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  • tarheelguy4736
    Pro
    • Aug 2006
    • 853

    #31
    Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

    As a Panthers fan, trading with the Bears last year was one of the most stupid things they could have done. Lets look at what they gave up:

    Panthers got - #1 2023 - Bryce Young


    Bears got - #9 2023 - Darnell Wright
    2023 2nd Round (#61 pick) - Bears used this pick to trade up to #56 - Tyrique Stevenson
    #1 2024 -
    2025 2nd Round Pick
    DJ Moore - Had his best season since joining the NFL - 1,300+ yds and 8 Tds


    At least today the Panthers got rid of the guy (Fiterrer) that made this bone head trade. I mean they basically gave the Bears 5 potential starters for 1.

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    • Keirik
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 3770

      #32
      Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

      Originally posted by KG
      What’s the situation with Eberflus?

      I think that has a lot of bearing on what happens.


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      All signs are him coming back. As for the OC Getsy.....unsure. to me, that's the bigger issue. Some of the play calling ha been atrocious.
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      • KG
        Welcome Back
        • Sep 2005
        • 17583

        #33
        Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

        Originally posted by Keirik
        All signs are him coming back. As for the OC Getsy.....unsure. to me, that's the bigger issue. Some of the play calling ha been atrocious.

        That complicates things then. If he’s got another year (3yrs seems to be the standard gig length for an NFL coach) then I doubt he will want to develop another young QB when his job is on the line.

        If he does indeed stay then I think you trade down and grab a position of need. If you get a new coach then I think you draft a QB.


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        • adriano
          MVP
          • Aug 2003
          • 2808

          #34
          Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

          Originally posted by LowerWolf
          I didn’t realize Jones made more than $40M a year. QB deals really are absurd.
          I just looked up Gino Smith he is making 25 Million a year.
          Which is crazy, but Gino's contract feels right.

          I think had he been younger he would have pushed for more
          money. For him it was about starting and staying somewhere.

          Starting QB's get paid..

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          • adriano
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 2808

            #35
            Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

            I think the Bears sit on Fields and Draft their QB of choice.
            Maybe trade down and select their QB. No reason to trade
            Fields and no reason not to select a QB they want.

            Maybe Penix is a guy they want. We do not know a teams
            draft board. If their guy is lower, maybe they trade down.

            All I know is they are in a great position, solid defense and
            lots of picks and cap space..

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            • Keirik
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 3770

              #36
              Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

              Originally posted by KG
              That complicates things then. If he’s got another year (3yrs seems to be the standard gig length for an NFL coach) then I doubt he will want to develop another young QB when his job is on the line.

              If he does indeed stay then I think you trade down and grab a position of need. If you get a new coach then I think you draft a QB.


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              That makes a lot of sense. The flip side of the coin is if you get a new OC, you kind of reset a bit as well for Fields as he gets a fresh look at an offensive scheme. If you go new QB, you might as well tear the whole thing back down becsuse you likely lose a lot of good will in the room with guys ready to win sooner rather than later.

              I think Washington landing 2 is a big plus for the Bears because if they are able to make nearly the exact same trade as they did last year, there's a decent shot they get a top 3 (at the very least) in next years draft and still walk away this year's draft with Marvin Harrison JR AND a top edge rusher to compliment Sweat at 9. At worst, they create a bidding war between NE and WSH since both need a QB, but I think you go with whoever you deem will have a worse 2024 season, unless another blows you oit of the water.
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              • Hooe
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 21554

                #37
                Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                To add my opinion to things: I think the Bears must draft a QB in Round 1 this year with one of their two first-round picks.

                There are arguably five quarterbacks in this draft with Round 1 grades: Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both Top 5 locks, Jayden Daniels might be the consensus third-best guy, then Michael Penix and Bo Nix follow those three in some order (I see Penix dropping a bit mostly due to medical red flags, he's endured several season-ending injuries during his college career).

                In the 2025 draft class, however, I have absolutely no idea who the top quarterbacks are. Shedeur Sanders is the only one I can even think of as getting any Round 1 hype right now, and I'd guess that at best he's in the third tier of this current class.

                If Fields gets no better than what he is right now — and I might call this likely, as historically the number of NFL quarterbacks who raise their skill floor dramatically after 16 regular-season starts is exceptionally low — then he's not a playoff caliber quarterback, he's holding the roster back, and there's no help coming through the door in next year's draft class. Moreover, the rest of the Bears' roster is getting to the point where the team is too talented to bottom out. I would predict they won't pick Top 5 again for the next few years. The best opportunity to identify and acquire a franchise quarterback is literally right now.

                If the Bears are going to make the move to draft a quarterback, they must do it this spring. They can figure out whether to keep Fields later.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #38
                  What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                  Originally posted by Keirik
                  blah blah blah.
                  Like I already said, it would be in their best interest to just reset the clock altogether especially if you’re not sure if he can be the long term answer and based on the film, process and results I’m not sure how anyone can be confident that he is the answer.

                  You(?) brought up hiring a new OC and if that’s the case, this would be his 3rd in his 4th year, right?

                  We’ve all sat here and said/know that young QBs need stability early in their careers and the ones that end up with multiple coordinators/coaches early in their career rarely have much success, so how would this benefit him?

