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  • SeaTownGamer
    MVP
    • Jul 2015
    • 1551

    #29371
    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
    I have not, but I would put it in 'safe mode' and 'rebuild database' to see if that corrects it.

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    Would I lose all my saves and all my digital downloads if I did that?

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    • EnigmaNemesis
      Animal Liberation
      • Apr 2006
      • 12216

      #29372
      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

      Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
      Would I lose all my saves and all my digital downloads if I did that?
      Nope. You do not lose anything on the PS4.

      Just select 'Rebuild Database' only.

      It is like a 'defray', as well as fixing some errors in cases.
      Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 07-17-2016, 10:43 AM.
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      • The JareBear
        Be Good To One Another
        • Jul 2010
        • 11560

        #29373
        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

        Originally posted by Picci
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        • SeaTownGamer
          MVP
          • Jul 2015
          • 1551

          #29374
          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

          Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
          Nope. You do not lose anything on the PS4.

          Just select 'Rebuild Database' only.

          It is like a 'defray', as well as fixing some errors in cases.
          Thanks bro. I'm going to try it now

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          • The JareBear
            Be Good To One Another
            • Jul 2010
            • 11560

            #29375
            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
            Nope. You do not lose anything on the PS4.

            Just select 'Rebuild Database' only.

            It is like a 'defray', as well as fixing some errors in cases.
            Originally posted by SeaTownGamer
            Thanks bro. I'm going to try it now
            One thing I haven't been able to figure out is if it is safe to do this with a SSD in the system.

            I used Rebuild Database all the time with my other mechanical drives in my PS4 but since switching to SSD I don't know if I should still do it or not since I know PC they say to never defrag SSDs

            Anyone have input on this?
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            • EnigmaNemesis
              Animal Liberation
              • Apr 2006
              • 12216

              #29376
              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

              Originally posted by The JareBear
              One thing I haven't been able to figure out is if it is safe to do this with a SSD in the system.

              I used Rebuild Database all the time with my other mechanical drives in my PS4 but since switching to SSD I don't know if I should still do it or not since I know PC they say to never defrag SSDs

              Anyone have input on this?
              I do not think it is a traditional 'defrag', since the file system is handled differently than how Windows is. The PS4 does it's own 'defrag' maintenance every new game or patch that is installed according to some devs I spoken with.

              I believe it is more like a file management and cache wipe (like on Android when wiping the cache partition fixes a lot of app issues if the system cache gets corruptions or starts acting wonky). So it should be fine with an SSD in that regards. Especially if you run into hitchy applications that decided to crop up, as well as errors.
              Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 07-17-2016, 01:46 PM.
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              • LowerWolf
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2006
                • 12268

                #29377
                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                I've rebuilt the database on my hybrid drive with no issues.

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                • Burns11
                  Greatness Has Arrived
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 7406

                  #29378
                  Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                  I would assume PS4 uses some variation of UFS since it's OS is based on BSD, UFS has a process where as writes are done to the disk it is defragged at the same time, which sounds like what the Dev was describing.

                  I'm going to assume the database is literally just a database of files and their associated programs, rebuilding it literally rebuilds it so that old files that were deleted are no longer in the database and all files associated with each program are put together in the database, so it cleans up the database that can cause file location delays and cause issues that way.

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                  • Mabster
                    Crunchy
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 7659

                    #29379
                    Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                    Originally posted by LowerWolf
                    I've rebuilt the database on my hybrid drive with no issues.
                    Defraging a SSD drive won't make it just stop working immediately. They only have so many writes in their lifetime so by defraging you decrease its life by one full write cycle. Not a huge deal but if constantly done it could effect it's lifespan.
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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #29380
                      Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                      Originally posted by Burns11
                      I would assume PS4 uses some variation of UFS since it's OS is based on BSD, UFS has a process where as writes are done to the disk it is defragged at the same time, which sounds like what the Dev was describing.

                      I'm going to assume the database is literally just a database of files and their associated programs, rebuilding it literally rebuilds it so that old files that were deleted are no longer in the database and all files associated with each program are put together in the database, so it cleans up the database that can cause file location delays and cause issues that way.
                      This is exactly what it is I believe. Thanks for the more detailed clarification.
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                      • DanH35
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 2324

                        #29381
                        Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                        There's a rumor from a posting on Amazon in Spain showing that the Neo releases on October 13.

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                        • Burns11
                          Greatness Has Arrived
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 7406

                          #29382
                          Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                          Amazon came out and said that was an erroneous listing for the PSVR

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                          • Artman22
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 4984

                            #29383
                            Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                            Sony is being so quiet with the NEO that I don't think it's coming this year.
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                            • The JareBear
                              Be Good To One Another
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 11560

                              #29384
                              Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                              Originally posted by Artman22
                              Sony is being so quiet with the NEO that I don't think it's coming this year.
                              Yeah I've definitely been wondering about that myself.

                              I guess, realistically, how long will they leave between an announcement and actual release? I'm trying to figure out when we reach the "point of no return" for a release this year, if that makes sense.
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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #29385
                                Re: PlayStation 4 Discussion

                                Originally posted by The JareBear
                                Yeah I've definitely been wondering about that myself.

                                I guess, realistically, how long will they leave between an announcement and actual release? I'm trying to figure out when we reach the "point of no return" for a release this year, if that makes sense.
                                I would say middle of September is the point of no return.
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