Washington Redskins Official Thread

[N51_rob]

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You may be right about him in Denver, but I think a lot of his early success in Denver may be attributed to having Brandon Marshall in 2007 and having Marshall and Eddie Royal in 2008. Marshall is better than anything he has had in Chicago on the outside.

IDK, but I still stand by the thought that the Redskins taking a project or developmental QB in rounds 1 or 2 is a recipe for disaster. My honest feeling is that if they can't get Luck or Barkley in round 1 get Blackmon (if available) and continue to rebuild the offensive line.

I (and I may be in the minority) think that Rex is more than serviceable if he can have a clean pocket to work with. He is still gonna turn the ball over in questionable fashion, but if they can get another target on the outside and improve the Oline, then maybe they can resurrect the running game enough to protect Rex from himself. That said, there is no way they go into 2012 with both Beck and Rex as the only QB's on the roster. All speculation but the areas of need are pretty clear going forward.

Franchise QB
Playmaking WR
Right Side OL starters
CB (Who can cover and tackle)
Depth along both Lines
London Fletcher's replacement (if it isn't Perry Reiley)

Did I miss anything?

[Aggies7]

You may be right about him in Denver, but I think a lot of his early success in Denver may be attributed to having Brandon Marshall in 2007 and having Marshall and Eddie Royal in 2008. Marshall is better than anything he has had in Chicago on the outside.

IDK, but I still stand by the thought that the Redskins taking a project or developmental QB in rounds 1 or 2 is a recipe for disaster. My honest feeling is that if they can't get Luck or Barkley in round 1 get Blackmon (if available) and continue to rebuild the offensive line.

I (and I may be in the minority) think that Rex is more than serviceable if he can have a clean pocket to work with. He is still gonna turn the ball over in questionable fashion, but if they can get another target on the outside and improve the Oline, then maybe they can resurrect the running game enough to protect Rex from himself. That said, there is no way they go into 2012 with both Beck and Rex as the only QB's on the roster. All speculation but the areas of need are pretty clear going forward.

Franchise QB
Playmaking WR
Right Side OL starters
CB (Who can cover and tackle)
Depth along both Lines
London Fletcher's replacement (if it isn't Perry Reiley)

Did I miss anything?

New Owner maybe.

But on serious note I believe the QB had to be a priority over WR when the draft rolls around.

[N51_rob]

New Owner maybe.

But on serious note I believe the QB had to be a priority over WR when the draft rolls around.

I agree with QB but it has to be the right QB. Especially if they are gonna reach for one or trade out of a high pick. I kept hoping that they were gonna take Daulton last year. I think they got two really good defensive guys, but for me personally after Cam I thought Daulton was the next best QB in the draft. Said as much last year.

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[N51_rob]

Skins release Choice, bring Evan Royster up from the PS.

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[Checmate101]

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Skins release Choice, bring Evan Royster up from the PS.

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Yeah, about time they bought Royster up...Think they should cut Torain also, don't see w hy he's still the starting RB, everybody knows Helu should be starting right now..I think we signed Choice just to get info on Dallas offense I believe..I really thought he was going to do something here, but then again we don't run the ball enough, and the person who gets the most carries is a guy that can't run anymore in Torain.

I do think a combo of Helu and Royster could be something special here whenever we get that line together

[Checmate101]

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You may be right about him in Denver, but I think a lot of his early success in Denver may be attributed to having Brandon Marshall in 2007 and having Marshall and Eddie Royal in 2008. Marshall is better than anything he has had in Chicago on the outside.

IDK, but I still stand by the thought that the Redskins taking a project or developmental QB in rounds 1 or 2 is a recipe for disaster. My honest feeling is that if they can't get Luck or Barkley in round 1 get Blackmon (if available) and continue to rebuild the offensive line.

I (and I may be in the minority) think that Rex is more than serviceable if he can have a clean pocket to work with. He is still gonna turn the ball over in questionable fashion, but if they can get another target on the outside and improve the Oline, then maybe they can resurrect the running game enough to protect Rex from himself. That said, there is no way they go into 2012 with both Beck and Rex as the only QB's on the roster. All speculation but the areas of need are pretty clear going forward.

Franchise QB
Playmaking WR
Right Side OL starters
CB (Who can cover and tackle)
Depth along both Lines
London Fletcher's replacement (if it isn't Perry Reiley)

Did I miss anything?

Yes you're right on everything...but, I think we have a playmaker WR in Hankerson for next year and another one that's on the PS in Aldrick Robinson. Dude didn't get a chance this preseason but, I see big plays in him just from what I saw in him..Shanny gave up on him once he fumbled the punt return in preseason and never put him back on the field...

and on QB's...IF I can't get Luck who I think is overrated a little bit, I've only seen a couple of his games and I wasn't really impressed, but to each his own I guess..I really wouldn't mind having RG3 to be honest with you..Way things looking we're not going to win anymore, so we'll end up with a top 5 pick if not a top 3 pick...shooooooot if not the 2nd pick..but if Luck/Barkley not there go RG3 or Blackmon and get your Q in the 2nd round

[ProfessaPackMan]

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RIP Sean Taylor.

Been 4 years today since he passed away. Still remember that day like it was yesterday...

[N51_rob]

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That win was costly. We went from 7th to 14th in the draft if it were to start today. No Blackmon, No 1st round QB at that spot.

