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And I don't agree is that not allowed? Outside of his first year playing and his injury year Brady has throw no less than 492 passes in a season (413 the year he took over for Bledsoe).
Wilson's highest 452, so no I don't see much comparison between the two outside of being on winning teams.
He's not wrong and I'm not right. But please tell me more about Corey Dillon and Anthony Thomas.
Brady makes sorry WRs better. Wilson was gifted Jimmy Graham and Graham will be luck to catch 35 balls this season.Moderator
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To be fair, he is talking about their first 4 years in the league. And you're being extremely one sided if you don't take Wilson's rushing numbers into account...which is crazy because Wilson was a much more efficient passer than Brady too. Brady did play in a time where pass defense was much better however.-Rocky Balboa"Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."Comment
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You're right I'm not really taking the rushing into this, but I will acknowledge it a part of Wilsons game that he is great with. I just view the QB position differently, they are the distributor of the ball. In his first 3 years Brady had 1,541 pass attempts he was given the offense and was going with it. In his first three years Wilson has 1,252 attempts. Wilson is also playing in the pass friendly NFL where DBs can't touch WRs, defenses can't hit WRs and no one can touch the QB. Brady's first there years were in a vastly different NFL (as you have stated).
But Brady even in his early years, was a guy who made the talent around him better. While it appears to me that Wilson benefits from the talent and has actually made Jimmy Graham look worse (I am willing to entertain the thought that Graham has something to do with that) but then again when Brady had Moss (an elite WR talent), they damn near broke the league and Moss had far less in the tank than Graham at this point.
Am I hard on Wilson, sure I'll own that, but are we really gonna compare him to Brady even early in their careers. I think Wilson's early years compare more to Jim Kellys as a far as a passer of the footballModerator
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Early in their careers (four seasons of playing), Brady already had three SB rings, 2 SB MVPs, etc. It's impossible to compare their first four years because of Brady's success.
However, the original point - I think - was talking about why no one called Brady overrated. That's just false/mis-remembering. People called Brady overrated until about 07 when he started put up the regular season stats to match the postseason success. He was a "system QB." He had a great defense. He had the best coach of all time. He simply dink and dunks it. And on and on.
That isn't a terrible comparison. Success/stats/early career numbers, though, yeah. Wilson and Brady are not a good comparison.Comment
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I hope so but I only saw pieces of the game so I didn't see how he got him the ball... that makes a difference with predicting it happening consistently now.
Someone mentioned already, those deep balls started with separation or a speedster getting a step. I'm not saying Wilson is Tim Tebow and needs guys wide open. I'm talking about when a player isn't open and he throws it anyway bc his guy should win most of the time.
As you mentioned, he's had it drilled in his head not to take those chances, and the talent they've had on both offense (lack there of) and defense had a lot to do with that. So really, the comment isn't a knock on how he plays. But it is a problem if they want Graham to work out in their system. The best way to use Graham is different than anything he's been asked to do so far in his NFL career.
You are wrong. Mostly bc of what Beantown just stated. Plenty of people called Brady overrated for years. Plus who dislikes Wilson? An honest debate on where he's at in his career doesn't mean anyone hates him.Comment
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ESPN NFL: Seahawks RB Fred Jackson crashes car while drag racing teammate Marshawn Lynch near practice facility, TMZ reports.
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There are conflicting reports saying that Jackson was simply pulling out from practice and lost control. Cliff Avril is also citing the report as false.
In any case, my response: jhsgiufhbwiojerghiqo3yt;ipes;hgeoruslhgisblishvpsu igbosifgskjgnbldgpuispguisegisuegvildvoryfgqielrgr .agvsiopeybjWILLComment
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Yeah, just exiting the facility and going too fast is all.
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Fair enough.
That sounded ridiculous (though I wouldn't put it past athletes) which is why I added the "seriously".
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