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  • longranger
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 917

    #18961
    Re: Xbox One

    Originally posted by DanH35
    You might already know this but in case you don't, even though your tv isn't full HDR, look to see if you have a setting called HDMI UHD Color. That will an enable the tv to receive an HDR signal and give a little better color. My tv isn't full HDR, but the firmware was patched with this and turning it on makes the picture a little better, and it checks all the boxes in the 4K details menu on the Xbox One S.
    Could u please give me an example of this or a photo of what to look for..........
    Thanks so much
    Longranger
    "Believe"
    www.sportstalk4us.blogspot.com

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    • DanH35
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 2324

      #18962
      Re: Xbox One

      Originally posted by longranger
      Could u please give me an example of this or a photo of what to look for..........
      Thanks so much
      On my tv (Samsung JU6500), you go to Menu, then Picture, then Picture Options, then HDMI UHD Color, from there you can pick which inputs you want to turn that on for. Supposedly, all of the non-HDR 2015 Samsung tv's received this firmware update to support HDR signals. I'm not sure if other manufacturers did anything similar with their tv's.

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      • longranger
        Pro
        • Oct 2008
        • 917

        #18963
        Re: Xbox One

        Ok I just wondering if u could find that out before u buy because that might be a cheaper way to go right now
        Longranger
        "Believe"
        www.sportstalk4us.blogspot.com

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        • NYGiants4Natic
          Banned
          • Apr 2010
          • 2046

          #18964
          Re: Xbox One

          If you guys want to have the best HDR possible make sure you get a FALD tv and not an edge lite LED

          The HDR content will look superior in FALD tv's compared to edge lit LED

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          • franch1se
            All Star
            • Apr 2004
            • 9058

            #18965
            Re: Xbox One

            Loving the new slimmer XBOS.

            Hooked it up to my 4K tv and looks awesome. I was contemplating buying a 4K UHD player vs the new X1. Was able to get $175 for my XBO on Craigslist so it made the decision easier.

            Bought some 4K UHD blu rays and I'm happy i did.

            Re-downloading some games right now so I don't have a review on how they look yet.

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            • tgiordano
              Pro
              • May 2003
              • 571

              #18966
              Re: Xbox One

              How is the Uhd color in game mode. Does it really improve the colors.
              Is the input lag the same when u turn on Uhd color.
              Thxs

              Does the Uhd color only show on HDR compatible games as well

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              • NYGiants4Natic
                Banned
                • Apr 2010
                • 2046

                #18967
                Re: Xbox One

                Originally posted by tgiordano
                How is the Uhd color in game mode. Does it really improve the colors.
                Is the input lag the same when u turn on Uhd color.
                Thxs

                Does the Uhd color only show on HDR compatible games as well
                There is no extra input lag on UDH mode in Samsung sets. HDR only activates if the source calls for it...Right now UHD slightly improves colors and that also depends on the set..4K upscaling is better on xb1 s over the tv

                You can see the difference in terms of sharpness

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                • Artman22
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 4985

                  #18968
                  Re: Xbox One

                  Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                  If you guys want to have the best HDR possible make sure you get a FALD tv and not an edge lite LED

                  The HDR content will look superior in FALD tv's compared to edge lit LED
                  This is extremely misleading and depends on the tv. Just go on rtings.com and you'll see that the best 2016 tv they highly recommend after the OLED LG's is the Samsung ks8000 series which is edge lit over the FALD 3rd place VIZIO. I've chatted back and forth with many people on AVS and other sites who've bought both models and the majority say the Samsung ks8000 has the better picture.
                  NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                  • NYGiants4Natic
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2046

                    #18969
                    Re: Xbox One

                    Originally posted by Artman22
                    This is extremely misleading and depends on the tv. Just go on rtings.com and you'll see that the best 2016 tv they highly recommend after the OLED LG's is the Samsung ks8000 series which is edge lit over the FALD 3rd place VIZIO. I've chatted back and forth with many people on AVS and other sites who've bought both models and the majority say the Samsung ks8000 has the better picture.
                    Listen man just because you recently bought the tv does not mean you need to get defensive about it. Do a quick search on FALD vs LED before making that claim

                    Here is the review on the KS8000 which is mid tier Samsung panel


                    Picture quality

                    The KS8000 performs very well in bright rooms and with brighter material, but in demanding home theater environments it didn't look its best. Black levels are relatively light, and Samsung's dimming didn't perform as well as the competition to enhance contrast. Uniformity along the edges is also an issue, especially noticeable with letterbox bars and HDR material.


