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  • The Chef
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    • Sep 2003
    • 13684

    #76
    Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

    Originally posted by XxGamerXx
    I agree 100% that ND games are superior but you cannot say ND games are superior so no chance Sony puts them on Xbox but Xbox will put their games on Sony....I mean really?
    I never actually said that so I have no idea what you're getting at. I simply said there was no way Sony was going to put ND games on the Xbox, that's it. I couldn't care less if Microsoft puts any of their exclusives on the PS5 and never mentioned they should. Sometimes you take offense to things that weren't even said for some unknown reason.
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    • Skyboxer
      Donny Baseball!
      • Jul 2002
      • 20302

      #77
      Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

      Originally posted by XxGamerXx
      Fanboy? No Sky it has to do with the way for the last few years it has been well why buy an xbox when they have no games so there is no reason to

      But once they have a stable of games coming, the other side says is not fair to not put it on sony. Really?

      Spiderman is the biggest super hero in most cases and only Sony fans get to enjoy it. Which sony fans tell you that this is the reason to buy a sony console because of the exclusives. But when the other side gets exclusives it is not fair?

      I have PS5 and series X pre ordered and I game on a 2080ti and waiting to buy a 3090 when available.

      And I spent this gen mostly on ps4 and pc. So fanboy not....Just pointing out way things shake out in the end when the shoe is on the other foot
      I removed the "fanboy" statement as I shouldn't go down that path.
      I know what you're saying as I have seen it also.
      Just when you quote me with that reply and I have never been a fanboy of anything... makes me itch.

      My next step is explaining when my wife inevitably sees recurring charges for Game Pass lol
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      • Picci
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 4517

        #78
        Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

        Originally posted by XxGamerXx
        Only way the games will appear on SOny is if Sony puts xbox game pass on their console. The Show going multi has zero to do with Sony and everything to do with MLB

        The only games that will go to Sony are the online specific games but single player triple A. Not going to happen IMO


        I know its your opinion but your misinformed. SIE pays the rights to MLB/Minor League/HOf licenses. I'm sure license fees usually start going up in years. The reason they're moving to other platforms is because to receive more of a profit, they're going to need more sales. Seeking additional platforms will ease the fees they give to MLB. So I guess you're correct, MLB's fees sure does play a big role in this.

        It's not a console war, its a cloud war.

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        • XxGamerXx
          MVP
          • Jul 2018
          • 1029

          #79
          Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

          To those who claim the games will come to PS5...Think about this

          If that is the plan, why would MS spend 7.5 billion dollars to put it on PS as well when they could have spent a fraction of that to make a deal to have them put the games on game pass but not buy them so it will be multi plat.

          They spent 7.5 billion to force Sony fans into gamepass. Not xbox but gamepass because it can be had on pc and xbox consoles.

          If a sony fan has a decent rig and a ps5 and the game is coming to both they will most likely spend 70 to play it on ps5 because that is where they enjoy playing instead of buying it on gamepass pc.

          I will be floored if Sony sees these games except for Elder Scrolls online and the contracts for Deathloop and Tokyo

          And guess what, I think Sony ps5 will get those games based on contract but now it will most likely be on game pass as well without the timed exclusivity

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          • dickey1331
            Everyday is Faceurary!
            • Sep 2009
            • 14285

            #80
            Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

            Originally posted by XxGamerXx
            To those who claim the games will come to PS5...Think about this



            If that is the plan, why would MS spend 7.5 billion dollars to put it on PS as well when they could have spent a fraction of that to make a deal to have them put the games on game pass but not buy them so it will be multi plat.



            They spent 7.5 billion to force Sony fans into gamepass. Not xbox but gamepass because it can be had on pc and xbox consoles.



            If a sony fan has a decent rig and a ps5 and the game is coming to both they will most likely spend 70 to play it on ps5 because that is where they enjoy playing instead of buying it on gamepass pc.



            I will be floored if Sony sees these games except for Elder Scrolls online and the contracts for Deathloop and Tokyo



            And guess what, I think Sony ps5 will get those games based on contract but now it will most likely be on game pass as well without the timed exclusivity


            It makes more financial sense to put it on game pass for free and make those on PS5 pay $70 for it. Phil Spencer has already said games with come to other consoles on a case by case basis. It’s really expensive to make large open world games like fallout and elder scrolls. And Spencer has repeatedly said he doesn’t like console exclusives and you should be able to play your games wherever you want.

            Amazon showed off their gaming service today. That is who Microsoft is competing with. Not Sony.



