fans of underground rap?

**jmood88** · 03-12-2006, 10:30 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by xcelldarim31

I was never a huge fan of Doom... I would go as far to say, he was on my "Never Listen to-List" along with Eminem, 50 Cent, and G-Unit... I never liked Doom, but I'm starting to like him a little more as time passes...

I HATE DEAD PREZ tho!

Noooooo. Dead prez is great, although they do believe in a lot of conspiracies. They should join up with Immortal Technique and make a conspiracy tour.

**X*Cell** · 03-12-2006, 11:00 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by jmood88

Noooooo. Dead prez is great, although they do believe in a lot of conspiracies. They should join up with Immortal Technique and make a conspiracy tour.

I hate how they are so RACIST... there is no need for it.

**kuruption** · 03-13-2006, 01:38 AM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by 3rdAnswer

Why does everyone hate Doom so much?

Reasons why I like Doom...

-He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
-He's a very good storyteller
-Very creative
-Nothing he does sounds forced

I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.

Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.

Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.

hes has a very strong following but as far as the most overrated underground emcee? i dont believe so .

that would have to go to immortal technique(though i do enjoy his music)

whats wrong with immortal technique.?
he can write good lyrics but
-his flow is average
his breath control might be the worst in the industry and is so damn annoying
-he raps off beat
-alot of his songs have zero replay value(dance with the devil )
-ever heard him freestyle?

whats wrong with doom?(im repeating myself)
-horrible flow
-horrible voice
-can write good rhymes sometimes but also says alot of off the wall ish(nonsense)

**kuruption** · 03-13-2006, 01:38 AM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by xcelldarim31

I hate how they are so RACIST... there is no need for it.

yeah i dont like dead prez either , though they do got skills - i just dont like their content.

**sense** · 03-13-2006, 02:32 AM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by kuruption

hes has a very strong following but as far as the most overrated underground emcee? i dont believe so .

that would have to go to immortal technique(though i do enjoy his music)

whats wrong with immortal technique.?
he can write good lyrics but
-his flow is average
his breath control might be the worst in the industry and is so damn annoying
-he raps off beat
-alot of his songs has zero replay value(dance with the devil )
-ever he him freestyle?

whats wrong with doom?(im repeating myself)
-horrible flow
-horrible voice
-can write good rhymes sometimes but also says alot of off the wall ish(nonsense)

-Certian songs he raps off beat i'll give you that.
-dance with the devil is one of the best storytold songs EVER
-he's won over a dozen well known underground freestyle battles

**sense** · 03-13-2006, 02:42 AM

Re: fans of underground rap?

slum village (r.i.p. dilla)
supastition
Little brother
big tone
royce da 5'9
immortal technique
pack fm
tonedeff
sean price (matter fact the whole boot camp clik)
m.f. doom (his music i find is entertaining)
jean grae (sickest female, better yet one of the sickest emcees in the game)
pumpkinhead
roots (i still consider them underground at this moment)
one. be. lo.
planet asia
kid chaos
apathy
jedi mind tricks
cunninlynguist

**kuruption** · 03-13-2006, 12:23 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by sense

-Certian songs he raps off beat i'll give you that.
-dance with the devil is one of the best storytold songs EVER
-he's won over a dozen well known underground freestyle battles

yeah i know hes won plenty underground battles , but ive also heard him spit garbage on alot of freestyles....(maybe i just havent heard his good battles)

yes (dance with the devil is one of the best storys ever) but i cant listen to it anymore -i heard it once , than tried to do it again and it was really stale. same with that song(forgot whats its called) its a story about some chick he loved .

with that being said , i really do enjoy his music and would call myself an it fan but i still feel hes really overrated.

**jmood88** · 03-13-2006, 12:29 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by 3rdAnswer

Why does everyone hate Doom so much?

Reasons why I like Doom...

-He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
-He's a very good storyteller
-Very creative
-Nothing he does sounds forced

I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.

Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.

Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.

Actually a lot of his stuff does sound forced. It sounds like he's just being weird for the sake of being weird and his annoying ***, monotone voice doesn't make things much better. Add to that the fact that he has almost no flow to speak of and it's pretty easy to see why people don't like him. For some reason a lot of underground fans like him and that's why I call him overrated.

**3rdAnswer** · 03-13-2006, 05:02 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Doom is a big fan of the Marvel Universe, so to me, I view him as a few different unique comic book characters in and of himself.

**jmood88** · 03-13-2006, 05:08 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by 3rdAnswer

Doom is a big fan of the Marvel Universe, so to me, I view him as a few different unique comic book characters in and of himself.

I am a marvel fan too but that doesn't change anything about him. I guess I'll just never get his appeal, even though i do like a couple of his songs but those songs are mostly just good beats.

**Nivek** · 03-13-2006, 08:52 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by 3rdAnswer

Why does everyone hate Doom so much?

Reasons why I like Doom...

-He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
-He's a very good storyteller
-Very creative
-Nothing he does sounds forced

I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.

Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.

Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.

I'm prolly the biggest doom groupie out there, but he's a more overrated MC then he is a producer. I agree tho, his style is different and that's what makes it unique. I actually like the fact that's not bound by 16 bars; but I wouldn't call him a wack MC by any means. I'd recommend listening to his special herbs collection if you're not really impressed with his production. The last two installments, 7+8 and 9+0 are dope.

**3rdAnswer** · 03-13-2006, 10:50 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by Nivek

I'm prolly the biggest doom groupie out there, but he's a more overrated MC then he is a producer. I agree tho, his style is different and that's what makes it unique. I actually like the fact that's not bound by 16 bars; but I wouldn't call him a wack MC by any means. I'd recommend listening to his special herbs collection if you're not really impressed with his production. The last two installments, 7+8 and 9+0 are dope.

I thought 7 and 8 were his worst, though not horrible. 9+0 though, that's a different story. The 9+0 joint is real nice.

Do you have 5+6?

**Nivek** · 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Originally posted by 3rdAnswer

I thought 7 and 8 were his worst, though not horrible. 9+0 though, that's a different story. The 9+0 joint is real nice.

Do you have 5+6?

Yep, I have the whole collection...surprised you didn't like 7+8. Buckeyes is my favourite doom instrumental along with Devil's Shoestring.

**3rdAnswer** · 03-13-2006, 11:59 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

No I like 7+8, it's just his worst one. From that album I like High John, Mandrake and Licorice.

My favorites out of all of the albums are:
Jasmine Blossoms (5 and 6)
Burdock Root (9 and 0)
Arrow Root (1 and 2)
Dragon's Blood (5 and 6)

**Fresh Tendrils** · 03-14-2006, 10:48 PM

Re: fans of underground rap?

Alright. I picked up Godlovesugly over the weekend and love it. I'll probably pick up another Atmosphere album soon. Which one would you guys suggest picking up next?

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