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  • Cabke
    MVP
    • Mar 2006
    • 2607

    #3586
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    This Gizmodo article is interesting. They are saying why they think MS abandoning the DRM/24 hour internet checks is actually bad for gamers. It makes some sense, but why couldn't they still use licenses attached to games, then disable that license once the game is traded in? I also don't see why this means you wouldn't be able to trade in digital games.
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    • TheBleedingRed21
      Game Dev
      • Oct 2010
      • 5071

      #3587
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Honestly, I think they realized how their plan to let you share you games with 10 people was more costly than used game delimma. Never understood the 10 person sharing entire game library but could not buy a used game.

      Now, get rid of required kinect, drop the price even and we might have a race.
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      • Sandman42
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2004
        • 15186

        #3588
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Still sticking with PS4 after today's news. I definitely don't have the expenses to support 2 consoles plus a gaming PC. Main reasons:

        1. Indie devs. The past year of 2 I've grown increasingly tired of AAA games, namely FPS' which I've just been burnt out on lately. I'd rank my experiences with Bastion, Mark of the Ninja, FTL, Fez, Hotline Miami, Spelunky, Binding of Isaac, Super Meat Boy, etc. higher than I've gotten out of the gazillion FPS' released in the past 3 years. I know some indie devs will still have stuff on the One (like Below) but the majority will be PS4 and PC.

        2. Gaikai streaming. Microsoft hasn't announced any backward compatability yet for their console. I never had a PS3 so the prospect of getting to play Journey,Last of Us, Beyond, Uncharted, MGS4 appeals to me.

        3. Microsoft just put me off from the start with the attitude they showed during E3. Even during their statement today it sounded like they were resentful they had to do a 180 because no one agreed with their view of the "future".

        Also it still seems like most of OS is still going PS4. That will tide me over for a few years until I wait for video card prices to drop and then upgrade the 560TI in my PC so it can outperform the consoles.
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        • RJTurneR
          MVP
          • Aug 2010
          • 2183

          #3589
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Also it still seems like most of OS is still going PS4. That will tide me over for a few years until I wait for video card prices to drop and then upgrade the 560TI in my PC so it can outperform the consoles.
          In regards to video cards, are you looking at todays 600/700 series Nvidia and waiting for them to drop? Or just a general drop across the board in the future?

          I only mention Nvidia because you have a 560 now.

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          • MrSerendipity
            MVP
            • Jun 2013
            • 1397

            #3590
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by bcruise
            Yeah, it's big news for any gamer as it represents consumers sending a clear message of being anti-DRM and, for once, a company backing down on it.

            Doesn't change my plans for next-gen, the games I want are still on PS4 and that's not going to change.
            I'm really happy to hear this for the sake of those who simply prefer MS to Sony. I'm Playstation all the way, so this doesn't really change my mind. But I'm sure it will bring back some customers who have been very loyal to the XBox brand throughout the years. It's a good thing for gamers as a whole I think. And you know, I may grab an X1 later on now. Smart of MS to back up and really take a look at what their customers want.

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            • Sandman42
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2004
              • 15186

              #3591
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by RJTurneR
              In regards to video cards, are you looking at todays 600/700 series Nvidia and waiting for them to drop? Or just a general drop across the board in the future?

              I only mention Nvidia because you have a 560 now.
              Waiting for the 700s to drop (or a Titan ). From what I've read a 770 will provide better performance than what's on the consoles. They are $400 now but I'd also need to upgrade my power supply a little bit and I'm not sure if I would need to upgrade my i5 Sandy Bridge CPU or not. I'm wait and see on that front.
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              • SinisterAlex
                Canadian eh?
                • Oct 2009
                • 4551

                #3592
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                Still getting a PS4. I'm thinking long term, the PS4 will have the better exclusives in my opinion.
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                • ubernoob
                  ****
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 15522

                  #3593
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  Originally posted by Sandman42
                  Waiting for the 700s to drop (or a Titan ). From what I've read a 770 will provide better performance than what's on the consoles. They are $400 now but I'd also need to upgrade my power supply a little bit and I'm not sure if I would need to upgrade my i5 Sandy Bridge CPU or not. I'm wait and see on that front.
                  The 660 will perform at about the same level as a PS4. The consoles this next gen are nowhere near as powerful when compared to PC as opposed to how favorably they compared at release last gen.