                    Dim lighting: The KS8000 was a middling performer in my lineup in a dark room. Its black levels weren't as deep as the LG OLED, the JS9500, the Sony or the Vizio, leading to a more washed-out look in dark scenes. During "The Revenant," for example, the letterbox bars and shadows were noticeably lighter in the Chapter 4 scene where Hugh reassures his son Hawk at the campsite.

                    I also noticed more blooming on the KS8000, where bright areas would spill over and illuminate the letterbox bars and other dark areas, hurting the perception of contrast. The bottom edge of the TV, right next to the bottom frame, also often appeared brighter than the rest of the image, especially below a highlight. I chalk this issue up to limitations with the KS8000's edge-lit system, and it's something the edge-lit Sony and the full-array Vizio handled much more cleanly.


                    Bright lighting: One of Samsung's biggest claims for its 2016 TVs revolves around light output, and the KS8000 certainly delivers an extremely bright image. With SDR sources it beat all of the other TVs in our lineup with the exception of the Sony and the JS9500.


                    Uniformity: The KS8000 was the worst TV in my lineup in this category. Its extreme top and bottom edges glowed brighter than the rest of the screen. The effect was visible in all kinds of scenes, particularly dark ones but also very bright ones. As I mentioned above, it appeared in movies with letterbox bars, but I also saw it in other program material. I wouldn't call it a deal-breaker, but it might be enough to bother some viewers.


                    HDR and 4K video: Despite the massive differences in light output, the KS8000's HDR strengths and weaknesses were very similar to those of its standard dynamic range image. Its lighter black levels and less-uniform screen were even more visible with HDR since it calls for a maxed-out backlight setting, and overall its HDR image fell short of the Sony and Vizio.


                    Nobody is going to deny that FALD trumps Edge Lit all day everyday.. OLED is the best but HDR can suffer a bit on the OLED due to the OLED being a dimmer set to the FALD LED.

                    I do not think anyone at AVS will tell you to choose LED Edge Lit over LED FALD or OLED

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                    • Artman22
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 4985

                      #18970
                      Xbox One

                      Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                      Listen man just because you recently bought the tv does not mean you need to get defensive about it. Do a quick search on FALD vs LED before making that claim

                      Here is the review on the KS8000 which is mid tier Samsung panel


                      Picture quality

                      The KS8000 performs very well in bright rooms and with brighter material, but in demanding home theater environments it didn't look its best. Black levels are relatively light, and Samsung's dimming didn't perform as well as the competition to enhance contrast. Uniformity along the edges is also an issue, especially noticeable with letterbox bars and HDR material.


                      Dim lighting: The KS8000 was a middling performer in my lineup in a dark room. Its black levels weren't as deep as the LG OLED, the JS9500, the Sony or the Vizio, leading to a more washed-out look in dark scenes. During "The Revenant," for example, the letterbox bars and shadows were noticeably lighter in the Chapter 4 scene where Hugh reassures his son Hawk at the campsite.

                      I also noticed more blooming on the KS8000, where bright areas would spill over and illuminate the letterbox bars and other dark areas, hurting the perception of contrast. The bottom edge of the TV, right next to the bottom frame, also often appeared brighter than the rest of the image, especially below a highlight. I chalk this issue up to limitations with the KS8000's edge-lit system, and it's something the edge-lit Sony and the full-array Vizio handled much more cleanly.


                      Bright lighting: One of Samsung's biggest claims for its 2016 TVs revolves around light output, and the KS8000 certainly delivers an extremely bright image. With SDR sources it beat all of the other TVs in our lineup with the exception of the Sony and the JS9500.


                      Uniformity: The KS8000 was the worst TV in my lineup in this category. Its extreme top and bottom edges glowed brighter than the rest of the screen. The effect was visible in all kinds of scenes, particularly dark ones but also very bright ones. As I mentioned above, it appeared in movies with letterbox bars, but I also saw it in other program material. I wouldn't call it a deal-breaker, but it might be enough to bother some viewers.


