***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

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  • Lintyfresh85
    Where have I been?
    • Jul 2002
    • 17492

    #676
    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

    Originally posted by Longhorn
    Man...I've been really pleased with this season.

    But I prefer Jack and Sawyer's characters over everyone else, so the fact that they have focused on those two mainly really makes it entertaining.

    To me, this season has been a lot better than last season. Another reason I probably enjoy it is I don't try to analyze it; I don't try and rack my brain figuring out what this means, what that means, what's going to happen next, etc, etc. I just enjoy it because it's an entertaining TV show.

    Yeah this season is 100 times better than last season... I thought that was pretty obvious
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    • Skerik
      Living in this tube
      • Mar 2004
      • 5215

      #677
      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

      Originally posted by Money99
      When Locke saw that scripture on Echo's stick ("Look North with your eyes" - or however it was phrased) I'm going to be pissed if it ends up giving Locke the idea to climb a tall hill or mountain and then he discovers the 'other' Island.
      If that happens I'm done with this show. These jackasses have been on the island for ove 2 months and nobody had the idea to climb up to take a look at their surroundings?
      I thought the same thing. It kind of reminds me of when they went back to the Pearl a few episodes ago and the one new girl was like, "Hey, maybe we should try to turn these TVs on?" And everyone looked at her like she was some kind of nuclear physicist for coming up with this amazing idea. That would have been the first thing I thought of when I saw those TVs set up like that. What are these people thinking?

      I'm totally on board with the show, but at this point it involves a suspension of disbelief while watching it. There wouldn't be as much of a mystery about everything if the cast acted rationally at every juncture. You know, like telling people about important things they discover instead of everyone keeping everything to themselves, or turning on those TVs when they saw them.

      As for Kate's "worthless" backstory, to me it was yet another reminder that she and Sawyer have been on the run their whole lives. In last night's episode, they finally stopped running and found solace in being in one place with another person. And then moments later, there's Jack telling them to run again. If Kate told him there was nowhere to run, maybe Jack could pressure the Others in the operating room to tell him where their submarine was, or at least that it exists. But I'm sure Kate will say nothing and run away, leaving us with a wild chase through the forests of the Alcatraz island.

      One thing to keep in mind. When Jack was first put in that cell, he heard his father's voice on the intercom. The Others told him the intercom was broken, so Jack thought he was hallucinating due to lack of nutrition. Since then he's heard Sawyer's voice, Juliet's voice, and the voice last night that told him to try the door (which was a setup by the Others) - all of which were real and proved the intercom does in fact work. Jack's dad - alive on the island? I wouldn't be surprised....
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      • Beantown
        #DoYourJob
        • Feb 2005
        • 31523

        #678
        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

        Originally posted by Superstar
        Yeah this season is 100 times better than last season... I thought that was pretty obvious
        I thought so too...but, apparently not.

        'Though, I guess if you don't like Jack and Saywer, or Locke, then yeah...this season probably wouldn't be good for you - but if you don't like the main characters, why are you watching the show?

        EDIT: The voice last night telling him to open the door sound a lot like Alex's, which is weird because Ben didn't know where she was so it's not like he made her help Jack in order to show him the Sawyer and Kate thing.

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        • MachoMyers
          Old School
          • Jul 2002
          • 7670

          #679
          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

          Originally posted by Money99
          - The Others have access to the outside world and yet Ben stays on the island to die of cancer instead of going to a real hospital.
          According to Ben, the day after he found out he had the tumor Jack's plane crashed. He considered it to be fate that a spinal surgeon crashed right after he discovered his illness, thus probably feels inclined to go with Jack as his savior.

          Maybe they have a deal where nobody leaves the Island, no matter what.

          Regardless this show bows to nothing not named 24.

