What Should the Bears Do With the 1st Overall?

[Keirik]

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I’m already preparing myself for the Bears to **** this up, my big fear is they pass on Caleb for non football reasons

He is making it tempting to do so, I'm not going to lie. Just a newer generation of college athlete but it makes me nervous with his cockiness, lack of wanting to participate in the combine, no agent, etc. the lack of allowing some access to him by some teams because "they aren't going to get to draft me anyway." Seems so crazy to me but maybe I'm old lol. There is a chance we trade the pick and who knows what team would give the best package, but I don't like a 22 year old dictating who has the opportunity to have access to him.

Ideally this should be a total football decision but some of Caleb's comments reslly do worry me when he walks into an NFL locker room.

[KG]

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He is making it tempting to do so, I'm not going to lie. Just a newer generation of college athlete but it makes me nervous with his cockiness, lack of wanting to participate in the combine, no agent, etc. the lack of allowing some access to him by some teams because "they aren't going to get to draft me anyway." Seems so crazy to me but maybe I'm old lol. There is a chance we trade the pick and who knows what team would give the best package, but I don't like a 22 year old dictating who has the opportunity to have access to him.

Ideally this should be a total football decision but some of Caleb's comments reslly do worry me when he walks into an NFL locker room.

I think that logic ..”not all teams can or would trade up to draft me so why give them all access to me”. He’s consented to the teams he realistically knows have a shot at him.

I’m pretty meh on all things combine related though. Give me tape>>>


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[reyes the roof]

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He is making it tempting to do so, I'm not going to lie. Just a newer generation of college athlete but it makes me nervous with his cockiness, lack of wanting to participate in the combine, no agent, etc. the lack of allowing some access to him by some teams because "they aren't going to get to draft me anyway." Seems so crazy to me but maybe I'm old lol. There is a chance we trade the pick and who knows what team would give the best package, but I don't like a 22 year old dictating who has the opportunity to have access to him.

Ideally this should be a total football decision but some of Caleb's comments reslly do worry me when he walks into an NFL locker room.

I like that he’s using his leverage to push the envelope. I think the combine is more or less a waste of time for established guys and with rookie salaries slotted he doesn’t really need an agent. If you’re good enough to call your own shots then do it.

[Keirik]

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I'm not even sure if there's a landing spot anymore for Fields. Atlanta is out. Pitt is out. Maybe NYG? 5th rounder?

[reyes the roof]

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I'm not even sure if there's a landing spot anymore for Fields. Atlanta is out. Pitt is out. Maybe NYG? 5th rounder?

At this point might as well just keep him. Odds are Caleb misses games at some point behind their sorry *** O-line

[Keirik]

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At this point might as well just keep him. Odds are Caleb misses games at some point behind their sorry *** O-line

Who peed in your cornflakes today?

Come on, we have such a rich history of QB success. Have faith! lol

[slickdtc]

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Yeah, it seems Fields may be more valuable to Chicago than whatever compensation they can get for him. That said, it also has to do with making sure the rookie QB they draft is not looking over his shoulder. I’d let that ride though. QB’s get hurt and having a good backup is crucial. Fields may not be a long term QB in this league but he’s still young and exciting with enough potential to be excited if he got thrust back in to starting for a few games. Get that stock back up in time for next offseason.

Not sure on the contract details, but it just seems Chicago would be best hanging on to Fields. We’ll see how the draft goes though. And injuries.

[KG]

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Yeah, it seems Fields may be more valuable to Chicago than whatever compensation they can get for him. That said, it also has to do with making sure the rookie QB they draft is not looking over his shoulder. I’d let that ride though. QB’s get hurt and having a good backup is crucial. Fields may not be a long term QB in this league but he’s still young and exciting with enough potential to be excited if he got thrust back in to starting for a few games. Get that stock back up in time for next offseason.

Not sure on the contract details, but it just seems Chicago would be best hanging on to Fields. We’ll see how the draft goes though. And injuries.

I think having both of them on the roster does more to hurt both than help. I get it, there were a lot of things thrown at Fields that worked to his detriment (play calling, o-line, etc…) but he proved he couldn’t overcome them so why not move on and just get a guy who might be able to overcome those things.

I think the Bears have to just live with a late round pick for their return.


