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[ggsimmonds]

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Speaking of unis, the Colts should go back to wearing blue pants. Looks much better than all white. I hate the falcons jerseys too. Am I the only one who thinks their jerseys are ugly?

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The Colts' jersey is one of the designs that should not be altered.

I love their look.

[SPTO]

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The Colts' jersey is one of the designs that should not be altered.

I love their look.

He isn't talking about the Colts jersey but rather the Falcons.

I wish they'd go back to a variant of their Georgia look.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Belichick don't **** with Snitches:

It feels like forever ago, but it really wasn't that long ago when Eric Mangini and Bill Belichick paired up as one of the league's best coaching duos. From 2000-04, Mangini served as the Patriots' defensive backs coach before taking over as the defensive coordinator in 2005. In those six seasons, the Patriots won 63 regular-season games and three Super Bowls.

And then it all went to hell. Mangini left for the Jets and started what became known as Spygate, a scandal that cost the Patriots a first-round draft pick and money, and ultimately branded them as cheaters.

Speaking with the New York Post's Brian Costello in an article that was published Tuesday, Mangini -- now out of the NFL -- opened up on his damaged relationship with Belichick. He admitted that he regrets Spygate.

From the Post's article:

"Spygate is a big regret," Mangini said. "It wasn't supposed to go down the way it went down."

Mangini warned Jets security that the Patriots could be videotaping the Jets' signals during their game at Giants Stadium on Sept. 9, 2007. He knew this from his time in New England. Mangini wanted the Patriots stopped, but he never thought it would get reported to the league.

But Tannenbaum reported it to the NFL, and Spygate was born. The NFL fined Belichick $500,000 and the Patriots $250,000. They also were stripped of their first-round pick in the 2008 draft.
"There was no great value in what they were doing," Mangini said. "It wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth it to me personally. It wasn't worth it to the relationship."

Mangini went on to explain why he did report it, even if he acknowledged that the Patriots weren't gaining much by taping teams: because he didn't want to put the Jets at a competitive disadvantage, which makes sense. He added, however, that he cared about Belichick and the Patriots and didn't want to hurt them.

So clearly, he still regrets how his relationship with Belichick ended. He revealed to the Post that he hasn't held a real conversation with Belichick in a decade. In that same story, Mangini also offers some interesting insight into the brief Brett Favre era -- so go read it -- but let's stick with Spygate.
Though Mangini shouldn't feel bad for ratting out Belichick -- he would've been doing his team a disservice had he allowed the Patriots to film his signals -- he unintentionally ruined the Patriots organization's reputation. Would Deflategate really have mattered or generated any kind of interest if it had involved, say, the Bills or the Chargers? Because Spygate was already on the Patriots' record (and because they win, a lot), Deflategate turned into a giant scandal, even though the PSI levels of a few footballs hardly mattered in a blowout of a game.

Again, I'm not saying the Patriots were blameless in Spygate. I'm also not saying the Jets were wrong to report the Patriots. I'm guessing the other 30 teams were thankful they did that.
But from Mangini's perspective, the regret makes sense. He lost one of his friends and mentors, and he's no longer coaching in the NFL after his recent stint as the 49ers' defensive coordinator ended last year.

Meanwhile, Belichick is doing just fine in his post-Mangini years. He won another Super Bowl and remains the best coach in the league -- exemplified by the Patriots' 3-0 start without Tom Brady.

[mestevo]

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Josh Gordon is stepping away from football, going to rehab.

https://twitter.com/Browns/status/781607253665284096

[Speedy]

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Speaking of unis, the Colts should go back to wearing blue pants. Looks much better than all white. I hate the falcons jerseys too. Am I the only one who thinks their jerseys are ugly?

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I love the Titans jerseys but the Texas need a redo.

If only Tennessee would allow Houston to take on the Oilers stuff.

[slickdtc]

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Belichick don't **** with Snitches:

So basically Belichick is just a punk bitch because he cheated (however slight) and got called on it?

Not sure I'd want to be pals with that type of guy. He did something wrong. He got caught doing wrong. And he's mad at Mangini for what he brought on himself? Okay.

Look, I think Belichick is the greatest coach of the last 30 years. He's perfect for this era of football. But in the face of adversity, he acts like a sore loser baby. His attitude after the first Super Bowl versus NYG has stuck with me -- he definitely thought that was his game and when it didn't go as expected he acted like a punk immediately after the game.

I know, I know. Right after an emotional game like that it's hard to be gracious in a loss. But hundreds of coaches have. Shake their hand, congratulate them, and go wallow in the locker room like a man.

[Beantown]

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Someone you're friends with reports you at your job for doing something wrong, something that up until you two were going for for the same promotion he was also doing, and you get in trouble and your reputation is "ruined," you're telling me you keep that guy in your life? Come on.

It's the best real-life comparison I can come up with. There's a zero percent chance I ever talk to that person again, but hey, maybe you're different.

I love the fact that my coach takes his job as seriously as he does. It's why he's arguably the best to ever do his job.

[kehlis]

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Yea, I don't think anyone likes their whistleblower in any line of business. Not really surprising.

[slickdtc]

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Someone you're friends with reports you at your job for doing something wrong, something that up until you two were going for for the same promotion he was also doing, and you get in trouble and your reputation is "ruined," you're telling me you keep that guy in your life? Come on.

It's the best real-life comparison I can come up with. There's a zero percent chance I ever talk to that person again, but hey, maybe you're different.

I love the fact that my coach takes his job as seriously as he does. It's why he's arguably the best to ever do his job.

I think a better example is you're both at the same company doing something wrong/illegal. He then gets a job with a rival company and reports to the authorities that you're doing something illegal/wrong because now his focus is on making his new company better then his old.

I can see how Belichick could be pissed about him getting crapped on even though Mangini was cool with it while he was still with the team, but at the end of the day, it was HIS decision to do something wrong and he had to know and therefore accept the consequences that when someone within the circle of trust moved on, they could come back on him like Mangini did. Plus, as the leader, when the crap hits the fan, it falls on leadership. You get the accolades when you're successful (when's the last time we counted his assistant's rings?), so you get the blame when things go wrong.

I guess I was being harsh about him not being friends with Mangini anymore. But that's not on Mangini, that's Belichick's burden to bear and he has no one to blame but himself. I suppose perhaps he's forgiven Mangini without extending a friendship back.

If it was me, I wouldn't have done the spying in the first place. And after this long, I think I would be okay with letting bygones be bygones. We're not gonna chill every other weekend, but I'm not gonna freeze you out like it sounds has happened to Mangini.

[ggsimmonds]

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I wouldn't be friends with the guy but I wouldn't put him on my ignore list either.

That said, I don't really know if they were truly friends or only work friends.

[wco81]

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I thought Bellichek didn't like that Mangini took the Jets job, so even if he didn't snitch, he was going to be salty.

Maybe if Mangini went to another division or conference.

He doesn't have to like it but there will be a well-deserved asterisk on his record. He flouted the rules, period.

[areobee401]

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Lady Gaga to perform the Super Bowl halftime show.

[SPTO]

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Lady Gaga to perform the Super Bowl halftime show.

Bathroom break for me.

[Beantown]

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Bathroom break for me.

Saw this post and thought you were referring to yet another "Belichick cheated *" conversation coming up in here Hahahaha

[areobee401]

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Browns WR Josh Gordon will enter in-patient rehab instead of return to the Browns after week 4.