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          • Beantown
            #DoYourJob
            • Feb 2005
            • 31523

            #680
            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

            Originally posted by Skerik
            I thought the same thing. It kind of reminds me of when they went back to the Pearl a few episodes ago and the one new girl was like, "Hey, maybe we should try to turn these TVs on?" And everyone looked at her like she was some kind of nuclear physicist for coming up with this amazing idea. That would have been the first thing I thought of when I saw those TVs set up like that. What are these people thinking?
            At least with that, Locke and Desmond both sorta laughed and looked at each other, as if they recognized that they were both idiots for not thinking of trying that.

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            • rockchisler
              All Star
              • Oct 2002
              • 8290

              #681
              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

              This probably has been brought up already, But do the others have any children you dont see any???
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              • Money99
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                • Sep 2002
                • 12695

                #682
                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                Originally posted by Xavier12
                According to Ben, the day after he found out he had the tumor Jack's plane crashed. He considered it to be fate that a spinal surgeon crashed right after he discovered his illness, thus probably feels inclined to go with Jack as his savior.

                Maybe they have a deal where nobody leaves the Island, no matter what.

                Regardless this show bows to nothing not named 24.
                ***MAJOR SPOILER***
























                Take this for what it's worth but I was listening to a local radio show and some guy called up who claimed he was related to a very low-end producer on the show.
                The guy said that the reason why the Others can't get off the islands is that they have been biologicaly altered to require a certain 'substance' to live. And this substance is only produced on the island.
                He described it as the exact same premise behind Jurassic Park where the dinosaurs needed to consume a certain 'food' that was implanted in all the vegetation on the island. So if they escaped they would die shortly from not getting this certain food or substance in their systems.
                I hope that all makes sense.
                Another spoiler he said was that Ben does not die and he becomes incredibly irrate over what Jack did. So he starts a massive war with the Losties.
                I really hope that isn't true because I'm already bored to tears with this whole 'us vs. them' thing.






























                ***END SPOILERS***

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                • Ents690
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 469

                  #683
                  Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                  Anytime there is a voice of a dead person, I am going to assume it's the monster

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                  • Money99
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12695

                    #684
                    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                    Originally posted by Ents690
                    Anytime there is a voice of a dead person, I am going to assume it's the monster
                    Me too. Especially since it appears it can change shape to anyone (Echo's brother, Boone, Jack's dad, the Black Horse). For one episode I'd like to see it turn itself into Jessica Alba.

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                    • CS10029
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                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4616

                      #685
                      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                      Agreed.
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                      • Money99
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                        • Sep 2002
                        • 12695

                        #686
                        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                        Originally posted by rockchisler
                        This probably has been brought up already, But do the others have any children you dont see any???

                        I think it's been hinted at that the Others are impotent. Julliette is also a furtility doctor. This is why they steal children.

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                        • poster
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 7506

                          #687
                          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                          Originally posted by Longhorn

                          EDIT: The voice last night telling him to open the door sound a lot like Alex's, which is weird because Ben didn't know where she was so it's not like he made her help Jack in order to show him the Sawyer and Kate thing.
                          I thought the same thing. When he walked out, I was thinking where is she?

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #688
                            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                            Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                            Hmm, Jack needs off the island... sure, ship him back to the other island.
                            I thought the same exact thing. Ben tells Jack he'll send him home, off this island. Home right now for Jack is the original island. Could be a good use of semantics here.

                            Originally posted by Xavier12
                            Question:

                            One of the others said something along the lines that "Shepard wasn't even on Jacob's list". Whose Jacob? Are they talking about the list that was given to Michael in exchange for Walt? An earlier list? I totally missed that part.
                            Jacob has never been mentioned before. No one knows who he is at this point.

                            Originally posted by asianflow
                            Considering this was the final episode of the fall season, the last 2 minutes were extremely poor.

                            So Jack gives Kate and Sawyer a 1hr head start to get off the Island or else Jack will let Ben die. I can't believe the writers couldn't think of anything better.

