Buy, Wait or Avoid? EA Sports PGA Tour

[vols]

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Would you mind sharing your PC's specs here? I upgraded my PC from an i5-4440 to an i7-4770, to go along with my GTX 1070 8GB/16 GB PC-1600 DDR3 RAM,Windows 10 64 bit system. I find the game unplayable at the res I *thought* I'd be able to play it at and that is 1080p. I have to cut the res back to 720p to get close to 60 FPS, and have to cut textures and detail back to medium, or less, to achieve that.

I can maintain 30 FPS at 1080p most of the time, but the game's already throttled swing speed feels even more sluggish at 30 FPS. It's weird, my XBox Series X does a better job of sustaining 30 FPS at 4K, than my supposedly equally, if not more richly appointed gaming PC does at 1080p, with medium or less texture and object details.

I would love to see what this game would look and play like in 4K @ 60 FPS, or higher, but I hate to think about how much I would have to invest in a gaming PC that would make it possible!? From what I'm hearing though, even such a machine is not going to get rid of the animation delay lag at the start of the backswing, nor remove the seemingly overly governed swing animation speed.

How well does your rig run Augusta? I have a 4790K. Wondering if I should get it.

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How well does your rig run Augusta? I have a 4790K. Wondering if I should get it.

It struggles mightily with it. I have to run it at 720p with most of the details turned back to medium or less, and 3D grass off to have it at 60 FPS, most of the time. If I up the res to 1080p, it's between 48 and 53 FPS, which gets messy with screen tearing and judder. At 1080p, I can dial the quality settings up a bit, turn 3D grass back on, and set the frame rate to 30 FPS and the vsync locked at 30 Hz. It looks considerably better than what I have at 720p and the settings it needs to maintain 60 FPS, but I get more of that "swinging the club underwater" feel with the frame rate locked at 30 FPS.

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Trust me, I have a 4090 and the game still plays poorly compared to other AAA titles. It makes no sense that this golf game performs so poorly. I'm not saying its not playable, just the constant frame hitching and laggy swing and menus are unacceptable.

I can't imagine you having problems running the game with a 4090 under the hood! Are you able to run it at 60 FPS at 2160p, consistently? I can see where the hitching comes from... I see it on my system at 720p. I think there's *some* degree of laggyness in the swing attributable to 30 FPS, but I think the majority of it is part of the game design. It seems to be throttling the swing animation speed to help make the 30 FPS response less obvious.

Have you tried changing the frame rate to 30 FPS just to compare the 'feel' of the swing there to what you experience at 60 FPS? I'd love to read your thoughts on that if you do, or have.

[fsufan4423]

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I can't imagine you having problems running the game with a 4090 under the hood! Are you able to run it at 60 FPS at 2160p, consistently? I can see where the hitching comes from... I see it on my system at 720p. I think there's *some* degree of laggyness in the swing attributable to 30 FPS, but I think the majority of it is part of the game design. It seems to be throttling the swing animation speed to help make the 30 FPS response less obvious.

Have you tried changing the frame rate to 30 FPS just to compare the 'feel' of the swing there to what you experience at 60 FPS? I'd love to read your thoughts on that if you do, or have.

My CPU has no problems getting 120 fps at 4k with this game, the issue is the frames are all over the place. I'll monitor the power draw from the GPU and it goes as high as 400 watts down to 179 watts just randomly. (constant frame spikes)

I keep the framerates unlocked in just about every game unless it stutters and I'll cap it at 120. I can't do 30....hell, 60 feels like 30 in poorly optimized games. The constant frame drops at 30 would keep it in the 20's.

This game just needs some optimization patches. Every now and then, I'll get a stretch of shots where the frames are solid and its a treat to play. It doesn't make up for the other gameplay issues, but at least I feel like my hardware is being used properly.

[binga30]

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Would you mind sharing your PC's specs here? I upgraded my PC from an i5-4440 to an i7-4770, to go along with my GTX 1070 8GB/16 GB PC-1600 DDR3 RAM,Windows 10 64 bit system. I find the game unplayable at the res I *thought* I'd be able to play it at and that is 1080p. I have to cut the res back to 720p to get close to 60 FPS, and have to cut textures and detail back to medium, or less, to achieve that.

