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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #31
    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

    Originally posted by scagwi
    We can here, yes
    But they know what they're doing by being cagey and fast and loose on things that won't show well..

    It's all about getting mega preorders and the most juice right out of the gate
    Fair, but I assumed for the sake of the conversation we were pretty much just talking about the fanbase here.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52807

      #32
      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

      There is still roughly 6 weeks until launch day. A lot of time for them to talk about the things not talked about/addressed in this Q/A session.

      I’m sure they have a schedule for when they want to release information in order to keep intrigue and buzz around the release of their new game. Perhaps they should make that schedule public like other devs do (SDS)




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      • lowpaiddonkey10
        MVP
        • Oct 2017
        • 2163

        #33
        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

        Originally posted by scagwi
        We can here, yes
        But they know what they're doing by being cagey and fast and loose on things that won't show well..

        It's all about getting mega preorders and the most juice right out of the gate

        I'm sure many do it - doesn't mean I should like it though.

        And the developers not knowing about the scoreboard thing?
        I'm sorry - but we'd have to believe they are pretty dumb and uninformed to believe that to be true.

        They are neither
        They know about the scoreboard thing and have no way to fix it or it would have been fixed already. I think the graphics are OK and they are between a rock and a hard place because if they move off Unity the course creator and all the courses created would be affected. Hopefully I am wrong but we'll see soon enough.

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        • MrArlingtonBeach
          MVP
          • Feb 2009
          • 4530

          #34
          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

          Originally posted by lowpaiddonkey10
          They know about the scoreboard thing and have no way to fix it or it would have been fixed already. I think the graphics are OK and they are between a rock and a hard place because if they move off Unity the course creator and all the courses created would be affected. Hopefully I am wrong but we'll see soon enough.
          If true, I honestly wish they would have just said that, instead of the whole "not understanding it" thing. Instead, how they responded comes off as though they are being purposefully evasive about it, or I guess that they really don't know - and if that second part is true, that would mean there's some odd stuff going on between 2K Support and the devs in terms of sharing info. I mean, there are other possibilities of why the devs Chase talked to didn't understand or know of the issue, but everything around this career mode scoreboard issue comes off weird and uncomfortable.

          As for the graphics part...each reaction video I saw that was done by someone who uses the designer had a comment in there about the fact that some trees are "re-done" in 2K23, and they have concerns that courses that get ported over from 2K21 will look off due to this, as some trees will not look the same in the new game.

          Perhaps this is just a small way they are setting everyone up to know that graphical changes need to be made, so get ready to not have your courses work/look the same from one game to the next?

          Just some conjecture on my part...
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          • ODogg
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #35
            Well that's just wonderful. That answer of no couch co-op using created career golfers, combined with the graphics that look the same means at best now I will be (maybe) buying the standard version. Mostly because my wife will expect it as she loves to play the 2K game.

            But I will go all in on supporting the competition. I'll bet EA's game will have vastly better graphics and allow us to play against one another using our created golfers, although I suppose at least the latter could be me getting a bit ahead of myself.

            Just really, really, really disappointing, especially since they say they know about this and it has been this way since this was just The Golf Club years and years ago.

            They act as if they really care about the community, and maybe my wife and I are one of the few who play together, but honestly this was one of the most disappointing interviews I have read on OS in a long, long time. WOW.
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            • VoltSwoosh
              Banned
              • Jun 2021
              • 1090

              #36
              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

              Originally posted by ODogg
              Well that's just wonderful. That answer of no couch co-op using created career golfers, combined with the graphics that look the same means at best now I will be (maybe) buying the standard version. Mostly because my wife will expect it as she loves to play the 2K game.

              But I will go all in on supporting the competition. I'll bet EA's game will have vastly better graphics and allow us to play against one another using our created golfers, although I suppose at least the latter could be me getting a bit ahead of myself.

              Just really, really, really disappointing, especially since they say they know about this and it has been this way since this was just The Golf Club years and years ago.

              They act as if they really care about the community, and maybe my wife and I are one of the few who play together, but honestly this was one of the most disappointing interviews I have read on OS in a long, long time. WOW.


              EA will DEFINITELY let you play as say your custom golfer against your wife’s custom golfer for example, been a part of that series for YEARS.

              Also yes, graphics are going to be insane on that game.


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              • TheBrew101
                Rookie
                • Mar 2003
                • 309

                #37
                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                Did CrazyCanuck (or whoever did that video about his time with game) say Tiger Woods was not motion captured? He did say Colin Morikawa was and said swings looked good. Seems odd they wouldn't motion capture Tiger!

                I don't play as the pros anyway so not a huge deal for me one way or other but that just really surprised me.

                My general takeaway from all the info is the game will be good (but maybe not revolutionary....just a solid game of golf). It sounds like it is similar to 2K21 gameplay with added elements (3 click option,
                archetypes, skills, leveling players, a few new courses, slightly better graphics, playable pros).

