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  • slickdtc
    Grayscale
    • Aug 2004
    • 17125

    #391
    2017 Transaction Thread

    Bills have played games with Tyrod Taylor's contract. Gave him 5/90M with a team out after Year 1. He ended up restructuring to 2/30M this offseason. He's going to see about half of the original number he signed for if he plays out this contract. The rest of the QB's fell in line this past spring. But Taylor isn't in Stafford's class, perceived or otherwise.

    Still, it was curious that certain teams didn't come knocking. The obvious candidates (Chicago sans Glennon at the time, Cleveland, Jacksonville) signed other options, drafted someone, stood pat, or a combination. It seemed Taylor was a borderline play for them and they all decided to go a different way.

    Of course, Washington is doing the franchise tag thing with Cousins for another example of a team approaching paying their clear cut, now-established starter in an unconventional way.

    I would love to see what would happen if a good QB got away from his original team. It's just not set up that way whether that's because of the franchise tag stuff or teams being deathly afraid of letting a QB with any track record walk. Heck, we've got a team in New England that won't let their #2 go without returning a king's ransom. And this is an organization that handles this type of stuff like a trained assassin - no feelings, all business.

    Actually, that's probably our best shot of seeing how the market plays. It'll be even more interesting to see if anyone ponies up in a trade before having to pay the man too.
    Last edited by slickdtc; 08-29-2017, 01:26 PM.
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    • LowerWolf
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2006
      • 12268

      #392
      Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

      Originally posted by LambertandHam
      Steelers trade a fourth to San Fran for a 5th and Vance Mcdonald. They needed help at TE, but aside from knowing the name, know almost nothing about Vance. They should have drafted a TE instead.
      Fast. Hands aren't great. Improved as a blocker. Had his best year last year and Baalke rewardec him with a big contract. Lynch/Shanny have been shopping him for awhile.

      Steelers could do worse though.

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      • TheShizNo1
        Asst 2 the Comm Manager
        • Mar 2007
        • 26341

        #393
        Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

        Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
        Ok, so where's the line when the range of outcomes (and it is a range, despite everyone always listing the worst QBs possible) behind door number B is a better alternative than the known mediocrity behind door number A? What QB is the first one a team says "nah, we can't do this." to?
        But I asked you what would the alternative be to Stafford at this point?

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        • dsallupinyaarea
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 2764

          #394
          Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

          Originally posted by TheShizNo1
          But I asked you what would the alternative be to Stafford at this point?

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          I'd let him play out the season and let the market determine his value. Why bid against yourself when he's not that good to begin with? If he walks and you have to start over, is it really the worst thing in the world? It's a QB heavy draft class and that cost is controlled. They'll be an unusual amount of similarly talented vets available next off-season.


          My biggest thing is I just don't see why they had to do this. It just seems like the laziest decision of the available options. Hitching your wagon to mediocrity over actually having to, gee I don't know, think/evaluate new talent.
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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #395
            2017 Transaction Thread

            You're against paying anyone, lol jk

            In all seriousness though, do you really believe this contract will prevent them from bringing in new talent?

            You say he's not that good to begin with(I disagree but that's another discussion for another day)yet the evidence suggests otherwise and that right there usually determines the market value for QBs.

            "Well, he had Calvin all these years so of course his numbers will look good". He didn't have Calvin last year and was an MVP candidate for most of the season sooooooo....yeah.


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            Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 08-29-2017, 02:51 PM.
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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52915

              #396
              Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

              I'd give up use of my left arm for a year to have Matthew Stafford on the Houston Texans.

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #397
                Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                Ravens give HC John Harbaugh a 1 year extension onto his current deal, which keeps him under contract thru 2019.

                He's entering his 10th season with the team as HC.
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                • dsallupinyaarea
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2764

                  #398
                  Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  I'd give up use of my left arm for a year to have Matthew Stafford on the Houston Texans.
                  and if I'm the Lions I'm calling you and seeing exactly what "left arm" means as far as trade assets because I'm just not signing up for 5 more years of Stafford at that price. It's year 9, we know what he is at this point and we know where that will take us. I'd have to try to build the team another way. Let that contract be another team's problem.
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                  • ProfessaPackMan
                    Bamma
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #399
                    Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                    Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                    Per PFT, the Browns are trying to trade CB Joe Haden.


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                    And now he's been released by the Browns.
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                    • cjonesfan921
                      UGH, next year
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 20081

                      #400
                      Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                      I generally agree with dsall, however, there's just nothing a team can do at this point. If the Lions let Stafford walk and don't find a franchise QB, it would be franchise suicide. Overpaying of QBs, relatively to everyone else, will only increase drastically as the years go by.

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                      • timmg
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1381

                        #401
                        Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                        joe haden cut

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                        • The Kid 24
                          It's Show Time!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 14765

                          #402
                          Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          And now he's been released by the Browns.
                          Steelers the favorites to land Haden.
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                          • SPTO
                            binging
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 68046

                            #403
                            Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                            Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                            I generally agree with dsall, however, there's just nothing a team can do at this point. If the Lions let Stafford walk and don't find a franchise QB, it would be franchise suicide. Overpaying of QBs, relatively to everyone else, will only increase drastically as the years go by.
                            Which is why the Redskins are playing with fire with their "negotiations" with Cousins. Honestly, I don't think Cousins is worth that kind of contract but you know damn well he and his agent are fishing around for that kind of money. It's going to take one of these big ticket QBs completely busting after signing their deals before teams start to pull back on some of these contracts.
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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52915

                              #404
                              Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                              Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
                              and if I'm the Lions I'm calling you and seeing exactly what "left arm" means as far as trade assets because I'm just not signing up for 5 more years of Stafford at that price. It's year 9, we know what he is at this point and we know where that will take us. I'd have to try to build the team another way. Let that contract be another team's problem.
                              Lamar Miller and two picks.

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                              • mestevo
                                Gooney Goo Goo
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19556

                                #405
                                Re: 2017 Transaction Thread

                                The #Browns have traded OL Cam Erving to the #Chiefs for a 2018 fifth round pick.

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                                Danny Shelton is the only Browns 1st round pick left on the roster from the 2009-2015 @NFL Drafts.

                                Browns' current 2018 picks:
                                Rd 1
                                Rd 1 (HOU)
                                Rd 2
                                Rd 2 (HOU)
                                Rd 2 (PHI)
                                Rd 3
                                Rd 4
                                Rd 4 (CAR)
                                Rd 5
                                Rd 5 (KC)
                                Rd 6
                                Rd 6 (PIT)
                                Rd 7
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