[colkilla]

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yep, stupid victory. anyway, if you can get an offensive playmaker like blackmon or a.jeffrey from s.carolina in round 1 do it. other qb's (i think russell wilson from wisconsin is a good fit for this offense) will be available later...

[wwharton]

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yep, stupid victory. anyway, if you can get an offensive playmaker like blackmon or a.jeffrey from s.carolina in round 1 do it. other qb's (i think russell wilson from wisconsin is a good fit for this offense) will be available later...

You guys started getting me drinking the kool aid (and Blackmon looks incredible) but then my head went back to the issues the Skins have had for YEARS. Talent and depth on both the offensive and defensive lines. I'm back to thinking it'd be a mistake not to try to address one of those issues in the 1st round. They've got a capable group of WRs (and TEs) and just drafted one expected to be a big playmaker last year.

[N51_rob]

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The lines are an issue for sure, but they I don't think they can afford to not take a QB (if their guy is gone then I would be more open to a OL or WR.) Hankerson looked good for two weeks, but it took him a while to get to that point and Moss is really a slot receiver who is the skins #1 WR. Gafney has looked good, but it would appear that Austin has regressed, Stallworth won't be back, Banks is a return guy and Armstrong has disapeared. (nice catch against seattle though.)

Bottom line as long as they get a QB, and address some of the other offensive holes I will be happy.

But if Barkley stays at USC then I say, we get Blackmon and and an Oline let Rex do what he does for another year and hope to get Barkley next year. There are a lot of QBs coming out, but only a couple that I like the redskins taking in the first round.

Honestly the Skins need help everywhere except LB, so there really isn't a back pick out there for them.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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D-Line shouldn't be too bad next year with Jenkins coming back. I remember the Coaches saying if he didn't get hurt, he would've been starting on Opening Day.

Bowen, Jenkins, Carracter, Neild, Cofield...that's nice rotation right there, especially with Orakpo and Kerrigan rushing the QB.

O-Line, QB should be the Top 2 priorities in the Draft)and also look at some CBs as well.

[wwharton]

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The lines are an issue for sure, but they I don't think they can afford to not take a QB (if their guy is gone then I would be more open to a OL or WR.) Hankerson looked good for two weeks, but it took him a while to get to that point and Moss is really a slot receiver who is the skins #1 WR. Gafney has looked good, but it would appear that Austin has regressed, Stallworth won't be back, Banks is a return guy and Armstrong has disapeared. (nice catch against seattle though.)

Bottom line as long as they get a QB, and address some of the other offensive holes I will be happy.

But if Barkley stays at USC then I say, we get Blackmon and and an Oline let Rex do what he does for another year and hope to get Barkley next year. There are a lot of QBs coming out, but only a couple that I like the redskins taking in the first round.

Honestly the Skins need help everywhere except LB, so there really isn't a back pick out there for them.

Rookie WRs generally have a 3 year learning curve so Hankerson's production in 2 weeks is above the curve. Armstrong hasn't really been given a chance until last week. He reminds me of Cruz. They need to throw him out there more before writing him off... can't speak on Austin. Stallworth can be back if he needs to be and Gaffney is fine. This team shouldn't be trying to recreate the Packers WR corp at this point. They have plenty considering their other needs. And as we've seen for years, those receivers mean nothing without a solid Oline, let alone Oline and QB.

I do love Blackmon but he'd be a bad pick for the Skins.

Good point on Jenkins, Pack.

[N51_rob]

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I agree that there are other issues on the team. That is clear. But looking at the roster there isn't one position that isn't a need outside of LB IMO. Perry Riely has looked good now that he has been given a chance to play. I want to continue to watch him the rest of the way.

While there are more pressing needs at Oline and obviously at QB. I think that despite all the BS, Allen and Shanny have at the very least shown they can draft well. This past draft netted some good looking youngsters (Helu, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Gomes and even Neild have contributed). So I trust them going forward. That said this seems like a year where they need to trust their board in the early rounds.

I also agree that they don't need to be Packer like with the WR corps, but I just don't see how if their QB is off the board and Blackmon is there they don't take him. Unless they get a tremendous offer (which I would be a fan of trading down) or they really have an offensive linemen rated ahead of him. Which knowledgeable fans would understand but the masses wouldn't (which is part of the fan bases problem, they don't know dick about football.). In a perfect world the skins would get their franchise QB, a linemen to protect him and another weapon that would be a really good round 1-3 in my eyes.

Also, what is Cooley's trade value? Not saying that they will trade him, but the last two years Fred Davis has been the better TE. Clearly Baby Shanny didn't or couldn't really devise a way to get them both in the passing game, a la New England so why keep two guys when one will do, especially since they are gonna have to pay Fred Davis to keep him.

Edit: I've attached Scouts incs top 32 prospects going into the weekend.

[wwharton]

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We agree for the most part. I'm not a fan of reaching in the draft (the Ravens success in drafts have shaped my feeling on that). But if the draft board plays out about the way it's listed there, I don't see a reason why they wouldn't take an OT over Blackmon if they have the chance at doing one or the other.

And that's keeping in mind that we're not even talking about whether they should take L. Jones or Barkley instead of either... I'm still undecided on that, but that's a different discussion.