I can maintain 30 FPS at 1080p most of the time, but the game's already throttled swing speed feels even more sluggish at 30 FPS. It's weird, my XBox Series X does a better job of sustaining 30 FPS at 4K, than my supposedly equally, if not more richly appointed gaming PC does at 1080p, with medium or less texture and object details.

I would love to see what this game would look and play like in 4K @ 60 FPS, or higher, but I hate to think about how much I would have to invest in a gaming PC that would make it possible!? From what I'm hearing though, even such a machine is not going to get rid of the animation delay lag at the start of the backswing, nor remove the seemingly overly governed swing animation speed.

R7 5800x3d
RTX 3060 Ti
32gb DDR4 RAM

I play 1080p unlocked frame rate, haven’t actually measured what I get but the game runs pretty fine. I don’t notice any stuttering or lag. I do get the odd crash happening now after 1-2 hr of playing, this wasn’t present last week I might add.

Compared to the console version on XSX this version is killer.


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[Brucie]

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I think putting is the weakest part. I doubt i will ever 3 putt with the dial a distance. If they make a way to turn meter off then it might get better

As a sim golfer going back to the late 1980's, I don't understand why this aspect of the game play doesn't get more negative feedback than it does. Meter putting went out of style two decades ago. But more than that, every other shot type in the game relies on swing stick mechanics and input. But once you get on the green, the game play switches to a 2-click meter system, the only difference being you're clicking the stick rather than a button. It's a bizarre game play design decision given there are a bunch of games that utilize an excellent swing stick putting mechanic, INCLUDING Tiger Woods 2008!

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R7 5800x3d
RTX 3060 Ti
32gb DDR4 RAM

I play 1080p unlocked frame rate, haven’t actually measured what I get but the game runs pretty fine. I don’t notice any stuttering or lag. I do get the odd crash happening now after 1-2 hr of playing, this wasn’t present last week I might add.

Compared to the console version on XSX this version is killer.


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Thanks for this report! Do you have your vsync unlocked and if so, are you using a variable refresh rate capable display?

[binga30]

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Thanks for this report! Do you have your vsync unlocked and if so, are you using a variable refresh rate capable display?

Monitor is a G-Sync compatible AOC, 1080p 165hz. Dynamic refresh rate is enabled.

The crashing thing is more prevalent now, I’d say every 30mins or so the game freezes and throws a direct X error which blames my GPU drivers. Same driver I had on launch day, even reinstalled them fresh. Seems the patch did something….

[pokerlife]

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Monitor is a G-Sync compatible AOC, 1080p 165hz. Dynamic refresh rate is enabled.

The crashing thing is more prevalent now, I’d say every 30mins or so the game freezes and throws a direct X error which blames my GPU drivers. Same driver I had on launch day, even reinstalled them fresh. Seems the patch did something….

My audio cuts out after a few holes now. Also my putter morphs into the driver club and looks like im putting with the driver

[jwilphl]

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I'm holding off on this until maybe it's a bit more refined. I assumed there would be post-launch support and maybe some small additions in time. I bought FIFA this year at launch - first time in MANY years - and it was a disaster, so never again for me regardless of property.

My big question, as has already been lightly discussed, is whether this is a one-and-done like Rory or if they have long-term plans to refresh the game every year? Every other year? I'm guessing this release was a bit of a feeler to see what kind of sales numbers they generate and then determine the next step.

At the very least I'm hoping we don't have to wait another 8 years between titles.

[countryboy]

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I'm holding off on this until maybe it's a bit more refined. I assumed there would be post-launch support and maybe some small additions in time. I bought FIFA this year at launch - first time in MANY years - and it was a disaster, so never again for me regardless of property.

My big question, as has already been lightly discussed, is whether this is a one-and-done like Rory or if they have long-term plans to refresh the game every year? Every other year? I'm guessing this release was a bit of a feeler to see what kind of sales numbers they generate and then determine the next step.

