything over the 4 spot in my opinion.Comment
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Based on one bad game? Brees and Rodgers have had them this year too, so has Brady btw.Comment
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Based on Manning continuing to throw up on the front of his jersey when the lights get the brightest.
Why is it so hard for people to admit Manning is overrated?Last edited by areobee401; 11-26-2013, 02:11 AM.Comment
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I mean brees did lose to the freaking Jets...who loses to the Jets? Oh wait ...Comment
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I can't think of a single post on this message board in recent memory that I disagree with more than this one.Last edited by Chip Douglass; 11-26-2013, 02:40 AM.I write things on the Internet.
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Well I don't think anyone is ignoring that he hasn't done the best in big games, it was practically all anyone talked about before he finally got the ring. That being said it'd be hard for be too begrudge anyone for thinking he's still up there be it 1,2,3,or 4.
I mean brees did lose to the freaking Jets...who loses to the Jets? Oh wait ...
Okay, so you want to go there. I understand you as a Raiders fan taking what happens between weeks 1-17 as a factor in the equation. But it all comes down to what you do when all eyes are on you. Manning fails time and time again.
Do you really want the robot that is Peyton Manning as you QB in the Playoffs? I don't.Comment
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I can see the "peyton comes up short in big games" thing but once he won a ring you can put all that to bed. His next big hurdle though is winning in the cold. Maybe that's why he went to Denver to prove that he can do that?
Who knows? "shrug"
FWIW, I'd LOVE Manning quarterbacking the Bills right nowMember of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
"Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. ParkerComment
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The best QB in the NFL? HA! Regular season doesn't mean a thing. I know you love to mix math and sports, but what he does in regular season games means nothing.
Would most fans want Peyton as their QB, yes. BUT that does not change the fact he is NOT the guy I'd want as my QB.Comment
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Brady hasn't been too successful in the playoffs in a while either. I can't violate and call Peyton a bum after one bad game.Comment
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Originally posted by areobee401Why is it so hard for people to admit Manning is overrated?
One comment on the "Manning can't win the big game" cliche: the idea that certain players are "clutch" and "chokers" is more of an ESPN construct than something based in reality. In fact, "choker" is pretty much the result of pervasive media narratives that get tagged onto players and then become hard to shake. I've often made the point about Tom Brady that if his career unfolded in the complete reverse, he would be the "WHOMG choker who puts up big stats QB", essentially Peyton Manning. Brady has been spectacularly mediocre in the playoffs since 2005, with his team losing 2 Super Bowls, 2 AFCCGs, and going one-and-done with a 14-2 juggernaut in 2010, yet he gets a pass because the narrative was already born in his case, and the facts got fixed around them.
The Pats/Saints game from earlier this year is a great example of this. Brady, on the second-to-last drive, threw what should have been a game-ending INT on a really bad pass, yet he was able to get the ball back, drive down the field, and throw a game-winning TD pass. We heard alot about the latter, but not the former. The narrative is fixed and all facts to the contrary get thrown out.
I'll stop there before this degenerates into another Brady v. Manning argument.I write things on the Internet.
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Do you really want the robot that is Peyton Manning as you QB in the Playoffs? I don't.Comment
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