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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 Noooooo. Dead prez is great, although they do believe in a lot of conspiracies. They should join up with Immortal Technique and make a conspiracy tour.Originally posted by xcelldarim31Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
 If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 I hate how they are so RACIST... there is no need for it.Originally posted by jmood88Noooooo. Dead prez is great, although they do believe in a lot of conspiracies. They should join up with Immortal Technique and make a conspiracy tour.SAN ANTONIO SPURSComment
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 hes has a very strong following but as far as the most overrated underground emcee? i dont believe so .Originally posted by 3rdAnswerWhy does everyone hate Doom so much?
 
 Reasons why I like Doom...
 
 -He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
 -He's a very good storyteller
 -Very creative
 -Nothing he does sounds forced
 
 I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.
 
 Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.
 
 Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.
 
 that would have to go to immortal technique(though i do enjoy his music)
 
 whats wrong with immortal technique.?
 he can write good lyrics but
 -his flow is average
 his breath control might be the worst in the industry and is so damn annoying
 -he raps off beat
 -alot of his songs have zero replay value(dance with the devil )
 -ever heard him freestyle?
 
 
 whats wrong with doom?(im repeating myself)
 -horrible flow
 -horrible voice
 -can write good rhymes sometimes but also says alot of off the wall ish(nonsense)And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 yeah i dont like dead prez either , though they do got skills - i just dont like their content.Originally posted by xcelldarim31I hate how they are so RACIST... there is no need for it.And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 -Certian songs he raps off beat i'll give you that.Originally posted by kuruptionhes has a very strong following but as far as the most overrated underground emcee? i dont believe so .
 
 that would have to go to immortal technique(though i do enjoy his music)
 
 whats wrong with immortal technique.?
 he can write good lyrics but
 -his flow is average
 his breath control might be the worst in the industry and is so damn annoying
 -he raps off beat
 -alot of his songs has zero replay value(dance with the devil )
 -ever he him freestyle?
 
 
 whats wrong with doom?(im repeating myself)
 -horrible flow
 -horrible voice
 -can write good rhymes sometimes but also says alot of off the wall ish(nonsense)
 -dance with the devil is one of the best storytold songs EVER
 -he's won over a dozen well known underground freestyle battlesLast edited by sense; 03-13-2006, 02:43 AM.OS Madden league (360) Giants: 0-0
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 slum village (r.i.p. dilla)
 supastition
 Little brother
 big tone
 royce da 5'9
 immortal technique
 pack fm
 tonedeff
 sean price (matter fact the whole boot camp clik)
 m.f. doom (his music i find is entertaining)
 jean grae (sickest female, better yet one of the sickest emcees in the game)
 pumpkinhead
 roots (i still consider them underground at this moment)
 one. be. lo.
 planet asia
 kid chaos
 apathy
 jedi mind tricks
 cunninlynguistLast edited by sense; 03-13-2006, 02:46 AM.OS Madden league (360) Giants: 0-0
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 yeah i know hes won plenty underground battles , but ive also heard him spit garbage on alot of freestyles....(maybe i just havent heard his good battles)Originally posted by sense-Certian songs he raps off beat i'll give you that.
 -dance with the devil is one of the best storytold songs EVER
 -he's won over a dozen well known underground freestyle battles
 
 yes (dance with the devil is one of the best storys ever) but i cant listen to it anymore -i heard it once , than tried to do it again and it was really stale. same with that song(forgot whats its called) its a story about some chick he loved .
 
 with that being said , i really do enjoy his music and would call myself an it fan but i still feel hes really overrated.Last edited by kuruption; 03-13-2006, 12:27 PM.And with the third pick - I made the earth sick
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 Actually a lot of his stuff does sound forced. It sounds like he's just being weird for the sake of being weird and his annoying ***, monotone voice doesn't make things much better. Add to that the fact that he has almost no flow to speak of and it's pretty easy to see why people don't like him. For some reason a lot of underground fans like him and that's why I call him overrated.Originally posted by 3rdAnswerWhy does everyone hate Doom so much?
 
 Reasons why I like Doom...
 
 -He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
 -He's a very good storyteller
 -Very creative
 -Nothing he does sounds forced
 
 I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.
 
 Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.
 
 Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
 If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)Comment
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 Doom is a big fan of the Marvel Universe, so to me, I view him as a few different unique comic book characters in and of himself.-Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 I am a marvel fan too but that doesn't change anything about him. I guess I'll just never get his appeal, even though i do like a couple of his songs but those songs are mostly just good beats.Originally posted by 3rdAnswerDoom is a big fan of the Marvel Universe, so to me, I view him as a few different unique comic book characters in and of himself.Originally posted by BlzerLet me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
 If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)Comment
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 I'm prolly the biggest doom groupie out there, but he's a more overrated MC then he is a producer. I agree tho, his style is different and that's what makes it unique. I actually like the fact that's not bound by 16 bars; but I wouldn't call him a wack MC by any means. I'd recommend listening to his special herbs collection if you're not really impressed with his production. The last two installments, 7+8 and 9+0 are dope.Originally posted by 3rdAnswerWhy does everyone hate Doom so much?
 
 Reasons why I like Doom...
 
 -He throws away what a rap song SHOULD sound like and he expands the boundaries of the genre
 -He's a very good storyteller
 -Very creative
 -Nothing he does sounds forced
 
 I'm not blown away by his beats, and to me, thats the most overrated part about him. All he does is take a classic song, loop it, and throw some drums on there.
 
 Mmm..Food is a great album, along with Vaudeville Villain (Viktor Vaughn) and the Madvillainy CD is just a CLASSIC.
 
 Plus, it's hard to say he's overrated when the majority of the people here don't like him. Either people REALLY like him or REALLLLLLLY hate him.Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.Comment
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 I thought 7 and 8 were his worst, though not horrible. 9+0 though, that's a different story. The 9+0 joint is real nice.Originally posted by NivekI'm prolly the biggest doom groupie out there, but he's a more overrated MC then he is a producer. I agree tho, his style is different and that's what makes it unique. I actually like the fact that's not bound by 16 bars; but I wouldn't call him a wack MC by any means. I'd recommend listening to his special herbs collection if you're not really impressed with his production. The last two installments, 7+8 and 9+0 are dope.
 
 Do you have 5+6?-Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
 www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
 New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 Yep, I have the whole collection...surprised you didn't like 7+8. Buckeyes is my favourite doom instrumental along with Devil's Shoestring.Originally posted by 3rdAnswerI thought 7 and 8 were his worst, though not horrible. 9+0 though, that's a different story. The 9+0 joint is real nice.
 
 Do you have 5+6?Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.Comment
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 No I like 7+8, it's just his worst one. From that album I like High John, Mandrake and Licorice.
 
 My favorites out of all of the albums are:
 Jasmine Blossoms (5 and 6)
 Burdock Root (9 and 0)
 Arrow Root (1 and 2)
 Dragon's Blood (5 and 6)-Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
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 Re: fans of underground rap?
 
 Alright. I picked up Godlovesugly over the weekend and love it. I'll probably pick up another Atmosphere album soon. Which one would you guys suggest picking up next?
 
 
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