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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #1036
    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

    Although I agree with most of you that the show is just a convuluted mess and they are starting to have "filler" shows, I also know I still intensely look forward to it each week. Perhaps it's a victim of it's own success in that regards, each week all of us are really eager to see what the show can deliver and it never does deliver much in the way of answers.

    Will I keep watching? Well I watched the X-files till the end, regretting it the entire time as a complete waste of an hour a week, each week thinking it would redeem itself. I imagine I will do that for this show as well, unless of course another more interesting show comes along....this show is definitely vulnerable right now..
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    • USF11
      C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
      • Jun 2003
      • 4245

      #1037
      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

      The thing that hurt the show so much was the "outting" of the others. That was kind of the payoff. I love the show, but I could see where people where let down by that plot twist.
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      • jdros13
        MVP
        • Oct 2004
        • 1255

        #1038
        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

        Originally posted by Money99
        And I think ABC's insistance on getting to 5 seasons or more than 100 episodes has really hurt this show.
        Actually it is the producers (creators) who need the show to get to 100 episodes. The producers of a TV show don't make the big money until the show goes to syndication, and you typically need 100 shows to make that happen on a large scale.

        Originally posted by Museum of Broadcast Communications
        By contractual arrangement episodes usually return to the control of the producer after two network showings. They may then be licensed for presentations by other television distributors. This strategy is financially viable only after several years of a successful network run, when enough episodes of a television program are accumulated to make the series valuable to other programmers. It does lead to the possibility, however, that reruns of a program can be in syndication forever and almost anywhere. A common industry anecdote claims--and it may be true--that I Love Lucy is playing somewhere in the world at any given moment of the day.

        Link to Entire Article on Museum of Broadcast Communications Website


        I think it is safe to say that virtually every producer of a network TV show hopes to have a long enough run to put their show into syndication. A great example of this thinking is the original show "Law and Order". Perhaps you have noticed it, but Law & Order is actually 2 shows that each last for 30 minutes. This was done intentionally by the producer (D i c k Wolfe) so that he would have the ability to market it in syndication as a one hour show or 2 half hour shows.

        Originally posted by NY Times in 1992
        If you added the establishing shots, the personal lives and all the rest, Mr. Wolf says, "each half-hour would be an hour. The way it is, each half-hour has enough story content in it for an hour cop show or an hour lawyer show."

        Of course, this condensation is not entirely for the benefit of the viewers. After five seasons, Mr. Wolf says, he'll be able to sell the episodes for syndication in both hour and half-hour formats, an attempt to get around the difficulty hourlong dramas face in the syndication market. "The second half-hour is slightly shorter than the first," Mr. Wolf says. "So you can run the cops one night, and the next night the lawyers, with a synopsis. You know: Last night on 'Law and Order. . . .' "
        Link to full NY Times article on Wolfe from 1992

        So, if you want to blame anything (or anyone) it should be the producers (or syndication in general) for the need to make a show 5 years long. I'm sure that ABC also wants to keep one of it's top rated shows on the air as well to sell advertising dollars during the first run showings, so they certainly aren't complaining. As you know, everything tends to come back to the almighty dollar.
        Last edited by jdros13; 02-24-2007, 09:28 AM. Reason: The censoring on the website *rd out Mr. Wolfe's name
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        • Havok410
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 1441

          #1039
          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

          The episode was decent.....disappointing (thanks to ABC for hyping it up) but still entertaining. The Jack flashback was pretty lame though.

          Next week looks really good but of course i'll probably be disappointed because ABC loves to over hype every episode.

          I miss watching this show on DVD only ....i was never disappointed.
          Last edited by Havok410; 02-24-2007, 09:36 PM.

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          • rubisco43
            All Star
            • Feb 2003
            • 4372

            #1040
            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

            Tonight's episode

            Hurley's discovery of an old, wrecked car on the island leads him on a mission of hope not only for himself, but for a fellow survivor in need of some faith. Meanwhile, Kate and Sawyer reunite with their fellow castaways, but Kate is still torn about leaving Jack behind with "The Others."

            of note, Sung Hi Lee is on tonight's episode!
            http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805002

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            • Fresh Tendrils
              Strike Hard and Fade Away
              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #1041
              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

              A car?



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              • RockinDaMike
                All Star
                • Feb 2003
                • 9092

                #1042
                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                Sung Hi Lee....damn! But yeah, sounds weird for a car to be on the island, but whats not weird about the show anyway.
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                • rubisco43
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4372

                  #1043
                  Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  A car?
                  A polar bear?
                  A horse?
                  A hatch that controls the fate of our existence?
                  A hatch that controls the fate of our existence... and has a fail switch?

                  Dude, the island is all screwy.
                  http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805002

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #1044
                    Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                    Originally posted by rubisco43
                    A polar bear?
                    A horse?
                    A hatch that controls the fate of our existence?
                    A hatch that controls the fate of our existence... and has a fail switch?

                    Dude, the island is all screwy.
                    Yeah, I know, but it just seems like they're adding to the pile of questions.



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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #1045
                      Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                      I'd hit it.
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                      • devilsjaw
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3572

                        #1046
                        Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                        Originally posted by rubisco43
                        A polar bear?
                        A horse?
                        A hatch that controls the fate of our existence?
                        A hatch that controls the fate of our existence... and has a fail switch?

                        Dude, the island is all screwy.
                        You forgot the airplane and the pirate ship.

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                        • aukevin
                          War Eagle, Go Braves!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 14700

                          #1047
                          Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                          Originally posted by devilsjaw
                          You forgot the airplane and the pirate ship.
                          and the statue of the man with four toes.

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                          • rubisco43
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4372

                            #1048
                            Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                            Originally posted by devilsjaw
                            You forgot the airplane and the pirate ship.
                            the list is too long
                            http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=805002

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #1049
                              Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                              About damn time we're given something! Great revelation!
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                              • CMH
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #1050
                                Re: ***LOST Official Season 3 Discussion**** (Contains West Coast spoilers)

                                This was a very good episode. Had a first season feel to it. It might have been because we haven't had too much of Hurley in a long time or ever. Amazing that we still hadn't even seen his flashback of going to Australia until tonight.

                                I know a lot of people didn't like Hurley in the first season, but I think he's grown to be a very likeable character.

                                Pared, which revelation are you referring to?
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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