Playstation Network and discussion

[Rodster]

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It's nice to see we no longer have to use the USB cable while doing the update. Did anyone else notice that?

[ExtremeGamer]

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You would if your 360 stalled, froze and red lighted like mine. Facts are facts...many of them are like broken down cars.

And my PS3 has died too. So they are both broken down cars I guess.

[ausar72]

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The only thing the PS3 has over the 360 is reliability at the moment, other than that it's all 360.



Does the PS3 have online?

Reliability is HUGE! We're talking $400 plus machines.

Why people are looking to give a pass to MS on this is beyond me. In any other field of electronics this would NOT even be an issue. How many people would keep replacing their Digital cameras, TVs, microwaves (and other appliances), 3, 4, 5, 6+ times if they kept breaking down?!? For the exact same reason every time?

Insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

Go figure.



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[Altimus]

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It's nice to see we no longer have to use the USB cable while doing the update. Did anyone else notice that?

Yes, it got pretty annoying having to hook that cable up after every update.

[Eton Rifles]

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I dont understand guys, you need to use a usb cable after every update? please explain.

[yoyoma]

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I dont understand guys, you need to use a usb cable after every update? please explain.

the usb cable to your controller everytime the ps3 updated before the controller had to be plugged back in so reconnect to the ps3. If my memory serves me.

[Rodster]

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the usb cable to your controller everytime the ps3 updated before the controller had to be plugged back in so reconnect to the ps3. If my memory serves me.

You are correct. I just went to update 1.90 and it didn't ask me to connect the USB cable to the controller and then connect it to a USB port on my PS3. So I would say it's relatively new.

[Rodster]

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Reliability is HUGE! We're talking $400 plus machines.

Why people are looking to give a pass to MS on this is beyond me. In any other field of electronics this would NOT even be an issue. How many people would keep replacing their Digital cameras, TVs, microwaves (and other appliances), 3, 4, 5, 6+ times if they kept breaking down?!? For the exact same reason every time?

Insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

Go figure.



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Of course reliability is huge, and I haven't given MS a pass. I'm not like some here without mentioning names where my favorite console company can do no wrong and all I do is ignore the negatives and drumbeat the positives.

MS should get raked over the coals for this and i'm probably one of the harshest critics on OS. But the fact is and it's worth repeating, when the 360 works no console delivers the complete package that the 360 has. It's not even close.

MS needs to sort out the hardware failures and fast because as it's becoming evident gamers will walk away from the 360 out of frustration if MS doesn't sort out these problems.

[ausar72]

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Of course reliability is huge, and I haven't given MS a pass. I'm not like some here without mentioning names where my favorite console company can do no wrong and all I do is ignore the negatives and drumbeat the positives.

MS should get raked over the coals for this and i'm probably one of the harshest critics on OS. But the fact is and it's worth repeating, when the 360 works no console delivers the complete package that the 360 has. It's not even close.

MS needs to sort out the hardware failures and fast because as it's becoming evident gamers will walk away from the 360 out of frustration if MS doesn't sort out these problems.

I agree!

It's a shame that it has to be qualified with when it works...

[bkfount]

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MS needs to sort out the hardware failures and fast because as it's becoming evident gamers will walk away from the 360 out of frustration if MS doesn't sort out these problems.

that doesn't seem the case. People love to flaunt that they have had numerous consoles die on them, and blogs love to tell the single story of a guy who has had 9, 10, or 11 die on him.

The people sticking with it are the hardcore gamers who got it early anyways. When you have spent lots of money on games and are a Live subscriber, it's easier to just get another one.

By all accounts, the 360 will have new insides in time for the big games this fall. These are the games the hardcore 360 owners have been waiting for, and they will also sell 360's to new consumers. MS has the reliability thing worked out, it just takes time to get it done.

[RockyTop1]

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This thread is about the PSN. Let's get back to discussing that

[Court_vision]

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And my PS3 has died too. So they are both broken down cars I guess.

You're the first person I' ve heard of who has a broken PS3. The failure rate is nothing like the 360's...and you know that.

Conversely, there's a million or so broken down 360's.

You seem to want to put a negative spin on any post that is even remotely pro Sony...............so, to save you the time typing, don't bother. I don't care which one is better. I don't care for either company.

But the facts are, the 360 has a MASSIVE failure rate. I can't recall any item in any industry that has failed like this.

To me, it's unncapetable. I paid a lot for my 360 and I'm not living in a country currently where I can return it. As a consumer, it's my right to at least expect it to work.

The failure rates on this are stunning. I am currently in south east asia and the major malls here have all stopped selling the 360. Why? Because too many broke down / too many complaints / too many returns.

Six months ago, the 360 was on the shelves here everywhere. Now, there's none.

The PS3 is now absolutely everywhere...and that has all come about due to MS selling a defective product.

It's simply not acceptable to sell a product that has such a dramatic failure rate.

[Court_vision]

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Reliability is HUGE! We're talking $400 plus machines.

Why people are looking to give a pass to MS on this is beyond me. In any other field of electronics this would NOT even be an issue. How many people would keep replacing their Digital cameras, TVs, microwaves (and other appliances), 3, 4, 5, 6+ times if they kept breaking down?!? For the exact same reason every time?

Insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

Go figure.



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As I said above, I am currently living in Asia and the 360 has been pulled from most shops here. The major malls have removed it totally near where I am staying.

Here, you simply can't send it back. If it doesn't work, you've lost your money...

So...people were going back to the stores / malls and venting their anger towards those guys.

Result = they simply won't sell it anymore.

I don't care for Sony or MS.

I had an Xbox last gen...and bought a 360 this time.

But products should be reliable...that's the bottom line.

MS has blown, completely, a chance to penetrate the market here.

[Court_vision]

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Moving on...1.90 is a nice update.

Sony need to really add a lot more content to their online store though...

[Rodster]

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You're the first person I' ve heard of who has a broken PS3. The failure rate is nothing like the 360's...and you know that.

Conversely, there's a million or so broken down 360's.

You seem to want to put a negative spin on any post that is even remotely pro Sony...............so, to save you the time typing, don't bother. I don't care which one is better. I don't care for either company.

But the facts are, the 360 has a MASSIVE failure rate. I can't recall any item in any industry that has failed like this.

To me, it's unncapetable. I paid a lot for my 360 and I'm not living in a country currently where I can return it. As a consumer, it's my right to at least expect it to work.

The failure rates on this are stunning. I am currently in south east asia and the major malls here have all stopped selling the 360. Why? Because too many broke down / too many complaints / too many returns.

Six months ago, the 360 was on the shelves here everywhere. Now, there's none.

The PS3 is now absolutely everywhere...and that has all come about due to MS selling a defective product.

It's simply not acceptable to sell a product that has such a dramatic failure rate.

I can honestly say and i've been here a while EG does not have an agenda. There are a few here like myself, Candy and EG we call it as we see it. I own every console currently made as well as last gen.

What EG is trying to say is that while the 360 has it's share of failures the PS3 isn't perfect either AND it doesn't have the saturation and game library as the 360 so how do we know how good the PS3 is if a lot of gamers are still on the sideline or are not playing games on the console?

You said the 360 has a high failure rate and he said true but both his 360 and PS3 died. Would you have felt better if he left out the part about his PS3 dying and agreed with that the 360 is unreliable? Because if you do then you get into fanboy territory. :wink:

My PS3 is idle most of the time while the 360 gets more use. I'm not one to go easy on Microsoft. They've designed and built a very unreliable console and they need to take their lumps for it. As it stands the 360 has an unacceptable failure rate that needs to be corrected, fast.