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[Keirik]

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I think having both of them on the roster does more to hurt both than help. I get it, there were a lot of things thrown at Fields that worked to his detriment (play calling, o-line, etc…) but he proved he couldn’t overcome them so why not move on and just get a guy who might be able to overcome those things.

I think the Bears have to just live with a late round pick for their return.


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I can agree with that. I'm not sure exactly why the Bears waited for free agency to start since this was always a possibility unless they seriously aren't sure about what to do. No way i want both on the team, especially in a locker room that so strongly backed Fields. I just see way too much confusion there. If you are drafting Wiliams, trade Fields at draft day I guess and hope there still is a veteran QB out there looking for a backup role. I'd even be open to a Flacco. A good veteran presence.

[fugazi]

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Trade the first pick for a haul...

Bears are not a QB away from anything.

This still feels like the right thing.

[KG]

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I can agree with that. I'm not sure exactly why the Bears waited for free agency to start since this was always a possibility unless they seriously aren't sure about what to do. No way i want both on the team, especially in a locker room that so strongly backed Fields. I just see way too much confusion there. If you are drafting Wiliams, trade Fields at draft day I guess and hope there still is a veteran QB out there looking for a backup role. I'd even be open to a Flacco. A good veteran presence.

Yeah I heard Rappaport say today that the Bears want to wait until after Caleb’s pro day to make a decision.

That blows my mind UNLESS there’s concerns about this medical which I haven’t seen any injury concerns circulating. By waiting until after free agency starts the Bears are basically killing Fields’ trade value. Just off the top of my head and without knowing how serious any of those teams are you have to cross off Pittsburgh, Atlanta, maybe Minnesota with Darnold (assuming they draft a QB), Tampa w/ Baker resigning, etc…

I just can’t imagine any teams would wait until after Free Agency started and then the draft comes around to make a decision on your most important position.


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[Keirik]

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Backup known.

Brett Rypien. Bleh. Really wanted a real experienced guy that's led a team.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/bears-sign-quarterback-brett-rypien-201912019.html

[ggsimmonds]

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Yeah I heard Rappaport say today that the Bears want to wait until after Caleb’s pro day to make a decision.

That blows my mind UNLESS there’s concerns about this medical which I haven’t seen any injury concerns circulating. By waiting until after free agency starts the Bears are basically killing Fields’ trade value. Just off the top of my head and without knowing how serious any of those teams are you have to cross off Pittsburgh, Atlanta, maybe Minnesota with Darnold (assuming they draft a QB), Tampa w/ Baker resigning, etc…

I just can’t imagine any teams would wait until after Free Agency started and then the draft comes around to make a decision on your most important position.


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I might disagree; I'm not sure.

What determines trade value? Its basically supply and demand right?
Well after free agency the supply is going to nosedive.

I can see the argument that if the Bears entered trade negotiations early, other teams can low ball them because there are other QBs available on the market. After FA Fields may be the only game in town.

Waiting until after FA certainly shrinks your pool of potential trade partners, but it could also increase the Bears leverage with the remaining teams.

Waiting is definitely the more riskier move, but it could result in higher return. Not really sure, just thinking out loud

[Keirik]

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I might disagree; I'm not sure.

What determines trade value? Its basically supply and demand right?
Well after free agency the supply is going to nosedive.

I can see the argument that if the Bears entered trade negotiations early, other teams can low ball them because there are other QBs available on the market. After FA Fields may be the only game in town.

Waiting until after FA certainly shrinks your pool of potential trade partners, but it could also increase the Bears leverage with the remaining teams.

Waiting is definitely the more riskier move, but it could result in higher return. Not really sure, just thinking out loud

The problem is that this is a "very deep" Qb draft pool from what experts are saying. Why trade for a Fields if you have a top 15 pick when you can just as easily maybe draft a Bo Nix or someone like that if he's on the board halfway through the draft.

[ggsimmonds]

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The problem is that this is a "very deep" Qb draft pool from what experts are saying. Why trade for a Fields if you have a top 15 pick when you can just as easily maybe draft a Bo Nix or someone like that if he's on the board halfway through the draft.

That applies regardless of when the Bears try to trade Fields.

This is why the Bears are in an unenviable position. No one knows what the "right" move is.