What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

[reyes the roof]

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I’ll miss Getsy and his bag of 4th and 1 trickery

[reyes the roof]

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Watching the playoffs has really swayed me in the direction of using the pick on a new QB. It’s depressing seeing all these teams with QBs that can process information and handle pressure so much better than Fields

[ggsimmonds]

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I think the Bears need to move on from Fields.

I playfully give Bears fans hell over how they viewed Nagy (the way they said it he was the source of all their ills and once he wasn't there to sabotage the team they would take off) and now Nagy is gone and fans are still making excuses for why Fields hasn't met expectations.

Fields is the common denominator. He either isn't the guy period, or its just not a good fit with Chicago for whatever reason. Bears should hope its the latter, or at least hope that other teams think it is the latter, and gauge his trade value.

The risk the Bears run is that if they decide to run it back one more time with Fields and the results are more of the same, he likely won't have trade value after that. There aren't that many late bloomers in the NFL. 90% of the time what you see in the 3rd year is what that player is. Expecting a jump from 3rd year to 4th just seems like wishful thinking

[Keirik]

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Looks like thr Bears are going with Shane Waldron for OC

https://abc7chicago.com/shane-waldron-bears-oc-hire-chicago-offensive-coordinator/14349264/

[SmashMan]

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Fields is the common denominator. He either isn't the guy period, or its just not a good fit with Chicago for whatever reason.

A little bit of both, probably. Looked alright with Nagy (some highs, some lows like most rookie QBs) but obviously that was only half a season or whatever it was. The Eberflus/Getsy offense was a total mismatch.

He looked good throwing to the only two guys on the team who can catch a pass (DJ and Kmet) though, so that's nice. Nice enough to keep building with? I have no idea.

[reyes the roof]

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Fields isn’t free of blame, but their biggest problem is they keep firing their coach the year after they draft a QB, then they end up with a coach that didn’t draft the QB and when he finally gets his own QB he gets fired a year later, rinse and repeat.

[Keirik]

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To me, the decision is complicated even moreso because of just how good Fields actually is with his feet when let loose. Yes, QB work definitely does need work and he is not free of blame, but he was 63 yards away from the NFL record of most yards rushed in a single season owned by Lamar Jackson. This isn't Mitchell Trubisky at all. Not even close. There is a dynamic two threat talent there that you just dont replicate so easily. If you add in the aspect of how bad of a team and coaches Fields has been surrounded by?

I feel a bit like the team is doing him dirty a little. Having said that, Caleb still probably is the lean.

[ggsimmonds]

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A little bit of both, probably. Looked alright with Nagy (some highs, some lows like most rookie QBs) but obviously that was only half a season or whatever it was. The Eberflus/Getsy offense was a total mismatch.

He looked good throwing to the only two guys on the team who can catch a pass (DJ and Kmet) though, so that's nice. Nice enough to keep building with? I have no idea.

You should probably know what you have after the 3rd year. If by then you still don't know what you have, then you probably don't have what you hope you do.

Its not an easy decision to make. I don't envy that front office one bit.

[SmashMan]

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You should probably know what you have after the 3rd year. If by then you still don't know what you have, then you probably don't have what you hope you do.

Its not an easy decision to make. I don't envy that front office one bit.

Yeah, I agree that typically a team should know by now; but man…they really haven’t put him in much of a position to succeed either. How much of his play is/was the situation vs him just having a lower ceiling than they hoped for? Glad I’m not the one who has to make that decision.

[IndianSummer]

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Fields has certainly been in a train wreck with the Bears……..whoever’s fault I have no clue. The Vikings might need him, Cousins is going to miss some of the season and I think this is the final year on his contract.
It wouldn’t be good to have your QB walk because the team didn’t play to his strength and then have him wear your arse out twice a year for numerous years.
Just throwing a random thought out there

[Hooe]

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The Vikings might need him, Cousins is going to miss some of the season and I think this is the final year on his contract.

Neither here nor there but Cousins’ contract with the Vikings automatically voids on March 13, at which point he will be an unrestricted free agent. He will cost the Vikings $28M against the 2024 salary cap regardless whether he is on the roster next season.

[Instant C1a55ic]

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I still don't understand why Denver hasn't called the Bears about him.

Send Jeudy to the Bears straight up for Fields. Bears can get Williams, and not have to draft a WR at 9.

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[Dagan]

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Here's my .02 cents on this year's QB's

Caleb Williams won't work out in Chicago. He works out in my mind, best, if he goes to Seattle. He needs a loaded roster of seasoned guys and a scheme that doesn't need him to be superman right away while he catches up to the speed of the NFL.

Jayden Daniels is similar to Lamar Jackson, and so the hope is that he doesn’t go to a similar situation because changing ones entire scheme to a scrambling QB just keeps not fully working out. It’s lightning in a bottle, yes, but it’s also constantly a small injury away from extreme liability and why you’d lose.

Drake Maye is just the bigger QB out of UNC manufacturing. Trubisky and Howell already show you what you’re getting. If your WR roster is loaded, Maye will look great, but that’s that.

JJ McCarthy isn’t going to last in the NFL for long. Not as a starter, anyway. He isn’t Mahomes. He isn’t Lamar. He definitely isn’t Brady. The kid honestly many times looks like he’s trying to be a little bit of the different greats, but at the same time, that indecision looks obvious, and such hesitation at the NFL level is going to get him hurt. He isn’t built to withstand the kinds of hits coming his way. At best, I think he becomes a Jared Goff type over time, and that’s if he commits to being a pocket QB only.

Michael Penix Jr. reminds me so much of Rodney Ware. The title game proved that, too. He reads the field pretty well, he’s certainly tough but he needs a solid, reliable run game in whatever scheme for him to excel in. It’s more often the case with a lot of guys needing this, but also so very often, organizations aren’t wise enough to do it.

Bo Nix feels like Carson Wentz again. Maybe he’s a bit fleet of foot faster, but for the most part, I just keep seeing Carson Wentz flashbacks. Serviceable and can be a good starter, but he’s going to have to prove he can function in an NFL system because he’s only worked out in spread option RPO styles so far. I know that NFL offenses have evolved to include such, but what a lot of folks keep ignoring is that, that scheme doesn’t last the entire year and win championships. In fact, the only time it has worked out that I recall is when Philadelphia won the super bowl, but it was because the guys they had as backups weren’t worn out and were of starting quality caliber to finish out the year. They were fresh and not season long beaten down like everyone else. It always comes down to the simplest pro style schemes that take the cake. So, yeah, this kid is Carson Wentz who needs to learn another scheme.

I do have a few chip on their shoulders, darkhorse QB’s to name, though. I tend to get these right pretty often, too. I hit on O’Connell and Bagent this past year. I’m pretty sure that I told some folks around here about it at the time. Anyway, my darkhorse guys in this draft are – Sam Hartman, Spencer Rattler, Jordan Travis. Those three guys are going to come into the league and have that “dawg” in them and play every snap they get like they have something to prove.

Again, just my 02. Cents.

[reyes the roof]

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I’m already preparing myself for the Bears to **** this up, my big fear is they pass on Caleb for non football reasons

[TripleCrown9]

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Swap with Washington for Jonathan Allen and a boatload of picks.

Chicago gets a defensive anchor and several opportunities to build around Fields.

Washington gets their QB, the hometown kid, that already has familiarity with their new offensive coordinator.

This is the most likely, realistic scenario that I've heard.