At the very least I'm hoping we don't have to wait another 8 years between titles.

Completely off topic but....I love your avatar. By far my favorite on OS.

[scagwi]

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My big question, as has already been lightly discussed, is whether this is a one-and-done like Rory or if they have long-term plans to refresh the game every year? Every other year?

Nobody really knows

EA and folks around forums that seem to represent them will tell you this is a "long term platform" and "this is just the beginning..." and "stay tuned!" and "buy the game and support it so EA will keep working on it"

On.. and on... and on

The reality is, plans can change at any time.

Rory 2015 was the same story. It launched and needed lots of tweaking (and content, which thankfully EA23 has a lot of to start with) ... but it ultimately got cancelled, despite everyone feeling like that was also a long term, ongoing platform play by EA.

Rory McIlroy himself was quoted as "this is just the beginning!" when that game had just recently launched.

Anyone that tells you they know the long term plan with any certainty -- is just projecting and guessing...They may even have a direct line to folks at EA and that's the "plan" right now... but EA has a history of changing plans... again .. see Rory 15.

EA needs to prove they are in this for the long haul this time.
That will take time. And the onus is on them.

Fans of a variety of their current sports games would mostly tell you ... "don't hold your breath", and I personally would agree.

Modern EA is a different animal than it was back in the more "glory days" of 10+ years ago.

I'd keep my eyes on how much they do or don't do in the next 6 months or so.
There is lots to fix and tweak and add on EA23, particularly on the PC side

Let's see how much they do in the coming months.

[RIFRIG]

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Nobody really knows

EA and folks around forums that seem to represent them will tell you this is a "long term platform" and "this is just the beginning..." and "stay tuned!" and "buy the game and support it so EA will keep working on it"

On.. and on... and on

The reality is, plans can change at any time.

Rory 2015 was the same story. It launched and needed lots of tweaking (and content, which thankfully EA23 has a lot of to start with) ... but it ultimately got cancelled, despite everyone feeling like that was also a long term, ongoing platform play by EA.

Rory McIlroy himself was quoted as "this is just the beginning!" when that game had just recently launched.

Anyone that tells you they know the long term plan with any certainty -- is just projecting and guessing...They may even have a direct line to folks at EA and that's the "plan" right now... but EA has a history of changing plans... again .. see Rory 15.

EA needs to prove they are in this for the long haul this time.
That will take time. And the onus is on them.

Fans of a variety of their current sports games would mostly tell you ... "don't hold your breath", and I personally would agree.

Modern EA is a different animal than it was back in the more "glory days" of 10+ years ago.

I'd keep my eyes on how much they do or don't do in the next 6 months or so.
There is lots to fix and tweak and add on EA23, particularly on the PC side

Let's see how much they do in the coming months.

EA did not support TW14 particularly well either.
New camera options had been requested for that game but nothing materialised. Also the golf bag reset on that game dragged on for months & I’m not sure it ever got completely fixed.
I know you’re not a fan of this game but I’ve played them all & would say this is up there with the best & its potential is huge. Just hope it gets the support we deserve.

[scagwi]

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EA did not support TW14 particularly well either.

EA gets a pass there

TW14 barely got out the door at all, as it was the tail end of the PS3

Man I wish that game and engine had gotten just one single PS4 release (for the longevity and better performance).

It runs and looks amazing in emulation and with upscaling.
I think it could have been a dream on the PS4

[CujoMatty]

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No matter what you think of it, PGA 2k is good for us in regards to the longevity of EA PGA Tour.

EAs ego won't let 2K be the only game in town if it's at all feasible.

I honestly can't even believe how many kicks at the can they've given NBA Live when the basketball market is so solidified by 2k. I think EA is giving NBA another go here soon again.

The boxing genre got a boost from eboxing or whatever it's called and now EA is bringing back Fight Night.

So ya, in my eyes as long as 2k makes an effort in golf, EA will keep plugging away too until they at least obliterate the 2k series.