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            • XxGamerXx
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              • Jul 2018
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              #81
              Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

              Originally posted by dickey1331
              It makes more financial sense to put it on game pass for free and make those on PS5 pay $70 for it. Phil Spencer has already said games with come to other consoles on a case by case basis. It’s really expensive to make large open world games like fallout and elder scrolls. And Spencer has repeatedly said he doesn’t like console exclusives and you should be able to play your games wherever you want.

              Amazon showed off their gaming service today. That is who Microsoft is competing with. Not Sony.



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              Yes phil said that which is why he is putting games on PC which is the biggest platform and through xcloud.

              If you are going to hold Phil to that comment, where is Halo, Gears, Horizon franchises on Sony console? They made this purchase to enhance game pass subscription on pc and xbox

              It is not coming to Sony consoles, if they did not intent to make it exclusive to pc and xbox they could have just spend much less like they did with EA to put it on game pass.....Why spend the money to keep the status quo when putting it on sony means MS has to pay Sony 30% on each copy sold just to be on Sony and not get those Sony fans into gamepass. LOL

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              • dickey1331
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                • Sep 2009
                • 14285

                #82
                Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                Yes phil said that which is why he is putting games on PC which is the biggest platform and through xcloud.



                If you are going to hold Phil to that comment, where is Halo, Gears, Horizon franchises on Sony console? They made this purchase to enhance game pass subscription on pc and xbox



                It is not coming to Sony consoles, if they did not intent to make it exclusive to pc and xbox they could have just spend much less like they did with EA to put it on game pass.....Why spend the money to keep the status quo when putting it on sony means MS has to pay Sony 30% on each copy sold just to be on Sony and not get those Sony fans into gamepass. LOL


                Halo gears and horizon have never been on PlayStation. Fallout doom and elder scrolls have been. Those probably will continue to be multi platform. Microsoft is going to pay a 30% cut to the companies that get xcloud anyway. Sony gets a 30% cut on Minecraft. Nintendo is getting their cut on cup head and ori. Microsoft will get their cut with the show.

                It’s certainly possible they make all of Bethesda exclusive. It just doesn’t fit Microsoft’s narrative for the last several years.

                Either way I preordered both consoles so I’ll play them wherever they end up.


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                • mgoblue
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 25477

                  #83
                  Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                  We will know in like 2 years when Starfield or something releases lol...I'm sure Phil knows, but no reason for them to announce anything now
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                  • XxGamerXx
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                    • Jul 2018
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                    #84
                    Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion



                    Sure don't sound like Phil wants to expand to sony

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                    • mgoblue
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #85
                      Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                      Originally posted by XxGamerXx
                      https://twitter.com/Rand_al_Thor_19/...523645953?s=19

                      Sure don't sound like Phil wants to expand to sony
                      Similar to how we have heard zero about where The Show is coming, because Sony wants people to think it's only Playstation....There is ZERO benefit from saying anything about coming to PS5 even if it was or was not. Let people wonder.
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                      • XxGamerXx
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                        • Jul 2018
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                        #86
                        Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        Similar to how we have heard zero about where The Show is coming, because Sony wants people to think it's only Playstation....There is ZERO benefit from saying anything about coming to PS5 even if it was or was not. Let people wonder.
                        Am willing to bet that the Xbox and switch versions will no be done by Sony san diego and they will get another company to port the game to the other consoles

                        Unless Sony funds Sony San Diego to get a bigger staff I have a hard time seeing them do the version for 3 consoles

                        Makes sense that they ask MS or Nintendo to foot the bill for another dev to port the game and Sony just reaps the benefit of the sales

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                        • Picci
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #87
                          Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                          So what do I think after reading a few? I think its time to leave this nest...................


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                          • peter42O
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                            • May 2018
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                            #88
                            Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                            Bethesda's games will be exclusive to the Xbox eco-system because Microsoft wants you in it. Putting the games on PlayStation 5 makes zero sense for Microsoft and their eco-system.

                            Want to play Bethesda games after Deathloop and Tokyo? Buy an Xbox Series X or Series S. Play them on PC via Steam or Windows 10 Game Pass. Or via X-Cloud.

                            It's very simple.

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                            • XxGamerXx
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                              • Jul 2018
                              • 1029

                              #89
                              Re: Microsoft buys Bethesda for 7.5 billion

                              Originally posted by peter42O
                              Bethesda's games will be exclusive to the Xbox eco-system because Microsoft wants you in it. Putting the games on PlayStation 5 makes zero sense for Microsoft and their eco-system.

                              Want to play Bethesda games after Deathloop and Tokyo? Buy an Xbox Series X or Series S. Play them on PC via Steam or Windows 10 Game Pass. Or via X-Cloud.

                              It's very simple.

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