                The big questions for me are still the leaderboard glitch and if courses really can be changed out in career mode (Seems conflicting info here).

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                • MrArlingtonBeach
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4530

                  #38
                  Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                  Originally posted by TheBrew101
                  Did CrazyCanuck (or whoever did that video about his time with game) say Tiger Woods was not motion captured? He did say Colin Morikawa was and said swings looked good. Seems odd they wouldn't motion capture Tiger!

                  I don't play as the pros anyway so not a huge deal for me one way or other but that just really surprised me.

                  My general takeaway from all the info is the game will be good (but maybe not revolutionary....just a solid game of golf). It sounds like it is similar to 2K21 gameplay with added elements (3 click option,
                  archetypes, skills, leveling players, a few new courses, slightly better graphics, playable pros).

                  The big questions for me are still the leaderboard glitch and if courses really can be changed out in career mode (Seems conflicting info here).
                  Yes, he said some pros, like Morikawa, were mo-capped, but not all. And Tiger was one he specifically said was not mo-capped. I wonder if it had to do with his injury and such. But yeah, it does seem odd that TW, the big selling point of 2K23, would not have his swing captured and used in the game.
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                  • JoeRodgers1175
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2020
                    • 268

                    #39
                    Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                    Thank you Chase for saving me $60. No fix to the scoreboard glitch, no money from me.

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                    • Zinger
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 254

                      #40
                      Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                      I don't know anything about programming but I’d have thought it pretty easy to fix the scoreboard glitch. Seems daft to go on about 'leaderboards' in the trailers and then not fix it. We don't really know yet. I agree with those who have said that they would like a lot more stats in career mode but I think the chances of it happening are very low to nil. Reliable ones anyway.

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                      • scagwi
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 2718

                        #41
                        Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                        The scoreboard thing must be some low level code issue that they simply aren’t able to address without more major changes.

                        No part of me believes they “don’t know about it”

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                        • jbd345
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2437

                          #42
                          Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                          Originally posted by scagwi
                          The scoreboard thing must be some low level code issue that they simply aren’t able to address without more major changes.

                          No part of me believes they “don’t know about it”
                          Something tells me they completely abandoned their forums. It’s been discussed at length here. Can’t imagine how it was on there own.

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                          • VoltSwoosh
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2021
                            • 1090

                            #43
                            Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                            “Seems daft to go on about 'leaderboards' in the trailers and then not fix it. “ ]



                            I wouldn’t look too much into that, that’s just 2Ks marketing machine in action.

                            I really hope they’ve figured it out.



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                            • MrArlingtonBeach
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4530

                              #44
                              Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                              The 2K Forums are one of the saddest places online for golf video game talk...maybe the only competition for that title is the HB Forums.

                              The devs are not on either of those (although I do think some of the devs do poke their heads in the HB forums still - strangely enough), and the 2K forums are so overpoliced that saying anything is bound to get you placed in timeout. I mean, you couldn't post any link not from an "official" source when it came to news about 2K21. I think I spent a day there two years ago, got dinged and "moderated" multiple times when sharing 2K21 news from different sites, and peace'd out.

                              Let's just say that I have zero confidence that the leaderboard glitch has been fixed now, since it's kind of unrealistic to say they don't know about it. I literally have emails from 2K Support letting me know that they passed the leaderboard glitch on to the devs, and they were "working on it"...

                              I agree with those that said it's probably a code thing where they can't fix it without breaking lots of other things. And since the glitch doesn't happen to everyone or happen all the time (or it does happen, and some people just don't notice it), they're OK with just leaving it and hoping talk of it all goes away.

                              Really, really bummed out about that answer in the Q&A.
                              Last edited by MrArlingtonBeach; 08-25-2022, 11:03 AM.
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                              • VoltSwoosh
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2021
                                • 1090

                                #45
                                Re: PGA Tour 2K23 - Answering OS Community Questions

                                Originally posted by MrArlingtonBeach
                                The 2K Forums are one of the saddest places online for golf video game talk...maybe the only competition for that title is the HB Forums.

                                The devs are not on either of those, and the 2K forums are so overpoliced that saying anything is bound to get you placed in timeout. I mean, you couldn't post any link not from an "official" source when it came to news about 2K21. I think I spent a day there two years ago, got dinged and "moderated" multiple times when sharing 2K21 news from different sites, and peace'd out.

                                Let's just say that I have zero confidence that the leaderboard glitch has been fixed now, since it's kind of unrealistic to say they don't know about it. I literally have emails from 2K Support letting me know that they passed the leaderboard glitch on to the devs, and they were "working on it"...

                                I agree with those that said it's probably a code thing where they can't fix it without breaking lots of other things. And since the glitch doesn't happen to everyone or happen all the time (or it does happen, and some people just don't notice it), they're OK with just leaving it and hoping talk of it all goes away.

                                Really, really bummed out about that answer in the Q&A.


                                To put things on a brighter side, if it’s anything like 2K21, it won’t matter because TW is going to win 9 out of every 10 tournaments anyways. [emoji23]


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