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[mestevo]

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Janoris Jenkins to the Saints.

[jeebs9]

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Janoris Jenkins to the Saints.

They love former giant cornerback.

I wonder if this was something the Patriots were made aware of, and said "We don't want any part of this."

This is all besides the fact that he was on injured reserve while with them, of course.

I think your probably right. And Pete Carroll was like I'll lose him until he gets popped for a random drug test.

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[l3ulvl]

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I wonder if this was something the Patriots were made aware of, and said "We don't want any part of this."

This is all besides the fact that he was on injured reserve while with them, of course.

Un fact, he was also the videographer from the Bengals tape

[jeebs9]

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... Tim Coughlin out as GM for the Jags... Things kind of fell apart quick there.

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[kehlis]

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... Tim Coughlin out as GM for the Jags... Things kind of fell apart quick there.

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He wasn't the GM.

[jeebs9]

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He wasn't the GM.

My bad... VP football Operations

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[fugazi]

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The take on the Jags is "Coughlin's presence was the problem..." because he levied too many fines on players or whatnot.

Yeah. Relatively successful NFL coaching veteran of idk-how-many years, and his expectations of accountability, are the problems lol

I'm sure more lax discipline is going to shoot the Jags right to the top.

Players--Postition Coaches--Coordinators--Head Coach--GM...then Coughlin. He seems a bit removed from the minutiae of the game to be "the problem".

Expectations are high, according to the FO, for next year.

[TheShizNo1]

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You don't need to treat grown *** men like kids.

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[p_rushing]

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Yikes, so BOTH the PED and the substance abuse policies.

Some drugs can be laced with PEDs in small amounts, but still detectable specially if you are using a lot.

[slickdtc]

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Sounds like Coughlin wanted to be the hardass he always was without actually having the same relationship with players you do as a coach. So he came off as just an ******* because they didn’t even take their plays from him. He wasn’t in the trenches with them, so they had limited to no respect for him.

Breaking the CBA isn’t keeping the team disciplined either. It’s illegal. The only one that needed discipline was Coughlin, and the owner delivered that. And he was right to do so. Who wants to come to/stay in Jacksonville knowing it’s being run like a detention center? Coughlin thought he was running a tight ship, instead he was poking holes in it for any players on expiring contracts or potential free agents.

[p_rushing]

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The take on the Jags is "Coughlin's presence was the problem..." because he levied too many fines on players or whatnot.

Yeah. Relatively successful NFL coaching veteran of idk-how-many years, and his expectations of accountability, are the problems lol

I'm sure more lax discipline is going to shoot the Jags right to the top.

Players--Postition Coaches--Coordinators--Head Coach--GM...then Coughlin. He seems a bit removed from the minutiae of the game to be "the problem".

Expectations are high, according to the FO, for next year.

He was in charge of everything. He was on the sidelines during camp, made final decisions in the draft, etc. He also was the one who chewed out Ramsey for his fighting with Marrone.

You don't need to treat grown *** men like kids.

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Men don't show up late, miss treatments, etc without getting excused first. They should expect to be punished, but the issue is they have had almost 0 consequences in their life. If you fine them $1,000, they don't care so you have to fine them meaningful amounts.


TC had to go because he ignored the rules for what he could fine. Even though the players probably needed to be fined, the CBA says he couldn't and he still did.

[p_rushing]

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Sounds like Coughlin wanted to be the hardass he always was without actually having the same relationship with players you do as a coach. So he came off as just an ******* because they didn’t even take their plays from him. He wasn’t in the trenches with them, so they had limited to no respect for him.

Breaking the CBA isn’t keeping the team disciplined either. It’s illegal. The only one that needed discipline was Coughlin, and the owner delivered that. And he was right to do so. Who wants to come to/stay in Jacksonville knowing it’s being run like a detention center? Coughlin thought he was running a tight ship, instead he was poking holes in it for any players on expiring contracts or potential free agents.

He actually had too much power. While Marrone is the coach, the players know TC has the power and Marrone is just a body.

[kehlis]

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I don’t know, sounds like some of the fines were like the equivalent of my boss fining me for not spending my vacation in our break room at work.

No thanks.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Nobody’s played the “These spoiled athletes couldn’t take any real discipline so that’s why they cried to the NFLPA and their boss to get him fired” card yet?

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Nobody’s played the “These spoiled athletes couldn’t take any real discipline so that’s why they cried to the NFLPA and their boss to get him fired” card yet?

Pretty sure that's been covered a couple posts back.