                  The PS4 is running on what equates to a 7870.

                  I know my 680s can blow what the next gen of consoles offers out of the water. The 660s outperform the 7870.

                  Here's a direct link of the 7870 vs the 570.

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                  • RJTurneR
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2183

                    #3594
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Waiting for the 700s to drop (or a Titan ). From what I've read a 770 will provide better performance than what's on the consoles. They are $400 now but I'd also need to upgrade my power supply a little bit and I'm not sure if I would need to upgrade my i5 Sandy Bridge CPU or not. I'm wait and see on that front.
                    The i5 3570k Ivy is arguably one of the best and considerably cheapest on the market right now. Here in the UK it is priced at £170.00 on Amazon which is incredible. Will pretty much anything you throw at with ease and easy to OC.

                    Not sure on the 4th gen Intels yet though, will need to see some reviews and such first.

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                    • Detroitfan4life1993
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 485

                      #3595
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Still getting ps4 for these reasons

                      100 dollars cheaper
                      Im a diehard baseball fan who hasnt been able to play the show in years
                      Sony is doing and saying all of the right things
                      I was getting bored of the ms exclusives (gears and halo) and want some new games to try.
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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #3596
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        Originally posted by ubernoob
                        The 660 will perform at about the same level as a PS4. The consoles this next gen are nowhere near as powerful when compared to PC as opposed to how favorably they compared at release last gen.

                        The PS4 is running on what equates to a 7870.

                        I know my 680s can blow what the next gen of consoles offers out of the water. The 660s outperform the 7870.

                        Here's a direct link of the 7870 vs the 570.

                        http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=518
                        Question for you - how does an Intel 860 compare to what's in these next-gen consoles? Because aside from that it seems that my PC is right up to spec with the PS4 (7870, 8 GB of RAM). I ask about the I7 because it looks like it only has 4 cores (and 8 threads) to the PS4's 8 core Jaguar AMD.

                        Not that it makes too much difference to me as I can run Infinite at full detail on 1600x900 (native monitor res) which makes me happier than a pig in ****.

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                        • ubernoob
                          ****
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 15522

                          #3597
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Originally posted by bcruise
                          Question for you - how does an Intel 860 compare to what's in these next-gen consoles? Because aside from that it seems that my PC is right up to spec with the PS4 (7870, 8 GB of RAM). I ask about the I7 because it looks like it only has 4 cores (and 8 threads) to the PS4's 8 core Jaguar AMD.

                          Not that it makes too much difference to me as I can run Infinite at full detail on 1600x900 (native monitor res) which makes me happier than a pig in ****.
                          To be honest, I don't know enough about processors to intelligently answer that question. I've never worried about it because I know my processor won't be a bottleneck for me for a long time so I've never looked into it.

                          Sorry.
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                          • Gerg04
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2647

                            #3598
                            So how long after release do you think until we see some games in Redbox? A $2-$6 trial (depending how long you need) is imo a wonderful thing before buying. Especially for launch/near launch titles that are a wait-and-see before purchasing type game.

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                            • EnigmaNemesis
                              Animal Liberation
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 12216

                              #3599
                              Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                              I'll download DriveClub, just because it's free. I'll do the same for War Thunder when it comes out. I'm definitely going to pick up The Order 1886. I think Planetside 2 will be a PC/PS4 exclusive when it comes out and I'm interested in that one. Wolfenstein: The New Order looks interesting but I'm not sure if it's a PS4 exclusive or not. I like The Crew and I think it's a PS4 Exclusive. But DriveClub is the only one out of all of those that will be Launch.
                              Planetside 2 is definitely an exclusive, since it is a SOE game (Sony Online Entertainment).
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                              • Rules
                                Go Irish
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3813

                                #3600
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                I want to see Speed Devils Online brought back. It was always intense knowing you could lose your ride if you lost.

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