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  • Rosie23
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    • May 2014
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    #811
    Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by CardsFan27
    I think it's hard to push him that far down all based off a pro day, his body of work was good and I think if he can sit for a year he'll be fine.

    Wouldn't hate the pick at 26.

    its not all based off his pro-day tho, he really hasn't shown more then an average arm, he might be maxed out potential wise, and there have to be concerns about his hand (cant throw without a glove) and body size. His pro-day where he had a very very hard time completing deep passes were just another notch

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    • bradtxmale
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      #812
      Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Rosie23
      its not all based off his pro-day tho, he really hasn't shown more then an average arm, he might be maxed out potential wise, and there have to be concerns about his hand (cant throw without a glove) and body size. His pro-day where he had a very very hard time completing deep passes were just another notch
      Well, that's why I don't think he'll go in the 1st RD. I think he'll drop into the 2nd RD, to be honest.

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      • kingkilla56
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        #813
        Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

        But what about his history as an actual football player on an actual field? Too much is being made about that pro day man. Dude was the first overall pick before that, now he cant throw without gloves, too small, hands not big enough? Come on man.
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        • Rosie23
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          • May 2014
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          #814
          Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          But what about his history as an actual football player on an actual field? Too much is being made about that pro day man. Dude was the first overall pick before that, now he cant throw without gloves, too small, hands not big enough? Come on man.

          because his only history as a fooball players is at the college level or lower, if we just went on how they played in college every team in football would have 2-3 frachise QBs, guys like Colt McCoy, Colt Brennen, Timmy Chang, etc would be pro-bowl/ SB winnin QBs.

          theres things that just dont translate well to the NFL, and Bridgewater has a ton of them.

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          • IlliniM1ke
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            • Feb 2003
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            #815
            Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            But what about his history as an actual football player on an actual field? Too much is being made about that pro day man. Dude was the first overall pick before that, now he cant throw without gloves, too small, hands not big enough? Come on man.
            Fully agree, he comes from a pro style offense and he produced, hes shown toughness and played through injuries.

            If the Browns take him at 26 I won't be disappointed, I think hes going to have a hell of a career.
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            • kingkilla56
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              #816
              Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by Rosie23
              because his only history as a fooball players is at the college level or lower, if we just went on how they played in college every team in football would have 2-3 frachise QBs, guys like Colt McCoy, Colt Brennen, Timmy Chang, etc would be pro-bowl/ SB winnin QBs.

              theres things that just dont translate well to the NFL, and Bridgewater has a ton of them.
              Well every player's history is only the college level or lower before they enter the league. And before his pro day he was a consensus top 5 pick because of what he had done playing actual football and not beauty pageant football aka pro days and combines.

              I don't know what you mean with your "dont translate well to the NFL" comment. That reeks of espn pundit speech.
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              • Rosie23
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                • May 2014
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                #817
                Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                He wasn't a top 5 pick before his pro-day, i havent seen him as a top 5 pick since december. thats ok you believe the lies you have to, but he's not falling just because of his pro-day that you thinkis so meaningless, every single GM in football would be out of a job if that was their line of thought. its because he's the defintion of overrated, a created media sensation that played little sisters of the poor his career and got inflated stats out of it. When you look and break down his actual film he has alot of flaws that cant be fixed. I see Andy Dalton at best.

                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                Well every player's history is only the college level or lower before they enter the league. And before his pro day he was a consensus top 5 pick because of what he had done playing actual football and not beauty pageant football aka pro days and combines.

                I don't know what you mean with your "dont translate well to the NFL" comment. That reeks of espn pundit speech.

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                • IlliniM1ke
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                  #818
                  Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                  He was still the top rated QB going into his pro day.

                  *Edit - Didn't read your little sisters of the poor comment initially, whenever Bridgewater played tough competition he did what he did every other week and produced.
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                  • TripleCrown9
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                    • May 2010
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                    #819
                    Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Rosie23
                    He wasn't a top 5 pick before his pro-day, i havent seen him as a top 5 pick since december. thats ok you believe the lies you have to, but he's not falling just because of his pro-day that you thinkis so meaningless, every single GM in football would be out of a job if that was their line of thought. its because he's the defintion of overrated, a created media sensation that played little sisters of the poor his career and got inflated stats out of it. When you look and break down his actual film he has alot of flaws that cant be fixed. I see Andy Dalton at best.
                    I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying Bridgewater's projected stock is some kind of conspiracy or something? I sincerely hope that Cleveland drafts Bridgewater in the 1st.

                    Also, Dalton turned around a team not much better than Cleveland at the time and took them to the playoffs 2 years in a row.
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                    • Majingir
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                      #820
                      Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                      How long does the first round of the draft usually last?

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                      • TripleCrown9
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                        #821
                        Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        How long does the first round of the draft usually last?
                        The whole first night. 3 or 4 hours I think.
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                        • Rosie23
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                          #822
                          Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                          I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you saying Bridgewater's projected stock is some kind of conspiracy or something? I sincerely hope that Cleveland drafts Bridgewater in the 1st.

                          Also, Dalton turned around a team not much better than Cleveland at the time and took them to the playoffs 2 years in a row.

                          No Dalton didn't turn around anything, having one of the best defenses in football turned the Bengals around. you left out the part that they get spanked every year in the playoffs as well

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                          • volstopfan14
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                            • Jul 2010
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                            #823
                            Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                            If my team needed a quarterback and I could get Bridgewater at the end of the first or early second I'd be really happy with that.
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                            • Rosie23
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                              • May 2014
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                              #824
                              Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by CardsFan27
                              He was still the top rated QB going into his pro day.

                              *Edit - Didn't read your little sisters of the poor comment initially, whenever Bridgewater played tough competition he did what he did every other week and produced.

                              he played 1 good team his entire 3 years, not hard to get up for 1 game

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                              • Rosie23
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                                #825
                                Re: 2014 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                How long does the first round of the draft usually last?
                                4-5 Hours. Depending how much pre-draft coverage they get in before they start the actual first pick

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