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  • illwill10
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2009
    • 19822

    #616
    Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
    My bold prediction is that the Watson trade will go down in hindsight as one of the worst deals ever made by the team that gets him. He's not going to be worth whatever a team gives up for him and the move will set that team back a few years.
    Originally posted by reyes the roof
    I tend to agree. I guess he could maybe have success with New Orleans at first but I’d say having the big lead that the Texans blew in the playoffs a few years ago vs KC will be the high water mark of his career
    It does seem like it might be ATL. If Ryan agreed to push back that bonus deadline a few days, that would allow Ryan to find a trade for himself since he also has a NTC. Where ATL is at now, to give up the required assets to get Watson, will push that rebuild even further. Not to mention the dead money hit they will get from trading Ryan. They got to hope that Watson's presence will bring some free agent WRs over that.

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    • bigbob
      MVP
      • Sep 2007
      • 10471

      #617
      Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
      Would be pretty wild of him or any player to be thinking this far out, especially when you’re trying to win a ring.

      Rodgers is here for at least 3 years so why the hell would he be worried about 2025 post Rodgers Era Packers?(not saying he is BTW, just talking out loud)
      Does Rodgers' contract allow for any kind of opt out after this year? If so, conspiracy theory. This was planned between him and Adams. He is still sour that the 49ers passed on him, so rather than choose them, he goes to the other California team that needs a quarterback.

      If there is no opt out, it makes zero sense if he is trying to win a ring. You leave a division where you are pretty much given to win every year because the Vikings , Bears, and Lions are all too incompetent to build a consistent team, and you go to a division and a team where you probably do not get out of and into the playoffs?

      As a Vikings fan, bye. As a football fan, what the hell are you doing, bro?

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      • ProfessaPackMan
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        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #618
        Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

        From what I’ve read, 2025 and 2026 are voidable years for Rodgers.

        A better breakdown of it:

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        • georgiafan
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 11099

          #619
          Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

          If Atlanta trades for Watson they will be one of the worst teams in the NFL next year. So odds are the 1st your giving up next year will also be in the top 10. Their is no way Atlanta is more then like a 7 win team when you factor in the supporting cast and Watson suspension that's coming. Atlanta doesn't have cap space so atleast this year no FA are coming even if they wanted to.

          Originally posted by illwill10
          It does seem like it might be ATL. If Ryan agreed to push back that bonus deadline a few days, that would allow Ryan to find a trade for himself since he also has a NTC. Where ATL is at now, to give up the required assets to get Watson, will push that rebuild even further. Not to mention the dead money hit they will get from trading Ryan. They got to hope that Watson's presence will bring some free agent WRs over that.
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          • IlluminatusUIUC
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            • Jan 2010
            • 2671

            #620
            Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by bigbob
            Does Rodgers' contract allow for any kind of opt out after this year? If so, conspiracy theory. This was planned between him and Adams. He is still sour that the 49ers passed on him, so rather than choose them, he goes to the other California team that needs a quarterback.

            Rodgers leaving the Packers for any reason (other than a suspension ala Ridley) would hammer the team with a mid-high ten-figure cap penalty. The earliest he could leave without completely detonating the team would be post June 1 in 2024.


            If there is no opt out, it makes zero sense if he is trying to win a ring. You leave a division where you are pretty much given to win every year because the Vikings , Bears, and Lions are all too incompetent to build a consistent team, and you go to a division and a team where you probably do not get out of and into the playoffs?

            As a Vikings fan, bye. As a football fan, what the hell are you doing, bro?

            Carr seems like a much more levelheaded guy, which counts for something. It's closer to home, its his original favorite team, and tbh as a megarich 29 year old I'd prefer Vegas to Wisconsin as well. And I enjoyed living in Wisconsin.
            Bills, Sabres, Illini, Cubs, basically any team that abuses its fanbase and I'm there.

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            • Jr.
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              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #621
              Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

              It's coming out that the Panthers were asked by Watson's agent to guarantee the 3rd and 4th years of his contract and the Panthers declined, which led to them being no longer considered.