                            They should have ended the final scene with Pickett pointing his gun at Sawyer and then the screen turns black.... and then a gunshot goes off.

                            The fans would be guessing all winter if Sawyer is dead. That would have been a 1000 times better.

                            But up to the final scene, it was a great episode.

                            I'll post the rest of my thoughts later.
                            The next weeks will show previews/clips of the final 16 episodes of season three. Sawyer will be in those clips. It would be a weak cliffhanger to assume something that would be proven against because of previews.

                            As for the writers not thinking of something better...what else could they do? Jack obviously knows very little about the island he is on. He thinks he has the upper hand but we know he doesn't because Kate can't go far. Sawyer's life is still in danger because Danny still has him at gunpoint, so that isn't even over.

                            I mean, it's the end of episode 6, not the end of season three. People got worked up about an episode having a huge cliffhanger. Even the writers themselves said it wouldn't be anything major.

                            Originally posted by rubisco43
                            For those of you who don't remember Jack's story from S1, let's refresh you.

                            He tells Kate about his first spinal surgery. He was operating on a 16 year old girl. Everything was going fine. He was closing her up, and sliced (on accident) the bottom of her spine where all the nerves come together. He tells Kate how he let fear in himself, for just 5 seconds. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. And then went back to work. She ended up being fine.

                            Now, how does this pertain to Ben's spinal surgery and the current situation?
                            Jack will have a flashback about his tattoo (which has a 5 on it - in real life it refers to his Party of Five days) that may or may not answer this question.

                            Originally posted by rockchisler
                            This probably has been brought up already, But do the others have any children you dont see any???
                            None have appeared. Spoiler below about this question.


                            *****SPOILER*****


                            There will be an episode that tells us what happened to the children that were abducted by the Others. This could answer the question about Juliet being a fertility doctor (though, obviously fertility doctors don't really deal with children out of the womb) and why the Others want children.


                            ***END SPOILER***
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                            • VanCitySportsGuy
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 9351

                              #689
                              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                              - I believe Eko's message on the Jesus Stick will tell Locke where the other Island is.

                              - I wonder who is Jacob? It seems he's the real leader of the Others and not Ben. I wouldn't be surprised if he's the eye patch guy.

                              - I would rank the first 6 episodes of Season 3 in this order:

                              1) Further Instructions
                              2) A Tale Of Two Cities
                              3) The Cost Of Living
                              4) I Do
                              5) Every Man For Himself
                              6) The Glass Ballerina

                              - The producers should have did a better job of having a bigger cliffhanger. They knew before Season 3 began filming that there would be a 13 week break after 6 episodes. ABC even stated this was the fall season finale.

                              - Claire/Charlie/Hurley had very little screentime during the first 6 episodes.

                              - Looking ahead there are still a lot questions that need to be answered:

                              Who is Jacob?
                              How does the final scene of Season 2 connect to the Lost Universe?
                              Are Michael and Walt really off the Island?
                              What happened to Cindy and the 2 kids?
                              Are we going to find out more about Desmond's power to see the future?
                              How did Locke end up in a wheelchair?
                              Will there be any Nikki and Paolo flashbacks?

                              - If you want a good teaser for the rest of the season read this:

                              You guys have been quoted as saying you're going to drop a "bomb" during the second half of the season.

                              Damon: There are two bombs being dropped, one of which is a character bomb, and that will happen within the first three episodes after the break. And the other is a more significant story bomb, a game-changer, as it were, and that will happen shortly after.

                              I wouldn't be surprised if we find out there is a 3rd group on the Island. I feel like we will eventually be viewing the Others as the good guys (just like what Ben said last season).

                              This is purely a guess out of left field, but I'm going to say 2 of the main characters are related to each other.

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                              • Skerik
                                Living in this tube
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 5215

                                #690
                                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                                I still can't believe they resorted to such a cheap gimmick during last night's episode when Locke noticed the writing on Ecko's stick....

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