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  • roadman
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2003
    • 26339

    #136
    Re: MVP Discussion Thread

    And I think pretty much everyone can say, without so and so megastar, we would be up a creek without a paddle.

    I'll say, what would the Packers be without Rodgers. Greg Jennings goes down, James Jones steps up. Jordy Nelson goes down, Randall Cobb steps up. Cedric Benson is out for the year, Alex Green, James Starks step up. James Starks is out, in comes Ryan Grant and Harris, a practice squad player. Out goes Bryan Bulaga for the year, in comes Evan-Dietrich Smith. Out goes TJ Lang, hello Don Barclay, a practice squad player.

    Teams have mostly been playing a deep Cover 2 on the Pack this year, so, the WR's don't beat them deep like last year. So, the Packers develop a running game and throw more underneath passes. Rodgers has had to run around for his life back there with the make shift OL and is a dual threat with his feet or arm.

    So, Rodgers doesn't have the numbers he did last year, but as he said, he's had the numbers in the past and the bottom line, is just win.

    I'm well aware Manning and Brady are having better stats than Rodgers, and therefore should be in consideration. AD is having a great season too coming off that surgery and should be in the conversation.

    Also, I don't agree with the system is greater than the QB analogy. The Packers have Graham Harrell as a backup QB. He came in against the Saints on the GL and immediately fumbled the hand off exchange. Harrell is rated the worse backup in the league and has looked terrible in preseason.

    You still need a OL to block for you, you still need the WR's to make catches(ask Jermichael Finley and James Jones of the past) and the QB still needs to make the throws.
    Last edited by roadman; 12-15-2012, 10:42 AM.

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    • ImTellinTim
      YNWA
      • Sep 2006
      • 33028

      #137
      Re: MVP Discussion Thread

      Even though he might not win the award, Adrian Peterson is the most valuable player to his team.

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      • 55
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #138
        Re: MVP Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
        Even though he might not win the award, Adrian Peterson is the most valuable player to his team.
        I still stand by post #113 in this thread.

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        • Bmore Irish
          The Future
          • Jul 2011
          • 3461

          #139
          Re: MVP Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by 55
          I still stand by post #113 in this thread.
          i think that's a solid assessment, but i'm holding out for my final judgement. Minnesota won again today, and AD had another big run for a score.

          If Minnesota ends up being a playoff team, then i think i give more credit to Peterson than any other player in contention at this point. It's splitting hairs, cause Manning and Brady are both great, no question, but to have that type of affect on your team as a RB, there's something to be said for that.

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          • thedudedominick
            MVP
            • Mar 2009
            • 3794

            #140
            Re: MVP Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Bmore Irish 69
            i think that's a solid assessment, but i'm holding out for my final judgement. Minnesota won again today, and AD had another big run for a score.

            If Minnesota ends up being a playoff team, then i think i give more credit to Peterson than any other player in contention at this point. It's splitting hairs, cause Manning and Brady are both great, no question, but to have that type of affect on your team as a RB, there's something to be said for that.
            I think this season will be a very close MVP vote, and of the guys being mentioned I would have no problem with any of them winning the award. Brady, Manning, Peterson, Rodgers are all guys that make their teams go. Whoever wins it will be deserving.
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            • BleacherBum2310
              All Star
              • Aug 2010
              • 7107

              #141
              Re: MVP Discussion Thread

              As Do I... I think Rodgers may go up depending on how the season ends.
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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #142
                Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Bmore Irish 69
                i think that's a solid assessment, but i'm holding out for my final judgement. Minnesota won again today, and AD had another big run for a score.

                If Minnesota ends up being a playoff team, then i think i give more credit to Peterson than any other player in contention at this point. It's splitting hairs, cause Manning and Brady are both great, no question, but to have that type of affect on your team as a RB, there's something to be said for that.
                Two big runs for scores actually. I don't see anyone stopping him from setting the single-season rushing record against completely stacked fronts. In what's supposed to be a league where you can't win without a good QB and passing game, he's single-handedly proving that wrong.

                He's like a mix between Jim Brown and Barry Sanders. Not quite as complete as Walter, but one of the best RBs we'll ever see. It's just a shame that like Barry, he's stuck in a crap organization.
                Last edited by ImTellinTim; 12-16-2012, 05:35 PM.

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                • BlueNGold
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 21817

                  #143
                  Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                  Even though I said I think Peyton will take home the MVP, I really, really hope AP can win it. Not only because he's my favorite active player but because I'm tired of always hearing the phrase "it's a passing league".
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                  • Stroehms
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2640

                    #144
                    After today, it's Adrian's award to lose.

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                    • z Revis
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 13639

                      #145
                      Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Stroehms
                      After today, it's Adrian's award to lose.

                      Sent from my Brain.
                      If Minnesota makes the Playoffs, AP is without a doubt the MVP in my opinion.
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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #146
                        Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by BlueNGold
                        Even though I said I think Peyton will take home the MVP, I really, really hope AP can win it. Not only because he's my favorite active player but because I'm tired of always hearing the phrase "it's a passing league".
                        But it'll still be a passing league even if AP were to win MVP.

                        It sucks but that's just the way it's been and will continue to be.
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                        • mestevo
                          Gooney Goo Goo
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19556

                          #147
                          I'd still take Manning taking a team that leaned heavily on it's defense and miracles to get to .500 to competing for the 1st seed in the conference.

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                          • gopher_guy
                            The Kaptain
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 7389

                            #148
                            Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ImTellinTim

                            He's like a mix between Jim Brown and Barry Sanders. Not quite as complete as Walter, but one of the best RBs we'll ever see. It's just a shame that like Barry, he's stuck in a crap organization.
                            You didn't seriously just equate the Vikings organization with the Lions, did you? :wink:
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                            • Bellsprout
                              Hard Times.
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 25652

                              #149
                              Originally posted by gopher_guy
                              You didn't seriously just equate the Vikings organization with the Lions, did you? :wink:
                              Neither organization has ever won a Super Bowl, so it seems fair.
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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52915

                                #150
                                Re: MVP Discussion Thread

                                I really wish Watt could be in on this discussion.

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