              They were willing to trade 5-6 major assets for him, but didn't want to guarantee his age 30 and 31 seasons?

              This makes zero sense. If it's true, it just shows how much of a cluster**** the organization is right now. No direction at all

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              • reyes the roof
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2009
                • 11526

                #622
                Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                Bears are no longer signing Ogunjobi due to a failed physical

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                • kenp86
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                  • May 2008
                  • 2979

                  #623
                  Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                  being reported that Atlantas offer in something around AJ Terrell and multiple 1sts... If this is true, WTF is Atlanta doing?
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                  • ProfessaPackMan
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 63852

                    #624
                    Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by georgiafan
                    If Atlanta trades for Watson they will be one of the worst teams in the NFL next year. So odds are the 1st your giving up next year will also be in the top 10. Their is no way Atlanta is more then like a 7 win team when you factor in the supporting cast and Watson suspension that's coming. Atlanta doesn't have cap space so atleast this year no FA are coming even if they wanted to.
                    Record aside, they weren’t anything special or worth bragging about this year so it’s not like nothing would change.

                    But it’s not like they would be doomed forever or unable to rebuild their team going forward if a trade were to go down. We already know when he’s on the field, he’s one of the better QBs out there and we all know that some QBs can elevate the talent(especially at WR)with their play.
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                    • reyes the roof
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 11526

                      #625
                      Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by Jr.
                      It's coming out that the Panthers were asked by Watson's agent to guarantee the 3rd and 4th years of his contract and the Panthers declined, which led to them being no longer considered.

                      They were willing to trade 5-6 major assets for him, but didn't want to guarantee his age 30 and 31 seasons?

                      This makes zero sense. If it's true, it just shows how much of a cluster**** the organization is right now. No direction at all

                      https://twitter.com/jonmalexander/st...NxivICh18eyfrg
                      I suppose it could be a bit of insurance just in case he has more off the field issues and they need to release him, although I probably wouldn’t be willing to give up all the picks needed if I thought there was a chance he could get in more off the field trouble. Everything about this Watson trade is so strange

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #626
                        Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                        This extended Sam Darnald without seeing him take one practice but yet this is the line they don’t want to cross?

                        Heh
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                        • kenp86
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                          • May 2008
                          • 2979

                          #627
                          Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                          LMAO they might have too
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                          • georgiafan
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 11099

                            #628
                            Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                            It appears to be a lock from the player side that one of A.J or Dion Jones will be in the trade plus Jarret being cut. Three 1st plus some 2nds is unfortunately what I'm hearing also. Atlanta has two 2nd this year (julio trade)


                            Originally posted by kenp86
                            being reported that Atlantas offer in something around AJ Terrell and multiple 1sts... If this is true, WTF is Atlanta doing?

                            The reason Atlanta wasn't anything special this year is because the roster has basically zero talent outside of Pitts. You don't make a blockbuster trade for a QB when you have no foundation of a team. The talent would be even worse next year and your not going to have your 1st round pick. Right now Damian Williams is the starting HB and Olamide Zaccheaus and Frank Darby are the starting WR with a bad OL.

                            Watson hasn't proven he is the kind of QB to make the talent around him better. The front office also can't pick mid round guys and turn them into reliable players.

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            Record aside, they weren’t anything special or worth bragging about this year so it’s not like nothing would change.

                            But it’s not like they would be doomed forever or unable to rebuild their team going forward if a trade were to go down. We already know when he’s on the field, he’s one of the better QBs out there and we all know that some QBs can elevate the talent(especially at WR)with their play.
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                            • LambertandHam
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                              • Jul 2010
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                              #629
                              Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                              Schefter reporting Watson changed his mind and wants to play for the Browns now(link goes to his Twitter).
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                              • jasontoddwhitt
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                                • May 2003
                                • 8095

                                #630
                                Re: 2022 Offseason Thread

                                Maybe Baker will get that trade now lol


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