                      HDR and 4K video: Despite the massive differences in light output, the KS8000's HDR strengths and weaknesses were very similar to those of its standard dynamic range image. Its lighter black levels and less-uniform screen were even more visible with HDR since it calls for a maxed-out backlight setting, and overall its HDR image fell short of the Sony and Vizio.


                      Nobody is going to deny that FALD trumps Edge Lit all day everyday.. OLED is the best but HDR can suffer a bit on the OLED due to the OLED being a dimmer set to the FALD LED.

                      I do not think anyone at AVS will tell you to choose LED Edge Lit over LED FALD or OLED
                      I know the difference between edge lit and FALD even though you tried explaining it. I never got defensive. I was very specific and compared the 2 best TVs under the $6,000-$5,000 OLED LG out this year. You do realize that the Vizio P only has low input lag on one HDMI port and that's port #5 and that port doesn't support HDR. If you go on any other HDMI port with with HDR enabled it's averaging 65ms and 38ms without HDR. I'm honestly considering getting the OLED LG, I don't know if I want to spend $5,000 on a tv. Also, please provide the link to this review. I'd like to see who reviewed it and if it's a respected credible site. Here's my link to rtings.com http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/65-inch/best

                      Edit: After reading it carefully it sounds like a CNET review. I hope you know CNET is considered the McDonald's of tech sites lol. I hope I'm wrong...
                      Last edited by Artman22; 08-08-2016, 02:38 AM.
                      NBA2K is the standard of sports games period.

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                      • mestevo
                        Gooney Goo Goo
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19556

                        #18971
                        Re: Xbox One

                        I wish there was a little nub of a microphone I could plug in to an Xbox controller to use the 'talk to a headset' addition in this latest patch to use Cortana w/out one.

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                        • murph17
                          Rock Band FTW!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1014

                          #18972
                          Re: Xbox One

                          Originally posted by mestevo
                          I wish there was a little nub of a microphone I could plug in to an Xbox controller to use the 'talk to a headset' addition in this latest patch to use Cortana w/out one.
                          Exactly! They added the IR blaster, they couldn't add a mic? Really needs to be on XB1 Scorpio.

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                          • mgoblue
                            Go Wings!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 25477

                            #18973
                            Re: Xbox One

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            I wish there was a little nub of a microphone I could plug in to an Xbox controller to use the 'talk to a headset' addition in this latest patch to use Cortana w/out one.
                            Originally posted by murph17
                            Exactly! They added the IR blaster, they couldn't add a mic? Really needs to be on XB1 Scorpio.
                            Couldn't you buy one? The controller headphones port works with a headset....gotta be a microphone you could plug into that and it'd work...I know they sell them for smartphones to use a slightly better microphone than the phone itself....
                            Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818

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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #18974
                              Re: Xbox One

                              Originally posted by mgoblue
                              Couldn't you buy one? The controller headphones port works with a headset....gotta be a microphone you could plug into that and it'd work...I know they sell them for smartphones to use a slightly better microphone than the phone itself....
                              Good idea, maybe I'll try something like this - http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=600200

                              Edit:

                              Maybe some better options!

                              - https://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Micro...2D0T7E391D1A55

                              - https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-3-...ini+microphone

                              Think I'll order both of those instead.
                              Last edited by mestevo; 08-08-2016, 11:30 AM.

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                              • mgoblue
                                Go Wings!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 25477

                                #18975
                                Re: Xbox One

                                Originally posted by mestevo
                                Good idea, maybe I'll try something like this - http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=600200

                                Edit:

                                Maybe some better options!

                                - https://www.amazon.com/Menotek-Micro...2D0T7E391D1A55

                                - https://www.amazon.com/Microphone-3-...ini+microphone

                                Think I'll order both of those instead.
                                that should let your controller always listen...I think it'd work. I was thinking the same thing though, just with the Xbox One Media Remote (got my 2nd one in the mail Friday). I could see them adding a mic to that eventually. We have kinect but otherwise it'd be more useful.

                                Still having trouble getting it to change to certain channels, but hoping Cortana gets better.
                                Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818

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