Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

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  • golfnut67
    Pro
    • Oct 2021
    • 860

    #91
    Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

    Originally posted by scagwi
    Oh I agree with you 100%

    A delay here is really odd and I assume (hope) has a really good reason.

    Getting closer and closer to EA's release window, or worse yet overlapping with it, is not in 2k's favor. It's not even about relative product offering or quality, it's just about getting to market first if you can, especially before the holidays and gift giving/buying season, etc
    Exactly right. And unless EA really falls short with game play, how can 2k really compete for new buyers of a golf game when EA has all the majors, and playable pros?

    2k simply has to get this out before Christmas to have any chance at 1m in sales. Even that is probably a stretch because unless they really shock us with some major upgrades and improvements, most 2k players will probably take a wait and see approach and wait for EA. I won't, I'll buy both immediately, but most people probably won't do that.

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    • golfnut67
      Pro
      • Oct 2021
      • 860

      #92
      Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

      Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
      Think about EA College football, wayyy bigger than these games and no leaks or anything outside of information request from Matt Brown.


      Sent from my iPad Pro
      Ya that's just mind blowing. Just seems like there would be some low level dork working on these games that is somewhat in the know about what's going on that just couldn't resist the temptation to even anonymously post info or rumors on sites like these.

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      • VoltSwoosh
        Banned
        • Jun 2021
        • 1090

        #93
        Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

        Originally posted by golfnut67
        Exactly right. And unless EA really falls short with game play, how can 2k really compete for new buyers of a golf game when EA has all the majors, and playable pros?



        2k simply has to get this out before Christmas to have any chance at 1m in sales. Even that is probably a stretch because unless they really shock us with some major upgrades and improvements, most 2k players will probably take a wait and see approach and wait for EA. I won't, I'll buy both immediately, but most people probably won't do that.


        Preach it.


        Sent from my iPad Pro

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        • bigkev
          Pro
          • Apr 2019
          • 911

          #94
          Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

          Originally posted by scagwi
          I think both games are going to do reasonably well, but I think they'll be largely splitting up marketshare pie ... not growing some larger pie.

          Golf has limits in terms of larger mainstream market appeal here folks

          That's the way I see it too... some will buy both games, arcade players will buy EA and sim will end up buying 2K. EA will probably make their game very user friendly again, we will be stripping it down the middle in no time, even at expert mode. But the graphics should be very good.

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          • bigkev
            Pro
            • Apr 2019
            • 911

            #95
            Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

            Originally posted by golfnut67
            That was kind of my point, even if it's just an evolutionary upgrade, which it probably will be, why in the world wouldn't they release whatever it is well before EA? It's their only chance to even approach 1m copies in my estimation. It just makes no sense at all to me to wait until early 23 to release it.

            Because the game is not ready... whatever that means in their case.

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            • scagwi
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 2718

              #96
              Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

              Originally posted by bigkev
              ..arcade players will buy EA and sim will end up buying 2K.
              No clue why you are positioning one brand as "arcade" and one as "sim"

              Both HB and EA golf games can be every bit as hard as you want them to be, via the same general methods of adjusting the assists and particular swing factors

              I've noticed that "sim" players seem to think turning off assists and aids makes things more "realistic", especially on the green (no grid/beads/heat map, etc)

              You've been able to do that in basically every serious golf game for the last 2 decades.
              Last edited by scagwi; 08-02-2022, 03:32 PM.

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              • C.J.S.
                graphic artist
                • Oct 2010
                • 512

                #97
                Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                what about the engine? any news on a new game engine that's not outdated by 10 years. if not, then no go for me.

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                • bigkev
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 911

                  #98
                  Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                  Originally posted by golfnut67
                  It's also amazing to me in this day and age that devs and companies can keep an absolute air tight lid on leaks. There hasn't been word one from either company, no rumors, nothing. I don't see how that's possible these days.

                  They're getting better and better at this, letting the other companies guessing. 2K pretty much know what the EA game is going to look like, almost all the content has been released publicly.

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                  • scagwi
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 2718

                    #99
                    Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                    Originally posted by bigkev
                    They're getting better and better at this, letting the other companies guessing. 2K pretty much know what the EA game is going to look like, almost all the content has been released publicly.
                    Except for...you know...what it's actually going to "look like"

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                    • VoltSwoosh
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 1090

                      #100
                      Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                      Originally posted by bigkev
                      They're getting better and better at this, letting the other companies guessing. 2K pretty much know what the EA game is going to look like, almost all the content has been released publicly.


                      I believe EA has MUCH more info coming.


                      Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro Max

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                      • bigkev
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 911

                        #101
                        Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                        Originally posted by scagwi
                        Except for...you know...what it's actually going to "look like"


                        It's Frosbite... expect close to the best graphics Frosbite can provide. Whatever that means for most of us.

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                        • scagwi
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 2718

                          #102
                          Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                          Originally posted by bigkev
                          It's Frosbite... expect close to the best graphics Frosbite can provide. Whatever that means for most of us.
                          So .. in other words .. we don't really actually know what it will look like.

                          Nor do we know if they are done adding content.

                          How on Earth are you taking the position that the EA game is essentially a known quantity?

                          We have no clue what the all new swing is like...how the shot link data will be used, what pros are in or out, the extent of the course list, how great the graphics may in fact be..

                          Like -- we know almost nothing actually.

                          We've seen not a single image (let alone video) of this game and EA haven't released a golf game in 7 years.

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                          • lowpaiddonkey10
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 2163

                            #103
                            Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                            Maybe not all the reason for the delays but LIV through a monkey wrench into the proceedings. 2k? No new engine they would have made a big deal of this already. With k2 you never know the pr dept is non existent.

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                            • bigkev
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 911

                              #104
                              Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                              Originally posted by VoltSwoosh
                              I believe EA has MUCH more info coming.

                              Sure there is, but the most important is already all there. Frosbite engine/graphics. Augusta and the 4 Majors, the list of almost all the courses... new swing mechanic.

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                              • bigkev
                                Pro
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 911

                                #105
                                Re: Luke Elvy appears to confirm PGA2k23 coming in August in radio interview

                                Originally posted by scagwi
                                So .. in other words .. we don't really actually know what it will look like.

                                Nor do we know if they are done adding content.

                                How on Earth are you taking the position that the EA game is essentially a known quantity?

                                We have no clue what the all new swing is like...how the shot link data will be used, what pros are in or out, the extent of the course list, how great the graphics may in fact be..

                                Like -- we know almost nothing actually.

                                We've seen not a single image (let alone video) of this game and EA haven't released a golf game in 7 years.

                                You're looking at it as a golf nerd... where every tiny little details is important to you. You're only the small percentage of who the 2 companies are selling the game.

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