                  Because if you’re going to go that route, it makes sense to go either the new Qb route. Or you can also do what CM mentioned as well.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #39
                    Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                    Trade from 1 to 3-5 range and take Jayden Daniels. I'm convinced he's the best qb in this class. Pick up some extra picks and still get the guy

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                    • Keirik
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 3770

                      #40
                      Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                      Originally posted by CM Hooe
                      To add my opinion to things: I think the Bears must draft a QB in Round 1 this year with one of their two first-round picks.

                      There are arguably five quarterbacks in this draft with Round 1 grades: Caleb Williams and Drake Maye are both Top 5 locks, Jayden Daniels might be the consensus third-best guy, then Michael Penix and Bo Nix follow those three in some order (I see Penix dropping a bit mostly due to medical red flags, he's endured several season-ending injuries during his college career).

                      In the 2025 draft class, however, I have absolutely no idea who the top quarterbacks are. Shedeur Sanders is the only one I can even think of as getting any Round 1 hype right now, and I'd guess that at best he's in the third tier of this current class.

                      If Fields gets no better than what he is right now — and I might call this likely, as historically the number of NFL quarterbacks who raise their skill floor dramatically after 16 regular-season starts is exceptionally low — then he's not a playoff caliber quarterback, he's holding the roster back, and there's no help coming through the door in next year's draft class. Moreover, the rest of the Bears' roster is getting to the point where the team is too talented to bottom out. I would predict they won't pick Top 5 again for the next few years. The best opportunity to identify and acquire a franchise quarterback is literally right now.

                      If the Bears are going to make the move to draft a quarterback, they must do it this spring. They can figure out whether to keep Fields later.
                      I agree with most of this except that Fields is holding the team back, with a caveat. It's very difficult to judge that considering the play calling has been atrocious and they tore down a lot of the team before this year. Plus, he had no line and literally only one legit weapon starting this most recent year.

                      I'm not even sold on Fields at all, but if you bring another QB in with this same roster, you really aren't moving much of a needle and there really isn't any guarantee for a first overall QB. Since Eli Manning draft in 04, there are only 2 QBs to go 1st overall and win a Super Bowl. Eli and Stafford, annd the latter didn't even win with the team that drafted him. Now, I know that's not a long time and there are recent guys with still good careers ahead, but it's not a sure thing to actually win anything and plenty of lesser QBs have still won championships if surrounded with the right pieces.


                      It's a very tough decision, at least to me. But I appreciate the opinion.
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                      • reyes the roof
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11526

                        #41
                        Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                        I'm really torn on this. It would be nice for the Bears to have a QB in my lifetime that doesn't need a great O-line, perfect play calling and weapons all over the field to succeed but I hate the idea of having to use that #1 pick on a QB when Marvin Harrison Jr is right there. I'm not opposed to one more year of Fields but this seems like the best opportunity they'll have to upgrade the position. The perfect scenario would be trading down to 3 with New England if you can pry next year's one away from them. Their roster is about as bad as anyone's in the league so maybe the Bears can get the #1 pick for a third year in a row and put off drafting a new QB for another year

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                        • Keirik
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3770

                          #42
                          Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                          Originally posted by reyes the roof
                          I'm really torn on this. It would be nice for the Bears to have a QB in my lifetime that doesn't need a great O-line, perfect play calling and weapons all over the field to succeed but I hate the idea of having to use that #1 pick on a QB when Marvin Harrison Jr is right there. I'm not opposed to one more year of Fields but this seems like the best opportunity they'll have to upgrade the position. The perfect scenario would be trading down to 3 with New England if you can pry next year's one away from them. Their roster is about as bad as anyone's in the league so maybe the Bears can get the #1 pick for a third year in a row and put off drafting a new QB for another year
                          That's idea, but I'm torn on whether it would be better to do the trade with NEcor WSH. Who has a worse 24 year and all that.
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                          • SmashMan
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 9728

                            #43
                            Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                            I think a lot of it depends on what they do with Getsy. You absolutely can't run it back with both him and Fields. Wrong coordinator for Justin's skillset and Justin's the wrong QB for the offense Getsy seems to want to run. It's just a bad fit.

                            If they ditch Getsy I could see them bringing Fields back to try it with another OC but with Justin's contract coming up they'd have to have instant success to justify it (and at this point that seems so unlikely so why would you just not draft a QB now?). If they keep Getsy they would have to draft a QB who can be mobile and improvise but really is more of a pocket passer. I'll let you guys who watch more college fill me in on who that would be.

                            Then again, if yesterday showed us anything it's that while a new QB might help out in a lot of areas, the team isn't just a QB away so trading down might end up helping them out more than anything else.

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                            • adriano
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2808

                              #44
                              Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                              Getsy is fired and Eberfus is retained.

                              Pretty good article on why keeping Eberfus is a bad decision..

                              Last edited by adriano; 01-10-2024, 01:05 PM.

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                              • Keirik
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 3770

                                #45
                                Re: What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

                                Originally posted by adriano
                                Getsy is fired and Eberfus is retained.

                                Pretty good article on why keeping Eberfus is a bad decision..

                                https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-k...173109341.html
                                Yes and no. Either way, Gets wasn't the answer. It's less of an indication of QB and more of an indication that he just wasn't good at adapting whenever a game plan wasn't going well.
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